Gomes or Cudicini?

[WexfordTownSpur]

Question is, will he go right back in as number 1 - If Cudicini is doing well Harry is likely to leave him in!

Think Cudicini is doing okay - I mean do you think Gomes would have stopped that shot from Cole yesterday?

 

[phil]

Question is, will he go right back in as number 1 - If Cudicini is doing well Harry is likely to leave him in!

Think Cudicini is doing okay - I mean do you think Gomes would have stopped that shot from Cole yesterday?

Would Cudicini have given away the penalty against Liverpool? Let us remember, as well, that some referees would have sent Gomes off for that challenge. Yesterday, Cudicini did well not to charge into Cole when he was through one on one. I could see Gomes giving away a penalty in a similar situation.

Both keepers have their strengths and weaknesses. I'm not really bothered which one Harry selects.

 

[littlemandefoe]

Question is, will he go right back in as number 1 - If Cudicini is doing well Harry is likely to leave him in!

Think Cudicini is doing okay - I mean do you think Gomes would have stopped that shot from Cole yesterday?

Would be interesting. Gomes is a much bigger, agile keeper. It actually would of been interesting to see. I think Cole's goal was fantastic so I reckon it probably would of gone in, with either keeper in the net. I just think Gomes probably would of had better attributes if it was on paper. If that makes sense?!

 

[piedpiper]

the funny thing is when Cudicini was in goal i felt more relaxed. so i won't miss Gomes......unless Carlo gets injured. I prefer Cudicini to Gomes everyday. Gomes makes me nervous, i wonder what his defenders feel like???

 

[dirtydave]

Would Cudicini have given away the penalty against Liverpool? Let us remember, as well, that some referees would have sent Gomes off for that challenge. Yesterday, Cudicini did well not to charge into Cole when he was through one on one. I could see Gomes giving away a penalty in a similar situation.

Both keepers have their strengths and weaknesses. I'm not really bothered which one Harry selects.

I wish he had!

 

[al_pacino]

Because playing with 10 men would've really helped us get the points.

 

[Shanks]

I can't imagine any ref sending Gomes off for that challenge.

The ball was going away from goal, no threat and no last man.

 

[Chris12345]

I wish he had!

Eek

 

[dirtydave]

He wouldn't have got injured next game...

 

[$hoguN]

didnt a ref send kasey keller off when he did that to henry? or is my memory a bit shotty

 

[ChRiStOpHe]

He wouldn't have got injured next game...

I thought that was what you meant

didnt a ref send kasey keller off when he did that to henry? or is my memory a bit shotty

Nah, he got a yellow.

 

[mackay59]

Definitely Cuddles for me.I prefer his composed conventional style - Gomes is scary.I feel sure the players are far more comfortable with Cuddles too. They know what they are getting compared to the scary Brazilian.

 

[Mr-T]

F'kin hell, are people smoking crack or something?

Gomes every time, no contest.

 

[Kendall]

Instinctively, Gomes is the more superior keeper. Though when he has a decision to make, he is often terrible and prone to making the wrong one.

Cudicini is not flash, but he won't make too many gaffes as a result.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Cudicini is a great keeper to have as back up but is not as good as Gomes. Cudicini could take some blame for both the goals he's let in so far.

Everyone grumbles that Gomes comes and deals with balls into the box and gets the odd one not quite right, but against Hull you can see the consequencies of inaction; the ball ends up in the back of your net. I'm also positive Gomes would have saved Cole's shot.

I think the overlying point is though, that goalies will always make mistakes, like every player on the pitch. When they are making pro-active mistakes like Czech, James or Gomes it catches the eye more readily than the type of inactive mistakes that keepers like Robinson make several times a game, by dithering around on their line, even though the pro-active keepers might make just one every 9/10 games that costs.

You have to try and see through the obvious and weigh up what is actually costing/gaining your team more; A keeper that hides from crosses and responsibility or one that is very pro-active.

I have come to realise that the latter, as long as they have other attributes, of which Gomes does, are far more valuable to your defence.

If you actually compare our defensive record with Gomes compared to Robinson you can see we have made an absoloutely quantum leap. His shot stopping is in the top 2 in the EPL IMO, he's great at 1v1, and when defenders know that a keeper is coming to take anything in his domain it removes the kind of indicision that always exixts with keepers like Robinson.

I know sometimes we groan when something that looks catchable is punched but the balls are so light now that keepes are being trained to punch rather than risk a spillage. Just watch Czech or VDS at ManU.

Critics of Gomes completely ignore the fact that these two keepers frequently also make the odd high profile blunder and often punch when a catch looks do-able.


For me, Gomes belongs to that minority of uber keeprs that not only have great basic goalkeeping skills (agility, shot stopping, 1v1, positioning, timing, physique) but also takes responsibility from defenders shoulders.
Czech, James, Gomes, VDS are all of this nature.

Cudicini is a very good example of a keeper of the other kind (by that I mean he is probably one of the best of the "inactive" kind of keeper of Robinson is one of the worst). Cudicini has other good attributes (agility, shot stopping, 1v1) but is often reluctant to deal with crosses and when he does he doesn't always make a good job of it.

 

[mattyspurs]

I also feel that Gomes' distribution is better. He will roll it out or throw it which lets us build the attack on the ground through midfield better. I think that Cudicini is more prone to kicking it out, and with Keane and Defoe there is no one to hold the ball up, meaning we are going to loose possesion more. Very much like Robbo used to do.

 

[Marty]

Except for the fact that his name is actually Cech (but he is a Czech), B-C makes an excellent post that I am in total agreement with.

Although I think that if Gomes had saved Cole's shot it would've been the save of the century, remembered in legend like Banks's on Pele. The shot was just that good.

 

[Kendall]

I also feel that Gomes' distribution is better. He will roll it out or throw it which lets us build the attack on the ground through midfield better. I think that Cudicini is more prone to kicking it out, and with Keane and Defoe there is no one to hold the ball up, meaning we are going to loose possesion more. Very much like Robbo used to do.

One thing is Gomes' distribution is nowhere near as good as Robbo's

His kicking is pretty shit.

 

[mattyspurs]

One thing is Gomes' distribution is nowhere near as good as Robbo's

His kicking is pretty shit.

You are right, but I meant distribution as in throwing or rolling for the start of an attack, whereas I think Robbo and Cudicini look to kick the majority of the time, which I am not always in favour of.

 

[Kendall]

Robinson's sideways-on volley kick into Lennon's path was a thing of beauty.