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How's the White Cafu getting on then ?

CaptainCat

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Wasnt sure when we signed him for the fact I hadn't seen any of him, but has really impressed me by his performances, deserved his CC winners medal, been one of the players who havent put up their deckchair since that game, although he was shocking vs Liverpool.

Looking forward to seeing him progress next season

Hutton King Woodgate Bale

Nice !

To say the least. :lol:

He's been great overall. Let's hope stays that way.
 

pablo73

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Old Trafford supports 70k. Why the fuck would the rest go to Manchester then?

you are an embarrassment mate - Rangers fan, please rest assured most Tottenham fans are not as ignorant as this or Hans. It was at the City of Manchester stadium you monkey and there were 150-200 000 Rangers fans in the city as reported by BBC
 

tRiKS

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I think so far he's lived up to expectations defensively. He seems impossible to beat in one on one situataions and doesn't leave his possition exposed like chimbonda did. With the ball and going forward though he's found it trickier in England than he did in Scotland at beating 3 players on a run. He'll have to learn on average it's a little harder to weave through teams.

I hate Chimbonda so anyone that keeps him out the team is well worth 8m
 

Kendall

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Not amazing, but has all the attributes to be a top player. Clearly still struggling to get to grips with the league but he's a massive improvement on sleepbonda
 

we_all_loved_freund

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you are an embarrassment mate - Rangers fan, please rest assured most Tottenham fans are not as ignorant as this or Hans. It was at the City of Manchester stadium you monkey and there were 150-200 000 Rangers fans in the city as reported by BBC

I wouldn't say an embarrassment, but what I would say is that people shouldn't really comment on something they obviously have no real idea about, no matter how many posts they have to their name...
 

pablo73

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I wouldn't say an embarrassment, but what I would say is that people shouldn't really comment on something they obviously have no real idea about, no matter how many posts they have to their name...

fair enough, I just don't think it's cricket to have digs at Scotbear and his team when he's come on here in peace asking us about our opinions on an ex player of theirs. I'd like to think we're a bit better than that.

back to the subject, I completely concur with TRIKS - I hate Chimbonda as well so he's was always off to a good start in my book. i think he's been very good without being exceptional. he's been better than I expected defensively but not as effective going forward. Hope to see a lot more of him in the oppositions' final third next season as I feel that's where he will excel.
 

we_all_loved_freund

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fair enough, I just don't think it's cricket to have digs at Scotbear and his team when he's come on here in peace asking us about our opinions on an ex player of theirs. I'd like to think we're a bit better than that.

back to the subject, I completely concur with TRIKS - I hate Chimbonda as well so he's was always off to a good start in my book. i think he's been very good without being exceptional. he's been better than I expected defensively but not as effective going forward. Hope to see a lot more of him in the oppositions' final third next season as I feel that's where he will excel.

I completely agree, and I, along with probably a lot of people were cringing whilst reading both of the posts, just thought embarrassed was a bit of a strong word, but fair play for saying what a lot of people were probably thinking when reading them. :up:
 

Subarov

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I think so far he's lived up to expectations defensively. He seems impossible to beat in one on one situataions and doesn't leave his possition exposed like chimbonda did. With the ball and going forward though he's found it trickier in England than he did in Scotland at beating 3 players on a run. He'll have to learn on average it's a little harder to weave through teams.

I hate Chimbonda so anyone that keeps him out the team is well worth 8m

Can't agree with that. I'm in the corner of the Shelf where it meets the Park Lane so have borne close witness to him being a wee little bit skinned on a fair few occasions.
 

C0YS

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Hi, Rangers fan here. Just interested to know how Alan's getting on. :)

1. Performance He has preformed better then I expected he is better defencively then Chimbonda and has a better delivery, however Chimbonda is much better at beating his man.
2. Potential ? Its hard to tell, However he will (and has) improve has he gets used to are game
3. Value for money ? With modern day pricing It was good value for money (well about spot on in value) he cost 2m more then Chimbonda and is at least 2m better (and hes a lot younger)

He is deff top 4 material
 

joey55

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He is deff top 4 material

Chelsea have just bought a new RB, Utd and Liverpool are likely to in the summer, so we could find that the top 4 have rise the bar again by the end of the summer. I'd say Sagna is better than Hutton.
 

C0YS

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Chelsea have just bought a new RB, Utd and Liverpool are likely to in the summer, so we could find that the top 4 have rise the bar again by the end of the summer. I'd say Sagna is better than Hutton.

Sagna well about the same to me....my Arsenal freind keeps on going on about how overated he is...however cant really say, Chelsea have a new RB which is better (well prob.) Liverpool and Man utd have a worse RB (well Neville may of once been good (never fantastic) and Brown is a joke!!! an absulute joke how is he being selected for england).
 

karennina

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I'm beginning to agree with Keegan about chasing the top 4 - incremental victories like having a top 4 standard RB for 1/2 a season may be all that are possible against the aggregation of reputation upon extra cash upon reput...

It may indeed get very boring - look at the UK grocery market for football's future!
 

SpurSince57

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Pretty good, but I'm not convinced he's any great improvement over the Chimbonda we saw in the earlier part of last season.
 

ScotBear

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Glad to hear that Hutton is doing well. He might not be a Rangers player anymore, but he'll always be a Rangers man so I'll always hope that he does well for himself. And obviously, it's also good for the national team if he's playing well.

As for Spurs cracking the top 4.......it can definitely happen for you guys. Forget Newcastle, I like them as a club and their fans, but they don't have the structure in place like you guys have got. If the top 4 is to be broken, it will be Spurs that do it. Everton are also getting there, but I think they've hit a ceiling unless they get an injection of serious investment.

What do you need to get there ? You seem to have a defence in place that just needs more time to gel as a unit perhaps. Are Woodgate and King top 4 material and will they stay clear of injury ? If not, stay the hell away from Cuellar, losing Hutton is enough for now ! :wink:

Keeper......you need one. And again, you've been linked with our keeper, McGregor, in the Scottish press.

Midfield......this is where Spurs fall short for me. It's the key area, and I don't think you have it. Lennon can be great, but he'd be a squad player at other top 4 sides in my view. The same with Jenas. These types of guys are easy to keep going with because they have quality and are good enough to take you to a certain point......but if you want to go higher, I think you need to be ruthless in this area.

Up top......Berbatov is just class. I love watching him play. On form, he's got such a delicate touch, vision and a cool finisher. If you got offered crazy money, like £30m+, I might sell, but if not you have to keep him. He's a gem, and he'll only get better and more consistent with higher quality players around him.

(F.A.O Pablo and we-love-freund.....cheers guys)
 

C0YS

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Glad to hear that Hutton is doing well. He might not be a Rangers player anymore, but he'll always be a Rangers man so I'll always hope that he does well for himself. And obviously, it's also good for the national team if he's playing well.

As for Spurs cracking the top 4.......it can definitely happen for you guys. Forget Newcastle, I like them as a club and their fans, but they don't have the structure in place like you guys have got. If the top 4 is to be broken, it will be Spurs that do it. Everton are also getting there, but I think they've hit a ceiling unless they get an injection of serious investment.

What do you need to get there ? You seem to have a defence in place that just needs more time to gel as a unit perhaps. Are Woodgate and King top 4 material and will they stay clear of injury ? Yes they are top 4 material however we need another class CB because they will always suffer from injuries but Daws is by no means the end of the world If not, stay the hell away from Cuellar, losing Hutton is enough for now ! :wink:

Keeper......you need one we need 2 Robbo is good enough but needs a mass confidence injection that wont happen. He will be a decent cover tho'. And again, you've been linked with our keeper, McGregor, in the Scottish press.

Midfield......this is where Spurs fall short for me we all agree with you their. It's the key area, and I don't think you have it. Lennon can be great, but he'd be a squad player at other top 4 sides in my view. The same with Jenas. they are too inconsistent for top 4 you are right These types of guys are easy to keep going with because they have quality and are good enough to take you to a certain point......but if you want to go higher, I think you need to be ruthless in this area. Steed (who is fantastic) and Zok can both stay as squad players. But now we Modric the situation will improve now all we need is a DM

Up top......Berbatov is just class. I love watching him play. On form, he's got such a delicate touch, vision and a cool finisher. If you got offered crazy money, like £30m+, I might sell, but if not you have to keep him. He's a gem, and he'll only get better and more consistent with higher quality players around him. I think it depends on him DONT underate Keano by any means tho' especially with the yearly roumours of him being a Celtic player next season (which aint gonna happen)

(F.A.O Pablo and we-love-freund.....cheers guys)

OH and cheers for coming, come and visit anytime :wink:
 

Caboose

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For the swipes at Rangers from people I'm sorry about that as it was a thread about a player so why the need for that I don't know. I sit next to a guy at work and he's a life long Rangers fan, impossible to understand half the time ;), but his enthusiasm for them has rubbed off onto me so was a bit gutted Wednesday, but well done, you got further than we could!!

As for Hutton, I've not seen him live but do watch the majority of our matches on the internet and I wasn't keen to sign him for the price we did and after him rejecting us. But his play has impressed me, probably because he started so well. I then looked at the initial rejections of our offers in a different light and realised that he's a committed player to a team and one who wants to show loyalty which in itself is a big virtue to have in a player.

As to what we need, Keeper yes as we have now lost Cerny, but as a wise head on here who speaks a lot of sense (SS57) keeps reitterating, we've had such a disrupted 4 infront of Robbo that that's probably not helped him through his difficult period. Woodgate and King are most definitely top 4 material, but can we rely on them to be available for a season? Evidence so far says no. If we could week in week out have Bale-King-Woodgate-Hutton line up we'd be fine with not bolstering this, Dawson is great cover and I really rate Kaboul to go on to be one of the best defenders in the world.. he's just very raw. So really just need cover for left back. If King is gonna be crocked again then we'll need a new centre back to partner Woodgate.

Up front if we keep berba is fine, maybe just an old pro coming to the end of his career but with quality to add depth (a Viduka of sorts) would be great.

Midfield is a hard one to answer because it most defiitely is the weak area and everyone on here agrees a rock is needed, but who to get is hard as it's a bit uncertain as to how we'll play next season and that in turn affects who we should buy. We've got Modric who I've not really seen play but he is highly thought of. From what I've heard he's more of central player than a wide player, I rate Jenas but them in the middle together wouldn't improve us as we're great with the ballgoing forward it's breaking up the play and dominating is where we're lacking. Only time will tell, but that's where I'm hoping the investment will be.

Sorry I've not actualily given any answers, and kinda just repeated what you said, but welcome aboard, and hope that Spurs grow in your heart. Please stick around this forum as it's nice to hear views from everyone.
 

michaelden

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Hutton has impressed me hugely. I think he's just what we need now. I guess the Cafu comparisson is to his stamia and getting forward both he does well. A bit more time linking up with Lennon and their partnership could get better.

I do think he will not be as good as Sagna in a year or 2. They are possibly on a par now. SpursKing was right about Sagna, the kid is very very good.

Cuellar was awesome in the Uefa final. He impressed me. We could do a swap, Cuellar for Dawson + cash.
 
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