Harry Kane

[wadewill]

The Andy Booth loan was a cracking one

 

[Albertbarich]

Many different angles on it, obviously record goalscorer, that's a fact

How people define greatest player is a differing opinion for a start - most impactful to the club or actually best footballer? If its the latter then Bale and Modric were ahead of Kane in the last 15 years alone.

Calling people odd because they don't agree with you on something that is very open to debate and subjective makes you a bit of a twat.

It's odd because first of all I said arguably and it certainly is an arguable point but there is no way anyone can say it isn't.

He has been amazing for a long time now and even if you're mad his leaving or mad he kicked up a fuss about City you can't deny how incredible he has been.

Onto your point about Bale. And Modric it's not even close. They are wonderful players who have had a better career than Harry but when you're taking achievements with this club Harry is clear of them all apart from a select few like Mackay, Blanchflower and Hoddle

 

[Dave1882]

The Andy Booth loan was a cracking one

He was no Gregorz Rasiak

 

[chas vs dave]

“Rushing to get one in just because it’s early”!!! Are you having a laugh?! The same 2 targets haven’t changed since the beginning of the window! We’ve been talking/negotiating with Tabsoba & VDVen throughout, and now it’s barely 2 weeks before the season starts. There’s no excuse for not having at least 1 of them here, and neither should be dependent on the Kane money.

And you know what has happened, and what the status is?

There's no excuse? Perhaps the clubs selling don't want to sell?

There are plenty of reasons why things haven't happened. Much of which we aren't privy to. The reality is that people don't know, and this is second guessing.

You can spin it as much as you like into levy rhetoric. It could be down to him, it could be down to a number of reasons.

Ange has already said publicly that we will sign a centre back.

 

[[email protected]]

Sorry dude, no one must have explained to you the rules around here. You are allowed, nay, expected to present your argument using evidence that backs it up, and can ignore anything that would provide anything that would provide weight to the opposing argument. No need to deal with reality, just pick and choose which facts are relevant.

Hope this helps.

You mean like the “reality” of after 3 managers and 6 windows were still waiting for the LCB position to be upgraded. Is that “fact relevant” enough for you or would you prefer to pick a different one?
“Hope this helps”

 

[spursfan77]

Doom and gloom everywhere, when our previous record scorer left the club we won silverware for three successive seasons. Cheer up everybody , life will go on.

But Levy wasnt the chairman then

 

[nicdic]

And therein probably lies the crux of the issue, what we consider to be a "reasonable fee".
In my book, Tapsoba for 50 odd million is a pretty reasonable fee, given his age, profile and our need for a player like him.
I'm not one of the "just pay up Levy FFS" gang but I do think there are times when we need to show a bit more ambition to actually get our targets.

Yeah, I'd agree with that, just don't believe we have anywhere near enough information to know when and where that should happen.

 

[wadewill]

It's odd because first of all I said arguably and it certainly is an arguable point but there is no way anyone can say it isn't.

He has been amazing for a long time now and even if you're mad his leaving or mad he kicked up a fuss about City you can't deny how incredible he has been.

Onto your point about Bale. And Modric it's not even close. They are wonderful players who have had a better career than Harry but when you're taking achievements with this club Harry is clear of them all apart from a select few like Mackay, Blanchflower and Hoddle

I wasn't actually aiming at you bud, it was someone else.

But your last line was partly my point. I would argue Bale was a better player than Kane, but even that is subjective as they are different types of player. Actually for Spurs and what he has done for this club Kane is way above him. However IMO he isn't above any of the above mentioned or Greaves

 

[neogenisis]

The Andy Booth loan was a cracking one

 

[Albertbarich]

I wasn't actually aiming at you bud, it was someone else.

But your last line was partly my point. I would argue Bale was a better player than Kane, but even that is subjective as they are different types of player. Actually for Spurs and what he has done for this club Kane is way above him. However IMO he isn't above any of the above mentioned or Greaves

Yeah if we're talking raw talent then Glenn Hoddle(my idol) is the one, it was an honour watching Modric , Waddle, Gazza and others aswell.

 

[nicdic]

You mean like the “reality” of after 3 managers and 6 windows were still waiting for the LCB position to be upgraded. Is that “fact relevant” enough for you or would you prefer to pick a different one?
“Hope this helps”

Sure, it's relevant, but so are loads of other things. People go on as if we don't make any transfers ever, or never get our top targets because we're always haggling, and it just patently isn't true.

 

[Ribble]

I know everyone is saying we should sign a young player with massive potential to replace Kane and play backup to Richy.

But what young players with that potential are even available?

From a quick search, there isn't a whole lot that seem attainable/ready to step up.

I guess we have to just trust our new scouting team with this one.

Before I'd have said someone like Højlund seemed like a great fit for that, not really popped off properly yet & looks to have immense quality, but look at how much Man United are paying for him!

 

[Scot-Spur]

Levy doesn't back the manager with any signings he wants other than the time he backs him with the signing he wants but because the manager decided to have a meltdown and get sacked it is Levy's fault for backing the manager with a signing he wanted.

Without derailing this thread much…. It’s the fact up until now we have been utterly directionless. Levy is essentially the captain of the ship. He has jumped between this and that and left the squad in a utter mess, wasting the best years of Kane while flip flopping between styles of play and poor manager choices.

He backs managers when it suits, he never has gone the whole way. What is the point employing them in the first place if you won’t back them to the end?

I personally think we are heading in a positive direction, however the jury is out and will remain out especially as we still don’t have a CB.

 

[dSSAbr]

His departure is not an outcome I consider happy, but one I've been ready for since when City tried to buy him. A brilliant player who over the last few years has developed a game that is even more beautiful to watch, but which has unfortunately coincided with our decline. The egoist in me would like to see him play with us for the rest of his career, but one has to question how beneficial that is for both of us. It looks like we are going to lose the one who is the best striker in the world in my opinion, as he is the most complete, but now we can try something new, something that takes a bit of pressure off Ange and lets him do his job (which wouldn't be easy with Kane and won't be without him) but allows those who think Kane is synonymous with CL to lower their expectations a bit.

Now the hope is that this money is used in a better way than Bale was last time, to focus on quality rather than quantity, even if it's not to directly replace Kane.

 

[Styopa]

It's odd because first of all I said arguably and it certainly is an arguable point but there is no way anyone can say it isn't.

He has been amazing for a long time now and even if you're mad his leaving or mad he kicked up a fuss about City you can't deny how incredible he has been.

Onto your point about Bale. And Modric it's not even close. They are wonderful players who have had a better career than Harry but when you're taking achievements with this club Harry is clear of them all apart from a select few like Mackay, Blanchflower and Hoddle

Kane without a doubt is arguably our great ever player for the reasons you have given. He’s in that conversation for sure even if not everyone agrees that he is the best.

But some people might be disagreeing with the idea that losing him will “sting”.

It’s not going to feel like a sting to me when he leaves, that’s just a fact about me and judging by the thread lots others feel the same. It’s nothing to do with coping mechanisms, it’s just I’ve not enjoyed watching us play with him in the team for the last four years anyway.

 

[Mate]

Out of all the players that have left to go to "bigger clubs", Kane deserves more respect than any of them by far.

He's given everything for this club from the age of 11. And in that time, graced us with so many memories.

We can't be bitter about him leaving when we all know that our ownership are only willing to invest enough to remain in CL spots. Kane always said that if we matched his ambitions then he would remain at Spurs - we have failed to do this.

Wish him all the best over in Germany.

 

[Tucker]

Doom and gloom everywhere, when our previous record scorer left the club we won silverware for three successive seasons. Cheer up everybody , life will go on.

That was in the days when one or two teams weren’t monopolising all the trophies. Even if Levy suddenly has a damascene conversion and starts spending wildly. It’s highly unlikely we’ll win anything in the next five years.

 

[JR1994]

Yes we definitely need to sign someone if Kane leaves. Currently our front three and backups looks something like this

Son Solomon / Perisic
Kane Richy
Kulu Gil / Persic

Considering it's been reported Perisic has been told he will be allowed to leave as well then we'll be a player short if Kane leaves (we'll have 5 for potentially an area we need 6 players).

A high potential player that can cover all three positions would be my preference.

Maddison and maybe Lo Celso will offer us some goals from a different area but those front 3 options are worrying for a consistent stream of goals imo.

 

[chas vs dave]

I'm just not convinced that this saga will be over today. I just can't see bayern offering what we want.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

Bring on all your hate - but I think we will score more goals, and finish higher than 8th this season - without Kane.


Football is a team sport. I think we have become too reliant on just a few players. Without Kane to rely on - I think we will see several players step up into bigger roles this season.

We may not have a 30-goal scorer in the squad - but we will have more players involved in the build-up and in the goals.