Harry Kane

[chelmyid]

I don’t

Us attracting a good striker is a different story if they aren't competing with Kane. I think many would jump at the chance given our profile, location, facilities, squad etc

Us attracting a good striker is a different story if they aren't competing with Kane. I think many would jump at the chance given our profile, location, facilities, squad etc.

I don’t necessarily disagree - but would be pay for one is a different question (especially with no income from a sale)

i personally think you don’t look to replace Kane either - purely because you can’t. What we need to do is replace his contribution. Anges’ system will do this in part, as will Maddison etc

but if all of his happens next season no matter what - then let’s crack on now and get some funds in to help with the transition

 

[RuskyM]

Vlahovic'd be a miserable replacement imo. We're losing one of the most elegant playmakers I've seen to replace him with a big **** up top?

 

[Styopa]

Agreed.

I was however referring to the story that he'd be acting on the instructions of Joe Lewis rather than his own initiative. And given that his plan appeared to be to keep HK beyond the end of the window and use the extra time to negotiate a new deal (regardless of how unrealistic anyone else may view its prospects), would be a major volte-face not brought about by anything other than "orders from above".

This is why I say that if those reports are correct, and he's being forced by edict to go against his own preference, judgement and risk-assessment, it will have wider repercussions.

I agree; if those stories are correct, they directly undermine Levy's authority.

I do wonder why Lewis's alleged interest in this is suddenly being invoked by journalists. It seems like an unnecessary detail to the main story for them- which is the club telling Kane to sign or leave.

 

[nico97531]

Yeah, I don't see why Man U being interested would justify Levy selling to Bayern for a discounted fee. He doesn't have to accept Man U's offer. It would make him look very weak to claim he had no choice but to sell to Bayern now Man U are in the mix.

But I don't think telling Kane to either sign a contract or leave would make Levy look weak. On the contrary, it could make Levy appear strong because he's taking a hardline- you commit or get out, we won't let you run down your contract.

It doesn’t matter if Levy takes a hardline or not as Kane don’t have to sign a contract nor agree to any sale, he can and probably should just run his contract down. There’s not a lot Levy can do.

 

[glacierSpurs]

Vlahovic'd be a miserable replacement imo. We're losing one of the most elegant playmakers I've seen to replace him with a big **** up top?

Curiously like to know why? Before going to Juve, he was phenomenal at Fiorentina and the majority of the fans would love for him to come, more so than Richy.

 

[C1w8]

I honestly think it's a win-win situation for Kane now. He probably doesn't have the appetite for another rebuild season at Spurs, and I agree with all the points both of you have made above. However, he must also be aware that the rewards at the end of the season are potentially even greater if he stays at Spurs. A greater choice of clubs, a greater signing-on fee, an opportunity to stay in the Premier League and England. If leaving now is Kane's plan A and moving on a free is his fallback plan, it's one hell of a fallback plan to have.

I'ts risk-reward, the reward is higher, but so is the risk. I'm also in the camp that feels he will be aware of the risk, and so we wont get kane at full throttle for the whole season, even if subconsciously. Another reason why it'd be better to cut ties now.

Its a win for Kane now, but it's been an L for him for the last two seasons as he's been forced to stay here and spend another two years of a short career playing games that in the context of his talent have meant very little, spurs record aside. For Kane he's been waiting a long while for this, he may just rather not have to wait another full season.

 

[Timberwolf]

If you were undecided about whether it'd be good to sell him now or not, this is a good piece imo

I did think that a big part of what made us so much better in the 2nd half vs West Ham was having Richarlison playing on the shoulder to pin back their CBs and make runs behind. And this in turn created space in the middle which is partly why Lo Celso looked so great and we were able to utter dominate West Ham for the entire 45.

While I'm sure Ange and Kane would come up with a solution that would work for the team if he stayed, and there's no doubt he'd score a ton of goals, I do think that with Kane as a 9 we'll have to compromise some of what makes Ange's style so successful to accommodate him.

Sounds ridiculous having to 'accommodate' one of the world's best players, but the West Ham game suggest there will be an element of that and it's making me lean slightly more towards cashing in and making a clean stylistic break under Ange. Especially since the odds of him re-signing in a year are so low.

 

[Styopa]

It doesn’t matter if Levy takes a hardline or not as Kane don’t have to sign a contract nor agree to any sale, he can and probably should just run his contract down. There’s not a lot Levy can do.

Oh yeah, I agree. It's all in Kane's power ultimately. But Levy has to be seen to act one way or another. He can't just sit on his hands.

 

[chelmyid]

It doesn’t matter if Levy takes a hardline or not as Kane don’t have to sign a contract nor agree to any sale, he can and probably should just run his contract down. There’s not a lot Levy can do.

Agree with this - but personally don’t think Kane is that personality. I don’t see him wanting to be another Campbell for instance. I think he’d much rather take the Bale route and potentially return than be hated and ruin everything

 

[Yiddo1982]

Vlahovic, Gonçalo Ramos or Lautaro would be the ideals for me especially in this new system. Probably not particularly realistic tho.

Yeah, it would be unrealistic for us to be that efficient and acquire a player of that standing - unless we were in the CL.

It's a shame, as if Chelsea were in this position, they'd take their top pick.

 

[RuskyM]

Curiously like to know why? Before going to Juve, he was phenomenal at Fiorentina and the majority of the fans would love for him to come, more so than Richy.

Just strikes me as a time-bomb personally (rumours of affairs with teammates wives and concerning political ties) and on the pitch I think he's probably best as a long-ball lump, which I was hoping we'd move past. I don't know the guy so maybe I'm wrong but I'd be proper deflated.

 

[Styopa]

Agree with this - but personally don’t think Kane is that personality. I don’t see him wanting to be another Campbell for instance. I think he’d much rather take the Bale route and potentially return than be hated and ruin everything

Will Kane be hated if he walks on a free though? It seems like a lot of fans here would prefer he stays and leaves on a free than leave now for Bayern. I just don't see it being the same situation as Campbell, provided Kane doesn't move to another London club.

 

[Hertsspur10]

Vlahovic'd be a miserable replacement imo. We're losing one of the most elegant playmakers I've seen to replace him with a big **** up top?

I'm taking the view that whilst kane is currently our number 9+10 in that role he plays (incredibly), with Ange's system change Maddison + a more conventional line leading #9 will be the approach to replace him. As I think we'll all agree he's impossible to replace directly.

 

[N'Obody]

May have to start considering life without Kane now. If there was someone I would like to take a chance on to come in and suit the new system, it would be Kolo Muani.

 

[Kirito]

He would be stupid to run his contract down at his age instead of securing his future with a multi million €/£ contract. A lot can happen in a year including a career ending injury or financial rules changing meaning he cant get as much (as an example)

I know his agent doesn’t seem too clever but he’ll still understand you cant chance having no contract these days.

 

[BENNO]

I did think that a big part of what made us so much better in the 2nd half vs West Ham was having Richarlison playing on the shoulder to pin back their CBs and make runs behind. And this in turn created space in the middle which is partly why Lo Celso looked so great and we were able to utter dominate West Ham for the entire 45.

While I'm sure Ange and Kane would come up with a solution that would work for the team if he stayed, and there's no doubt he'd score a ton of goals, I do think that with Kane as a 9 we'll have to compromise some of what makes Ange's style so successful to accommodate him.

Sounds ridiculous having to 'accommodate' one of the world's best players, but the West Ham game suggest there will be an element of that and it's making me lean slightly more towards cashing in and making a clean stylistic break under Ange. Especially since the odds of him re-signing in a year are so low.

Completely agree with all of that. I'd not be adverse to Ange compromising and me getting to see another season of Harry Kane playing for my club, but i'm old enough to have seen some great players come and go and Spurs are still here, and i love them just as much - it'll be tough to see him go but it'll also be exciting to see a completely fresh Ange led rebuild. Fresh = Hope.

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

Oh yeah, I agree. It's all in Kane's power ultimately. But Levy has to be seen to act one way or another. He can't just sit on his hands.

Pre any Lewis intervention, Levy's strategy seemed clear. He wanted Kane to stay, and he believed he had a decent chance of persuading him to sign a new mega-contract once the transfer window closed. Kane has never said he won't sign a contract with Spurs.. He's only said he won't sign one while the transfer window is open.

So Levy has been playing the old game of refusing to name a price, because he doesnt actually want to sell. If he put a ridiculously high price on him, it would alienate all sorts of people including HK, so in fairly typical DL fashion he shifted the responsibility, in this case onto on to BM to make an offer he couldn't refuse, as in, genuinely couldn't refuse.

So I have never thought he's doing nothing: he has a plan. It's just that most people believe it's not realistic and therefore counts for nothing.

But the truth is that despite all our "realism" andour hard-headed learnt-from-experience lack of rose-tinted glasses, none of us actually knows what persuasions HK is ultimately susceptible to.

 

[neogenisis]

I am sick of it, there is always some sort of cloud hanging over our club. If Kane wants to leave or is waiting out his options then make the decision for him, Ange wants players who are bought in, Kane cant be right now. Sign or fuck off.

 

[DJS]

I think for me at least Bayern would be a good one to go for, he's bound to win some trophies, he's in the champions league with a very good squad, he'd get paid plenty and he would not piss off the spurs fans compared to if he moved to a premier league team. Now i will say that Bayern fans/journos have not covered themselves in glory so far but out of so many teams if Kane went to Bayern i would far prefer that. It's a tough one for him though as this will be the last big contract most likely.

For me though, winning the title of domestic cup with Bayern is not really a massive achievement.

Being top scorer in English league means more.

I’d also say looking at our squad we probably have the strongest squad we’ve had for a few years, aside from centre back, which fingers crossed we will resolve.

It would be more of an achievement therefore to push us onto trophies.

But that’s just me and I’m an odd bod lol.

 

[Trix]

Vlahovic'd be a miserable replacement imo. We're losing one of the most elegant playmakers I've seen to replace him with a big **** up top?

Vlahovic is a workhorse without the ball, has 96 goals and 16 assists in 220 games and he's only 23. He's far more than just a big lump up top.