Harry to go in summer?

[brasil_spur]

Harry now getting compared to Ramos.

I fucking love you spurs.

Arsenal haven't won fuck all for 5 years, yet Wenger gets nothing but support.
Moyes is still Everton boss despite them finishing 4th a few years ago and declining rapidly since then.

We've had a bad TRANSFER WINDOW, and we're questioning the boss.

We're ****s arent we. Let's be honest.

Arsenal regularly compete at the top level though, we don't. When we regularly compete on all fronts and have 10+ years of CL qualification and a shiny new stadium then i would imagine we'll give Harry nothing but support too.

Everton don't have any funds available, this can't be expected to compete in the current climate. Spurs have spent more money than almost any other team in the league, thus we expect more.

Just for the record this thread is supposed to be about how we think Harry will fair if we finish 5th or lower this season, which is looking more likely now that our two closest rivals for 4th have bought in new big name strikers this window.

 

[AngerManagement]

Buying for the sake of buying is not a good idea.

I'm glad we stuck with what we had instead of paying crazy fees and breaking our wage structure for someone unless they were the right player for us.

I remember all those years ago when Keegan's Newcastle were flying high with Beardlsy/Ginola/Ferdinand and they went and spent big money on a flashy international forward called Asprilla....good player though he was he completely unbalanced their side and effected the great spirit and mentality they had at their club and it coincided with their whole season going tits up.

Our strikers have not had the best of times in the last season and a half this is true and it is obvious that none of them are really up to the standard we require. I really thought Levy would have been making provisions for the Jan transfer window since the last one closed and we knew our profile had been raised via our CL exploits, so I was not only disappointed but somewhat shocked to see come the window we seemed to be starting from scratch with no clear game plan and once again it went to the wire without nothing happening.

That being said, what would we have done? Once Bent went for such silly money (to an Villa team desperate to avoid relegation and from a Sunderland team who would only sell for a huge fee) the market was blown apart, City then spent a vast sum on Dzeko and even players from the Dutch league were going for over £20m....then one of our main targets has his value pushed up to £35m a crazy valuation and of course we were not going to pursue that (it only worth while for Liverpool because of the amount they sold Torres for)

Jan is never a good time to sign players because mid season only someone surplus to requirements will be moved on unless you pay way over the odds.

The bottom line is VDV will return to form soon, he is too good not to and our three main strikers are not the mugs they get made out to be. Each of them are full international strikers and I would not be at all surprised to see them click into form now the window has closed and speculation has ended.

At the end of the day what is the point of crying over this spilt milk? THis squad still got us CL football in the first place, this sqaud has still performed so well in the CL (free scoring I might add so not incapable of banging them in) and if you cast your mind back to NOvemeber you will remember one of the greatest months of football ever at this club.

Yes it is a disappointment to not bring in the striker you would hope could complete our puzzle but what's done is done and now we have to focus on making fourth again, I think the race will still be between us and City for fourth place as Chelsea will surely find their feet with Torres and a tightened defence (not to mention Drogba and Lampard returning to form soon) Liverpool could also throw themselves in the mix if their signings hit the ground running.

It's an exciting time still don't lose sight of that, we have a CL game against Milan soon for all of us 30 or under this is surely the biggest game we have ever seen the club play and we are still well placed to challenge to retain our CL status via the league (people writing us off already, just like this time last year actually)

It's time for Defoe, Crouch an Pav to really step up and prove Harry's faith in them is justified....cometh the hour and all that.

 

[AngerManagement]

Harry now getting compared to Ramos.

I fucking love you spurs.

Arsenal haven't won fuck all for 5 years, yet Wenger gets nothing but support.
Moyes is still Everton boss despite them finishing 4th a few years ago and declining rapidly since then.

We've had a bad TRANSFER WINDOW, and we're questioning the boss.

We're ****s arent we. Let's be honest.

Are you shitting me? everytime Arsenal drop a point their fans are up in arms and asking if Wenger has lost his touch and is it time for him to step down.

Listen to the radio phone in's every single time they lose or draw seriously or indeed talk to arsenal fans you know after such times and watch the average reaction.

Wenger has known about our goalkeeper issues for x years and still hasn't sorted it....

Wenger's stubbornness is costing us, he needs to spend money if we are ever going to win the league again

Rah rah rah

Seriously it makes me laugh so much whenever they do this because Wenger is clearly a managerial genius and he is bar far and away the best they ever had yet they as a collective turn on him whenever the going gets slightly tough (spoilt by his successes I suppose).

Plus a Spurs fan clearly has more to worry about than an Arsenal fan at this time, not that I am justifying all the silly knee jerk reactions.... I am just pointing out that Arsenal fans are just as bad for this, infact worse because they are an established CL team and they know at the end of the season they will be in the CL again where as we have seen ourselves reach that level for the first time and have cause to worry about our ability to retain it and of course worry about just how far back slipping out of it would set us.

But remember what happened to Leeds, they were in the CL semi final I believe and started spending huge money and vast wages in an attempt to maintain that success at it ended up costing them pretty much everything so I am glad we didn't break our wage structures or be held to ransom over fees in a desperate attempt to sustain our success.

What we have been doing has been working and we are still good enough to come fourth, people forget we were being tipped as title outsiders not so long ago...what has changed? We have the same group of players that were unbeated for 11 games and winning with 10 men.

The Everton game was a set back and we have not really bounced back since then, the FA doesn't matter and that game was a freak due to school boy Dawson errors. Let's focus on the run in, for God sake we are in the CL knock out phases for the first time ever, we as fans have been dreaming of this forever yet instead of being positive and enjoying this time we are doom and glooming and writing the season of because of a handful of poor results and an inactive transfer window.

GEt a grip...

 

[trifon]

I'm not really into sacking managers as on a f...n video game. And Harry certainly has his qualities (lifting team spirit in all kinds of situtions, keeping it simple, picking the right players and motivating them...)

But... I cannot see as progressing as a team with him in charge. I think this is his limit and it seems he's out of depth. He's lacking in too many areas that are crucial for modern game on top level and he will never make this team a properly coached unit that attacks and defends with automatism rather than improvisation.

I genuinely believe we have a slightly better squad than Arsenal this year. But Arsenal are still miles ahead of us in terms of consistency, organization and results.

 

[vonn]

For once i think DL had money to spend if we needed to, and yet Harry seemed very unexcited about signing anyone yesterday on ssn.

Yes, noticed that with Harry most of the month. In the summer as well. Interestingly since we qualified for the Champions League we have only spent about £12 million. This is the time to push on and we only spend £12 million over two windows. Very strange.

I wonder if it has anything to do with what happened at Portsmouth. He was getting quite a bit of criticism in the press and John Utaka kept getting mentioned as one of the worse signings ever, and then there was his blow-up at the mention of "wheeler-dealer". He seems obsessed about mentioning Levy handles the money side at every opportunityas well. Perhaps all that has changed his way of looking at transfer ins. :shrug:

 

[ThorntonSpur]

Liverpool panicked and had to appease thier fans. carroll did not weant to leave newcastle so they have an unhappy player on thier books. And how does it affect his court aorder that he has to live with Nolan?

Chelsea - Roman has woken up and decided to plough millions back in to the club reversing his policy. Panicked to maintain top 4. probably the biggest winner out of this.

man utd - who did they buy?
Arsenal - who did thy buy?

HR does not need to leave BUT i think we do need some one like arnesen back to oversee transfers.
Those that bought panicked even man City

4th or even 3rd is still thier for the taking. As many have said our strkers are not playing well BUT we are 5th. So eventually one of them if not all will start firing.

IMHO we did not need a striker at this stage. I expected if anything a defender BUT again I think Woodgates progress sees HR thinking we do not need one.

Thye surprise was not coughing up 3 million for Neville. What we do lack and it was so apparent against Fulham is players with balls when we are up against it. No leadershiop when dawson went off. That could be our Downfall.

Key is tomorrow and the reaction of the players. Niko has been told i love you by HR. i hope he plays wide left. Stirkers have confidence that they are wanted.

Look at it like that all the players at the club must feel that the managerial team think they can deliver.

We need to stick to a formation and not dick around like we did against Fulham.

2 men wide 2 in the middle and decide if we go 2 up front.

AND WE MUST CARRY ON GETTING BEHIND THEM - I looking forward to going with the kids tomorrow and then down to the lane on saturday. its about six points from six if that happens and hopefully it will the window will be forgotten about.

COYS

 

[arnoldlayne]

We need to be careful what we wish for. Remember what happened last time we sacked a good 5th place manager for Ramos?

I think Harry needs to accept a DoF though, and if he doesnt then he needs to go. Our buying strategy is non existent.

Harry is a good coach and has an eye for a player. But I dont think he will ever get value for money from buys. Management is more than enough for Harry without having to scout players too.

I say get Arnesen back.

No evidence for that in last couple of windows apart from bargain-basement

 

[arnoldlayne]

Harry now getting compared to Ramos.

I fucking love you spurs.

Arsenal haven't won fuck all for 5 years, yet Wenger gets nothing but support.
Moyes is still Everton boss despite them finishing 4th a few years ago and declining rapidly since then.

We've had a bad TRANSFER WINDOW, and we're questioning the boss.

We're ****s arent we. Let's be honest.

Re: Arsenal - when was the last time they failed to qualify for Champions League? They are still in 4 competitions

Re: Moyes - has he actually got any transfer budget as he keeps having to sell his players

You can't compare them to us

 

[Jamturk]

Harry should be judged on the perfomance of the team and not on any signing he may not have completed.

End Of!

 

[CheltYid]

I have to admit I was feeling fed up last night that we couldn't sign a striker this window, however......

.....hmmmm, I'm still fed up so I'll post once the mardy arse inside me has dissipated.

 

[StartingPrice]

Sacked because we didn't sign a player? .

:rofl:

I think i'll leave the post mortem until the season has actually finished.

THIS...jeez took you imagine this lot in charge of a pathologists office. Not so Silent WitnessEek

Buying for the sake of buying is not a good idea.

It's not.

Liverpool panicked and had to appease thier fans. carroll did not weant to leave newcastle so they have an unhappy player on thier books. And how does it affect his court aorder that he has to live with Nolan?

Chelsea - Roman has woken up and decided to plough millions back in to the club reversing his policy. Panicked to maintain top 4. probably the biggest winner out of this.

man utd - who did they buy?
Arsenal - who did thy buy?

HR does not need to leave BUT i think we do need some one like arnesen back to oversee transfers.
Those that bought panicked even man City

4th or even 3rd is still thier for the taking. As many have said our strkers are not playing well BUT we are 5th. So eventually one of them if not all will start firing.

IMHO we did not need a striker at this stage. I expected if anything a defender BUT again I think Woodgates progress sees HR thinking we do not need one.

Thye surprise was not coughing up 3 million for Neville. What we do lack and it was so apparent against Fulham is players with balls when we are up against it. No leadershiop when dawson went off. That could be our Downfall.

Key is tomorrow and the reaction of the players. Niko has been told i love you by HR. i hope he plays wide left. Stirkers have confidence that they are wanted.

Look at it like that all the players at the club must feel that the managerial team think they can deliver.

We need to stick to a formation and not dick around like we did against Fulham.

2 men wide 2 in the middle and decide if we go 2 up front.

AND WE MUST CARRY ON GETTING BEHIND THEM - I looking forward to going with the kids tomorrow and then down to the lane on saturday. its about six points from six if that happens and hopefully it will the window will be forgotten about.

COYS

:clap:
An interesting post.
I, for one, am slightly disappointed that we didn't get a shiny new striker. I can't see the point in Pav staying (much as I love the fella) unless he is oin' to suddenly develop a massive brain and learn the language, or if 'Arry is gonna get over his qualms about the langugae difficulty and just play the fecker for a good run of games.
Crouch...I agree with what seems to be the concensus...should really be an interesting Plan B from the bench.
And JD...:shrug:
But, isn't it amazing/amusing...United play sh*t and everyone is saying "Oooooh, look at how wonderful they are to STILL be top despite playing like crap". We don't play particularly well, coinciding with a dreadful run of form from our strikers and is it "Oooh, look at how good they are, they haven't been playing great and their strikers are a bag of shite and they are still 5th and well in contention" - is it bollocks.

Okay, look, most of us are a bit disappointed...but let's not get too far ahead of ourselves...we are making ourselves look FICKLE:-|

 

[danielneeds]

Moron thread. Bunch of panic-stricken children.

 

[trifon]

Harry should be judged on the perfomance of the team and not on any signing he may not have completed.

End Of!

Exactly, and I find our level of performance disappointing considering the quality in this squad. I think many fans don't realise actually how good this squad is. We have 3 genuine world class players any other team would kill for, some very good/talented players and decent strength in depth.

We're as good as any other team in EPL in terms of individual quality. And we won't get further than this under current management, I'm afraid. We are the most disorganized team in the top 5, and some of us keep saying this regardless of particular result, because it's been obvious for some time. This team is not properly coached for top level consistency.

Some of us hoped for a marquee striker to paper over the cracks, that's all.

 

[brasil_spur]

Harry should be judged on the perfomance of the team and not on any signing he may not have completed.

End Of!

I agree, which is why a run of 2 wins, 2 loses and 2 draws in 6 games so far in 2011 isn't inspiring much confidence right now.

Oh and none of out strikers have scored a goal in 8 games. And our striker have scored a total of 7 goals between them in 3 months.

man utd - who did they buy?

why do you need to buy when you are top of the league? :shrug:

IMHO we did not need a striker at this stage. I expected if anything a defender BUT again I think Woodgates progress sees HR thinking we do not need one.

See the stats above and tell me why we don't need a striker please!

Thye surprise was not coughing up 3 million for Neville.

The surprise was offering the pathetic amount of £250,00 for Neville - either we wanted him or we didn't, no need to take the piss with stupid offers - makes us look like amateurs.

Key is tomorrow and the reaction of the players.

COYS

I agree. :clap:

 

[AngerManagement]

Liverpool panicked and had to appease thier fans. carroll did not weant to leave newcastle so they have an unhappy player on thier books. And how does it affect his court aorder that he has to live with Nolan?

It was my understanding that the case that lead to him having to live with Nolan had since been dropped due to insufficient evidence, is that not the case?

 

[brasil_spur]

Moron thread. Bunch of panic-stricken children.

We can't question our transfer policy?

We can't expect to address the obvious weaknesses in our squad?

We can't complain when DL and HR embarass us publicly by bidding £250,000 for Neville?

We can't be disappointed that our two main rivals for 4th spot strengthen their first teams and we don't?

 

[danielneeds]

We can't question our transfer policy?

We can't expect to address the obvious weaknesses in our squad?

We can't complain when DL and HR embarass us publicly by bidding £250,000 for Neville?

We can't be disappointed that our two main rivals for 4th spot strengthen their first teams and we don't?

Question..sure. Panicking and finger pointing are what is going on here though.

The club look to strengthen every window, but sometimes it won't happen, especially with the quality we are looking for.

You talk about Liverpool, but they are starting a major rebuilding process, we are not. Chelsea did what we can never do unless we have a sugar daddy, throw about money willy-nilly. Hopefully the fair play rules coming in, will mean they and Citeh will not be able to do it in future.

We have never had it so good. I wish some fans would remember that.

 

[trifon]

But, isn't it amazing/amusing...United play sh*t and everyone is saying "Oooooh, look at how wonderful they are to STILL be top despite playing like crap". We don't play particularly well, coinciding with a dreadful run of form from our strikers and is it "Oooh, look at how good they are, they haven't been playing great and their strikers are a bag of shite and they are still 5th and well in contention" - is it bollocks.

United arguably at their worst and cruising the league without a single game lost. This year we are supposedly fantastic, most exciting team in EPL and that gets us... 5th?

There is a big difference, and I don't think it's quality of the squad, not this year.

 

[alpha]

What the fuck is wrong with people on this forum when Spurs either lose a game or don't sign the players they want???

Why is there a high proportion of spoilt brats on SC?

 

[StartingPrice]

United arguably at their worst and cruising the league without a single game lost. This year we are supposedly fantastic, most exciting team in EPL and that gets us... 5th?

There is a big difference, and I don't think it's quality of the squad, not this year.

But winning the league is success for United - let's see if they do it.
Finishing 4th again is success for us - let's see if we do it.
Both are still on course...that's what I am saying.