Harry - trial begins

[sloth]

I'd genuinely love to know how much this whole investigation and trial costs compares to the 300k Harry owes.

If the jury do find him guilty i really cannot see how it can be a safe conviction, football is way to big a part of UK life for there to be totally impartial jury (same reason why i believe no UK referee can be totally impartial)

It is a witch hunt on HMRC's part they've been trying to sting managers for years.

This is the kind of "RAWK" like post I was going about before.

As for the how much does it cost argument, every time a kid mugs a granny for £20 the trial costs several hundred times that much and the incarceration a few tens of thousands more. Justice isn't carried on a cost basis is it?

 

[3Dnata]

I think all our mods should have redknapp added to their user names and all our sigs should read " Mr Redknapp is not a tax cheat". We need to get t-shirts printed

 

[sloth]

No, that's what the prosecution QC stated, who opened the account is a matter of debate: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-16698153




He doesn't deny knowledge that a payment was made, but he does deny having access to the account, surely if somebody doesn't have access to an account then they can't have received the money.

I see what you mean about the opening the account thing, from everything I'd read prior to that BBC article I'd got the impression that Redknapp wasn't denying flying to Monaco to open it. But that BBC report certainly sounds as if he is.

 

[Wellspurs]

I'd genuinely love to know how much this whole investigation and trial costs compares to the 300k Harry owes.

If the jury do find him guilty i really cannot see how it can be a safe conviction, football is way to big a part of UK life for there to be totally impartial jury (same reason why i believe no UK referee can be totally impartial)

It is a witch hunt on HMRC's part they've been trying to sting managers for years.

These high profile trials are always worth it, make alot of people in the game think twice before taking the piss with the tax system.

Example; although it was a not guilty verdict on Ken Dodd for tax evasion the tax take from similar entertainers shot up following the case.

 

[spurslenny]

I've not been paying much attention to the finer details of this case, but wouldn't Redknapp have been P.A.Y.E, or would his position have been considered self employed?

Maybe a bit naive of me, but there you go.

 

[sasa_moto]

It's a good job Harry doesn't have a 10% transfer rule with us because he would owe us millions.:grin:

He would sold Modric, re-signed him and sold again by now. :grin:

I really hope that someone who is responsible for success on the pitch and the way team play doesn't gain profit from selling players. 10 years ago when HR sold Crouch from Portsmouth, whose interests he had in mind?

 

[phil]

I've not been paying much attention to the finer details of this case, but wouldn't Redknapp have been P.A.Y.E, or would his position have been considered self employed?

Maybe a bit naive of me, but there you go.

Irrelevant. Harry (allegedly) failed to declare income on which income tax and NIC would have been due. Even Harry's (unbelievable?) defence that the amounts were 'loans' is a bit iffy as employer loans are treated as employment benefits and should be declared.

 

[Paolo10]

If he's signing players that he's making a big profit for the club from and it's in his contract, that's fair enough. It's like a bonus for making the club money, a sales incentive. For a smaller club it's understandable.

 

[spurslenny]

Irrelevant. Harry (allegedly) failed to declare income on which income tax and NIC would have been due. Even Harry's (unbelievable?) defence that the amounts were 'loans' is a bit iffy as employer loans are treated as employment benefits and should be declared.

My point is if he was P.A.Y.E, why would he need to declare anything? That would be down to his employer (Portsmouth FC) to make the necessary deductions and payments to HMRC.

 

[Wirral Spurs]

My point is if he was P.A.Y.E, why would he need to declare anything? That would be down to his employer (Portsmouth FC) to make the necessary deductions and payments to HMRC.

He would still have to submit his own tax return that includes all his income, PAYE or otherwise. It is his responsibility to declare everything. Anyone with any other type of income on top of PAYE at any time in their career has to do a tax return.

 

[gilzeantheking]

arcesport James Pearce
Prosecution " Was it credible that it never occurred to Mr Redknapp to mention the existence of this account to his own accountant?"
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Pearcesport James Pearce
Prosecution "Was there any good reason why the account in Monaco could not be opened in the name of Harry Redknapp?" (instead of Rosie47)
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Pearcesport James Pearce
Prosecution: "Is it credible when told of loss of investment money that R simply laughed about it and decided to forget about it all?"
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Pearcesport James Pearce
Prosecution ask series of questions: "Do they really think payments like this from chairman to senior employee not liable to income tax"
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Pearcesport James Pearce
Pros say payments to R repeatedly characterised as bonus for success for Portsmouth and should have been taxed
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Pearcesport James Pearce
Prosecution say statements by R and M "contradictory, inconsistent and lacking in credibility"
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Pearcesport James Pearce
Prosecution in Redknapp/Mandaric been concluding their opening statement. Lot of info to give you
5 minutes ago

 

[talkshowhost86]

Have they only just finished their opening statement? Or should that read closing statement?

 

[gilzeantheking]

Pearcesport James Pearce
Prosecution close opening argument by saying that they submit that payments into Rosie47 were taxable and that R and M knew that

 

[Danny1]

2 and a bit days for the opening statement......snoozefest 2012!

 

[talkshowhost86]

I'm not sure if it's just me being loyal to a Spurs manager or if I just don't really get the issue, but that actually looks like a pretty flimsy case.

 

[trevo]

 

[pablo73]

brilliant!

 

[Pauleta01]

its not looking good for Harry, the court said he is not credible !!! Could have asked anyone that when Harry is talking about transfers !!!

 

[Mr Pink]

When do the defence start their opening statements?

 

[$hoguN]

its not looking good for Harry, the court said he is not credible !!! Could have asked anyone that when Harry is talking about transfers !!!

FFS... The prosecution are putting their case forward right now, if he did not look guilty after that than they all don't deserve to have jobs. Let's way for both sides to be heard before we condemn the guy