Remind me, how many trophies did we win?
Harry Kane tells club he wants to leave this summer
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Remind me, how many trophies did we win?
Gassin's finest
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I think you've answered your own question there.
mumfordspur
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No rival could afford him
mumfordspur
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This is a great thread now. Posters going ballistic.
Have Freddie & dontcallmesmug finished their bickering yet?
Have Freddie & dontcallmesmug finished their bickering yet?
Ionman34
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Early days I know,but the thing that concerns me is that no one, not Kane,his Agent, the club,Mason et al have come out to say that the report is not true. Until that happens, I'm afraid that we have to accept that it's highly likely that it's true.
It's classic first steps towards getting the ball rolling on getting his move, rumours that he wants to leave to get the bidding war underway/test the waters, see what the offers are etc.
We can state that he's said nothing officially, but the silence with respect to denial of the request, I think, tells us all we need to know.
For my money, the ONLY thing that will prevent the move is whether a club is prepared to stump up the money Levy will demand and, let's face it, what he will ask for is what we would expect the best striker in the World should go for, whether we have a pandemic or not.
I'm resigned to him going, so if he does, for the money we expect, then I'd wax the lot on Haaland. Forget the sell one buy 3/4 players, replace a World class striker with a player who WILL be World class, if he isn't already. If no one else can afford Kane's value than either City or Chelsea, then one or the other should be the only competition we have for Haaland's signature. That potentially gives us a few years to build the squad around him to challenge, because we aren't doing that in the next couple of years.
One thing is for certain, BSoDL I may be, but if the club have to sell and fuck up the rebuild following that, I too will be calling for Levy's head. This is absolute last chance saloon for him.
It's classic first steps towards getting the ball rolling on getting his move, rumours that he wants to leave to get the bidding war underway/test the waters, see what the offers are etc.
We can state that he's said nothing officially, but the silence with respect to denial of the request, I think, tells us all we need to know.
For my money, the ONLY thing that will prevent the move is whether a club is prepared to stump up the money Levy will demand and, let's face it, what he will ask for is what we would expect the best striker in the World should go for, whether we have a pandemic or not.
I'm resigned to him going, so if he does, for the money we expect, then I'd wax the lot on Haaland. Forget the sell one buy 3/4 players, replace a World class striker with a player who WILL be World class, if he isn't already. If no one else can afford Kane's value than either City or Chelsea, then one or the other should be the only competition we have for Haaland's signature. That potentially gives us a few years to build the squad around him to challenge, because we aren't doing that in the next couple of years.
One thing is for certain, BSoDL I may be, but if the club have to sell and fuck up the rebuild following that, I too will be calling for Levy's head. This is absolute last chance saloon for him.
Sum Monsterism
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it could always be that Kane's management team (not the club management) figure that if they denied every time it was written that he was off they'd have to employ more staff.
On Levy, unfortunately, he gives zero f*cks what saloon he's in with the fans. Zero.
Not what you said though is it? You're changing your tune cos the narrative doesn't stick.
spursbhoy67
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There is a lot at play here.
The Kane rumours are coming from journalists and pundits with connections to specific clubs. It is how the greatest manager in the league used to do it. It still goes on. Plausible deniability too.
Get players to work the dressing room when on international duty. Has been happening since my playing days and my dad's before me.
Could also be coming from Kane's agent. He knows the emotional pull the club has on him. Easier to get this out now when no manager is in place. A new manager could demand Kane not be sold for another year at minimum.
Could also be coming from the club. Better to have a bidding war than to have only one serious buyer. Levy holds all the cards here and not beyond him to do what is right for the club. Despite all the criticism labeled at him I do think he tries to get the best for THFC.
Young players in the modern game are all about the money. Later in their careers it becomes about the medals won. I have said here before that friends of mine don't show me their Rolexes or Bentleys they show me their winners medals. I am not impressed by the former and I am envious of the latter. Kane is getting to the stage of his career where he has to look at Jamie Vardy and be just a little bit envious.
I have long written here that to be a successful club Tottenham must win things. We have thrown away opportunities to win League Cups, FA Cups, Europas and had 2-3 chances to win the league or the Champions League. The winning mentality does not permeate the club. It is a great club to play for, to work for and one of the highest paying in the world, but there is no real pressure or expectation to win.
The expectation to win, to be successful needs to change at Tottenham. If not, players like Sheringham, Modric, Keane, Campbell, Berbatov, Bale and Kane will give great service to the club, but their peak years will be at United, Real, Arsenal, Liverpool, etc.
The pressure to win is not really there. It is why players like Dier, Sissoko, Winks and a few others enjoy playing for the club. They get paid really well, are not in relegation trouble, play in Europe, but don't have to deal with the constant grind and expectation of Chelsea, City, United.
It pains me to write most of the above, but I have been lucky to work in the game and got to experience clubs like City and the change in mentality and expectation. Any new manager coming in needs to have a clear philosophy and needs to move out players who won't help him win.
We are a big club. We need to act like it where it matters most - on the pitch. And by winning trophies. Any trophy!
The Kane rumours are coming from journalists and pundits with connections to specific clubs. It is how the greatest manager in the league used to do it. It still goes on. Plausible deniability too.
Get players to work the dressing room when on international duty. Has been happening since my playing days and my dad's before me.
Could also be coming from Kane's agent. He knows the emotional pull the club has on him. Easier to get this out now when no manager is in place. A new manager could demand Kane not be sold for another year at minimum.
Could also be coming from the club. Better to have a bidding war than to have only one serious buyer. Levy holds all the cards here and not beyond him to do what is right for the club. Despite all the criticism labeled at him I do think he tries to get the best for THFC.
Young players in the modern game are all about the money. Later in their careers it becomes about the medals won. I have said here before that friends of mine don't show me their Rolexes or Bentleys they show me their winners medals. I am not impressed by the former and I am envious of the latter. Kane is getting to the stage of his career where he has to look at Jamie Vardy and be just a little bit envious.
I have long written here that to be a successful club Tottenham must win things. We have thrown away opportunities to win League Cups, FA Cups, Europas and had 2-3 chances to win the league or the Champions League. The winning mentality does not permeate the club. It is a great club to play for, to work for and one of the highest paying in the world, but there is no real pressure or expectation to win.
The expectation to win, to be successful needs to change at Tottenham. If not, players like Sheringham, Modric, Keane, Campbell, Berbatov, Bale and Kane will give great service to the club, but their peak years will be at United, Real, Arsenal, Liverpool, etc.
The pressure to win is not really there. It is why players like Dier, Sissoko, Winks and a few others enjoy playing for the club. They get paid really well, are not in relegation trouble, play in Europe, but don't have to deal with the constant grind and expectation of Chelsea, City, United.
It pains me to write most of the above, but I have been lucky to work in the game and got to experience clubs like City and the change in mentality and expectation. Any new manager coming in needs to have a clear philosophy and needs to move out players who won't help him win.
We are a big club. We need to act like it where it matters most - on the pitch. And by winning trophies. Any trophy!
CrazyHeart
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money money money!
MassadaTom
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Chelsea Mcity and MU will always be stronger than us in players department couse MONEY. (not counting off year for rebuild)
Kane or no Kane
We can beat them by having better Team and better tactics.
jolsnogross
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It's interesting that there's so much gnashing of teeth about this. I don't really know why anyone would doubt that he wants to leave. This seemed inevitable to me as soon as Mourinho was brought on - that was the last throw of the dice with respect to Kane and once it started to fall asunder I assumed he'd be implementing an exit strategy. I suspect it'll have a knock-on effect to Sonny too. That's a real shame for us.
Ultimately, if you move wildly between footballing approaches, as we did with Poch to Mourinho, you have to have an incredible amount of luck to make that look coherent. It wasn't coherent, and we're dropping well off the pace for top four even if the points difference doesn't look so unbridgeable.
The key fact in all of this is Levy (and many fans) don't have the resolve to stick with an approach that's working when that approach is going through a rough period. The pattern is there by ditching Jol, Redknapp, and Poch when we really didn't need too. These managers achieved consistently high levels with us, and then Levy or someone in his ear suggests it could/should be even better and they blow it up. Completely failing to recognise that the manager getting the performances and results is the key to that success. We all know Levy decided to ignore Poch's advice that the cycle was over after the CL final and needed to evolve the team. Levy's judgement is why we are here now with Kane.
And everyone knows Kane has a time-limited playing career ahead of him and that the window for him to compete for big honours with us has closed. He did get a crack at it with us, but we've fallen off that pace now.
Shame for us, good luck to him.
Ultimately, if you move wildly between footballing approaches, as we did with Poch to Mourinho, you have to have an incredible amount of luck to make that look coherent. It wasn't coherent, and we're dropping well off the pace for top four even if the points difference doesn't look so unbridgeable.
The key fact in all of this is Levy (and many fans) don't have the resolve to stick with an approach that's working when that approach is going through a rough period. The pattern is there by ditching Jol, Redknapp, and Poch when we really didn't need too. These managers achieved consistently high levels with us, and then Levy or someone in his ear suggests it could/should be even better and they blow it up. Completely failing to recognise that the manager getting the performances and results is the key to that success. We all know Levy decided to ignore Poch's advice that the cycle was over after the CL final and needed to evolve the team. Levy's judgement is why we are here now with Kane.
And everyone knows Kane has a time-limited playing career ahead of him and that the window for him to compete for big honours with us has closed. He did get a crack at it with us, but we've fallen off that pace now.
Shame for us, good luck to him.
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Dontcallmesmug LOL Smug great word Football pundits middle name
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But that's a debate for another thread.....
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It's certainly possible that whoever is coming in has already discussed Kane and other players with DL.
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But that's a debate for another thread.....
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You'd make great ITK. You've got the name for it.
spursbhoy67
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I know the prevailing thought is that Levy and Spurs wasted the Bale money, but I don't remember too many complaints at the time.
I just took a quick look at some of the big money transfers that summer - Ozil, Fellaini, Shelvey, Tevez, Carroll. Ozil might have fit the old Spurs, like Ginola, while Tevez was not staying in England. Would any of those players have been better received than the ones we signed?
The two that standout from that summer is Wanyama and Fernandinho. Those two with Eriksen rather than the seven we signed might have really improved us.
Of course it is all hindsight.
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What if Chelsea match Levy's valuation for Harry Kane? Does he sell? Or does he sell to City or United for far less?
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