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"Harry's Frustration" - Article

Samson

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levy n redknapp realise the pressing need for a strong, powerful forward player. less of a priority but still a high priority is a smaller faster goalgetter. suarez was overpriced, seriously , why would anyone pay over 20 million for a dutch league hotshot. he could be great here, he could quite as easily flop. levy obviously started paniccing and bidding for the smaller players (rossi,aguero) as well as the bigger ones (llorente,negredo,carroll) with a view to at the very least getting a lower priority type player in and dealing with the highest priority in the summer.

but the clubs can see spurs need these players badly and so they tried to get us to pay all the taxes and fees on top of the high fees.

these things happen, no big deal.

To be fair to Levy, if Liverpool had bought Carroll for 20 million or Suarez for 15, I'd be a lot more critical.

That article also points out the pointlessness of the complaints about scouting. Harry doesn't want Sandros or Kyle Walkers, he wants Phil Nevilles, guys who've been there and done something at least. Levy doesn't, and frankly, Harry's views on football economics are not to be trusted. But that leaves us in something of a bind.
 

double0

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Lets be frank 15M for Folan on 140K a week for a 31/32 year old, Neville another right back, Charlie Adams??? we just bought Pineaar, 35m for Carroll well we could have offered a fee and Crouch but Arry loves Crouch.

We now have to wait (a good thing tbh) during the close season and take our time to improve the squad.
 

thinktank

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Sep 28, 2004
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"It's getting harder because the other teams have strengthened their squads".

Wtf else was gonn happen??? I can't believe what's gone on this window, we will look back at it with tears in our eyes.
 

bubble07

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Redknapp definitely has the clubs best interests. Other managers would have just spent the clubs 23m on a player that will not really fit into the way we would play

I'm sure we went as high as 25m for Carroll. At that price we may have for him but with Torres going Liverpool had cah to burn
 

NEVILLEB

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Harry identified his targets

Levy tried to get the best deals by leaving it to the last minute. It blew up in his face again.

Harry is pissed but can't criticise his boss
 

sloth

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Harry has every right to demand the players that he wants. It's just the players he demands make me think he's not the right manager for us over the long term.

Fair enough, he's been brilliant in the short-term with a squad he largely inherited and then spectacularly got the best out of. But his targets are woeful.

They are all players who have failed at Champions League clubs or never been wanted by them. The other factor for Harry is whether they did well against a team of his in a particular game or couple of games. He's old school, gut instinct sort of guy. He won't trust his scouts, he won't give a go to players they recommend, but he continues to rate player's he chose often long past their sell by dates.

He spunked £40m (plus wages) on Keane, Defoe and Crouch. Keane has departed for maybe £6m after barely playing for a season. Crouch is bottom of the Premier League scoring charts. Defoe not much better.

Pav on the other hand has the seventh best strike rate per minute played in the Premier League this season, the only six players better than him are: Berba; Hernandez; Tevez; Kalou; Carroll; and VdV.

That means that players with worse striker rates than than him include: Gyan; Nasri; Drogba; Bent; Malouda; Torres; Chamakh; Elmander; Nani; and Bale.

But Crouch plays every week while we look to ship Pav out to Sunderland. Which reminds me, Sunderland who bought Bent another striker Harry didn't buy, so didn't rate and pilloried in the media, but who Sunderland just got over £20m for.

Look at his targets: Cole (past it), Neville (past it), Keane (past it), Crouch (past it).

I'm sure there are more.

What really fucks me off about Harry though is that he doesn't want a DoF, he won't delegate, but he won't do the work himself. Instead he moans to the press all the time. That's the worst thing, whatever he feels privately can't he just keep it private?
 

beals

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The Jan window, as far as we are concerned was simply a cluster F**K, lets hope Daniel and Harry get their act together for the summer. Just hope its a case then of bringing in the right striker to suit our system etc and not jsut trying to hold on our top players.
 

dooey123

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As has been said there must be more talent than a few strikers in Spain. I'd have even been happy with a youngster with some amount of potential to replace Keane. This just says our scouting is rubbish at the moment.
 

beals

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Damien Comolli took our main european scout to Liverpool with him once he got the job, then took our number one striker target during the window. We were to slow to sign our scout up and too slow to get Carroll if that's who we really wanted. Time to get it sorted for the summer boys.
 

SpurSince57

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Damien Comolli took our main european scout to Liverpool with him once he got the job, then took our number one striker target during the window. We were to slow to sign our scout up and too slow to get Carroll if that's who we really wanted. Time to get it sorted for the summer boys.

And you'd have been OK with us shelling out £35m for Carroll? It's pretty clear that anything less would have been turned down.
 

DEFchenkOE

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Harry seems a bit pissed off and lost for words in that video, not often you can say that about him.
 

am_yisrael_chai

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I font know why people think our striker situation will be fixed in the summer, there maybe more players available but we still won't pay the wages real stars command. Instead of looking for a marquee signing we should try to unearth a hidden gem, a Gareth Bale of strikers. Don't shop in Harrods if you're only willing to pay Tesco money.
 

ThorntonSpur

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I font know why people think our striker situation will be fixed in the summer, there maybe more players available but we still won't pay the wages real stars command. Instead of looking for a marquee signing we should try to unearth a hidden gem, a Gareth Bale of strikers. Don't shop in Harrods if you're only willing to pay Tesco money.


that man is Connor Wickham :grin:
 

Wirral Spurs

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Daniel will only buy players that he can sell on at a profit. The needs of the team are generally not considered. We have done OK with it up to now and doubt if it will change.
 

beals

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And you'd have been OK with us shelling out £35m for Carroll? It's pretty clear that anything less would have been turned down.

Nah I'm not saying that at all, £35m is completely crazy money and I don't fault either Harry or Daniel for not paying that.

What I'm saying as someone said in another thread is that we should be pro-active rather than reactive. Scout our targets and then go for them, rather than leaving it all until the window is about to close. Our signing of Modric showed how it should be done, not a whisper then bang the signing is announced.
 

beats1

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Fair enough HR is probably right about Suarez.

But surely there are more front men in Europe than 4 in Spain.

Anyone would be an improvement.

TBF two years ago everyone said the same about rooney and tevez BUT last year they have shown


To be fair, I can understand why levy would be reluctant to buy yet another right back and yet another CM.

with luka out and hudd out adams would be a good player
 

SpurSince57

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Nah I'm not saying that at all, £35m is completely crazy money and I don't fault either Harry or Daniel for not paying that.

What I'm saying as someone said in another thread is that we should be pro-active rather than reactive. Scout our targets and then go for them, rather than leaving it all until the window is about to close. Our signing of Modric showed how it should be done, not a whisper then bang the signing is announced.

I agree with that, and even if things on deadline day didn't happen quite the way SSN and our ITKs claimed it's the perception that counts, and the perception is that it was Fred Karno's Circus. Whether we'd have had any more joy bidding earlier is anyone's guess, though. What got me is, if Harry wanted a big lunk like Carroll, why suddenly turn to Rossi?
 

kdspur

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Harry identified his targets

Levy tried to get the best deals by leaving it to the last minute. It blew up in his face again.

Harry is pissed but can't criticise his boss


totally agree mate. the above in a nutshell.. cant believe people here balaming harry. its obvious he gives list to levy . nothing got to do with harry if we dont get them...levy and board should only be ones getting stick here
 
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