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Harry Kane tells club he wants to leave this summer

Locotoro

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I would sell but not even for £150m. Kane is a proven goal-scorer and creative forward that gives you around 50 goal contributions every season that is in the peak of his ability. If he goes to a team like PSG, Man City, Real or Barca he's likely to get 40 goals and 20 assists a season.

Those numbers are peak Cristiano/Messi so selling for £150m when Coutinho, Ousmane Dembele and Joao Felix have all gone for more than 110m each is pittance in my view.

Kane is on par if not better than any striker playing today and is worth at least 200m
 

Tiberius Gracchus

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It's true that we don't know the player's perception. All we can do is try to piece things together the best we can.

It seems pretty clear that Kane wants to compete for and win major honours.

It also appears he was very much on board with Jose. Jose felt a number of our players are not of the right attitude. Kane is clearly very dedicated to football and surely wants to be surrounded by people with the same determination to win. I feel who we can sell is almost as important as our purchases this summer.

What it will take to convince Kane we can achieve at the top is anyone's guess. Sadly a big name manager and a high net spend is not going to achieve this.

I think we're in agreement buddy
 

JimmyG2

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Dec 7, 2006
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Love that boy.
Carried the team for too long
Goodbye and good luck
in whatever you want next.
But even with trophies
you won't be any more of a legend
than you are already.

Baby please don't go
away from Spurs
Baby please don't go

Won't you stay
just a little bit longer.......
 

PLTuck

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Aug 22, 2006
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Kane and Son to be sold on Aug 31st but we have a deal in place to loan Dwight Gayle and have £250m to pay down our debts. We win the spreadsheet title again.

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I don't believe he's going anywhere this summer unless someone ponies up £150m+
 

Freddie

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Our net spend over the last 2 seasons has been very high.

Reports seem to suggest that Kane was on board with Jose and saw him as our chance to compete for major honours. It didn;t work out at all so I can understand if Kane thinks now is the time to look into moving on.

But this lazy narrative about it being about us not spending has to stop. Over the last 2 seasons we have spent big, hired a big name manager and tried to move on another. This has all failed. The amount we spend really isn't the issue.

This 'we have spent a lot in the last 2 years actually' narrative is lazier. It came about because of years of neglecting to spend anything and it was a) essential, and b) because we had accumulated a lot of money. Look at the 5 year picture, or even 10 year picture. Our net-spend is less than Brighton, Fulham, Everton, Leicester, Newcastle, Wolves, West Ham...
 

dontcallme

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This 'we have spent a lot in the last 2 years actually' narrative is lazier. It came about because of years of neglecting to spend anything and it was a) essential, and b) because we had accumulated a lot of money. Look at the 5 year picture, or even 10 year picture. Our net-spend is less than Brighton, Fulham, Everton, Leicester, Newcastle, Wolves, West Ham...
We had one season of not spending so you're talking nonsense.

The 2 year period is a resonse to people saying "we need to start spending." I believe if a club has been spending for 2 years then they have already started spending, wouldn't you?
 

Serpico

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I totally agree with everything you've said here. Levy must keep Son. Also let's be honest here, we've reached 2 finals in the last 3 seasons, Kane's played in both and contributed nothing, so it's not like he's not had opportunities. His preference is to remain in the Premier League......only because none of the european big boys are interested. Chelsea or Man Utd.......not a big step up really, they're just as average as we are.

I can see him at City but I feel he will go to Utd which would be a better move for him as he will get more playing time.

How would Kane be seen by other clubs?
A street fighter? A target man? The speedy forward? A forward who will give you 20 + goals a season? He needs to play most matches which may not happen at City or Chelsea so the goal count will drop . Once the crowds are back the pace will be faster and then we see the injuries. I would cash in on him and move on. I know this is not popular but its how I feel. No one is bigger than the club.
 

Freddie

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We had one season of not spending so you're talking nonsense.

The 2 year period is a resonse to people saying "we need to start spending." I believe if a club has been spending for 2 years then they have already started spending, wouldn't you?

Well, no not really. When we've barely got a net spend over 10 years, appointing Jose and then spending 50 million net over a summer doesn't constitute "starting to spend". It's just not adequate at the levels we're aspiring to be at. We're spending at lower Premier League levels
 

dontcallme

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Well, no not really. When we've barely got a net spend over 10 years, appointing Jose and then spending 50 million net over a summer doesn't constitute "starting to spend". It's just not adequate at the levels we're aspiring to be at. We're spending at lower Premier League levels
So when somebody says "we need to start spending" and we have been spending over the last 2 seasons this doesn't count as us starting to spend due to previous spending?

Utter nonsense.
 

SPURSLIFE

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I would sell but not even for £150m. Kane is a proven goal-scorer and creative forward that gives you around 50 goal contributions every season that is in the peak of his ability. If he goes to a team like PSG, Man City, Real or Barca he's likely to get 40 goals and 20 assists a season.

Those numbers are peak Cristiano/Messi so selling for £150m when Coutinho, Ousmane Dembele and Joao Felix have all gone for more than 110m each is pittance in my view.

Kane is on par if not better than any striker playing today and is worth at least 200m
I agree with everything you say but I doubt there is anybody willing to pay 150/200mil for any player for the next couple of seasons.
 

Silver Spur

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I can see him at City but I feel he will go to Utd which would be a better move for him as he will get more playing time.

How would Kane be seen by other clubs?
A street fighter? A target man? The speedy forward? A forward who will give you 20 + goals a season? He needs to play most matches which may not happen at City or Chelsea so the goal count will drop . Once the crowds are back the pace will be faster and then we see the injuries. I would cash in on him and move on. I know this is not popular but its how I feel. No one is bigger than the club.
Personally, I think that the expectations of him at a new club would be massive and I'm sorry to say it but I don't think he'd deliver. He's great when everything is going well but you never see him influencing games when things aren't so rosy. Sadly, I think you're right, let's get the money for him, get a really good manager and go again.
 
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PLTuck

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Aug 22, 2006
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A key part of this is (from BBC)

Sources have told BBC Sport that the England captain, who has a contract until 2024, has not handed in an official transfer request or directly communicated a wish to move.

In other words, it's speculation and rumour mongering combined with his agent probably making some noises. The fact remains he is under contract and isn't so desperate to get out that he is submitting an official request, or even banging on Levy's door.
 

wizgell

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Aug 11, 2004
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To be perfectly honest, and it may well be fueled by my complete disillusionment with our club and the game in general, but I am sick to the back teeth of players demanding/requesting/desiring transfers purely on the basis that they as an individual deserve to win trophies.

Back in the day, players used to leave us in search of Champions League football, we get CL football and it's now they want to leave for trophies. Football is a team game, yes we are a mess upstairs at the moment, yes we are a mess on the pitch and yes Kane is the best striker in the world but if he wants to down tools and leave because he as an individual deserves to win more than our club does then name our price and let him go. He has always come across as a decent bloke but clearly he is no better than the rest of them on that front pushed by his brother who clearly loves the fancy suits and privileges being Harry's sibling has given him.

Player's give us the 'oh it's a dream to play for my boyhood club' etc etc but it's all nonsense, because let's be frank if this was any of us- actual fans- we would give our right arm to play for our boyhood club regardless of what honours we picked up along the way.

He's a legend, but leaving for his own personal gain and benefit just makes him yet another footballer for me, and that's a real shame because I believed he was different.
 

Freddie

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So when somebody says "we need to start spending" and we have been spending over the last 2 seasons this doesn't count as us starting to spend due to previous spending?

Utter nonsense.
Yeah, ok if we sign one 10 million squad player this summer then don't complain that we haven't spent. Or a tenner on a loan signing. It's not relative at all, is it?

And also, you wrongly asserted that the person you replied to said we need to start spending. They didn't. They said Kane may want us to spend 150 million this summer. Made no reference to previous windows. So the 'utter nonsense' you're so fond of labeling things as might be in your straw man argument
 
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OnTheUp

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May 8, 2006
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Levy needs to send a strong message....Harry, you can go abroad, stay and try to win things with us or sulk in the reserves.

The club owes Harry nothing and needs to protect its own interests. Selling to a rival is game over for next season.
 

Silver Spur

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May 18, 2021
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To be perfectly honest, and it may well be fueled by my complete disillusionment with our club and the game in general, but I am sick to the back teeth of players demanding/requesting/desiring transfers purely on the basis that they as an individual deserve to win trophies.

Back in the day, players used to leave us in search of Champions League football, we get CL football and it's now they want to leave for trophies. Football is a team game, yes we are a mess upstairs at the moment, yes we are a mess on the pitch and yes Kane is the best striker in the world but if he wants to down tools and leave because he as an individual deserves to win more than our club does then name our price and let him go. He has always come across as a decent bloke but clearly he is no better than the rest of them on that front pushed by his brother who clearly loves the fancy suits and privileges being Harry's sibling has given him.

Player's give us the 'oh it's a dream to play for my boyhood club' etc etc but it's all nonsense, because let's be frank if this was any of us- actual fans- we would give our right arm to play for our boyhood club regardless of what honours we picked up along the way.

He's a legend, but leaving for his own personal gain and benefit just makes him yet another footballer for me, and that's a real shame because I believed he was different.
So true!! Be interesting to see the reaction he gets from the fans at the next home game.
 

dontcallme

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Yeah, ok if we sign one 10 million squad player this summer then don't complain that we haven't spent. Or a tenner on a loan signing. It's not relative at all, is it?
This season our net spend was around £80m and last season around the same. So why you're talking about spending a tenner is anyone's guess.

My guess is you're massively scraping the barrel in order to criticise ENIC but fuck knows why you're posting such drivel.
 

PLTuck

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Aug 22, 2006
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People saying he deserves to leave, I don't get it.

We have developed him and invested in him since he was 8 years old. Does that not mean we deserve for him to honour his contract, which he signed willingly?

I still think this is the agent trying to put pressure on the club. I can't see H downing tools, I can't see him refusing to train, and I can't see him ever handing in an official request. It would taint his legend status forever.

Even Darren Bent said it was hard for him to "get out". Our family jewels are going nowhere unless it's on our terms.
 

wizgell

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Aug 11, 2004
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So true!! Be interesting to see the reaction he gets from the fans at the next home game.
Understandably, he won't get any stick and I don't think he deserves stick.

I just think if he wants out, then let him go.

Ultimately each and every player has a portion of blame for our failings over the last few years on the pitch, sure it's not as big for some as others and it's not as big for most as it is for those upstairs. But I'm not one who believes that when a group fails, individuals can elevate themselves above the group to avoid criticism.

Son and Kane I am betting will be at the head of the queue when it comes to wanting out to protect reputation, but whilst they have been brilliant generally, they too have dropped off and disappeared at times when we needed them.
 
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