Hudd & Livermore: On Spurs and Levy

[kursaal]

Hope this isnt breaking rules. Couldn't put it in the news but thought it might be of interest as if you can read between the lines about life at Spurs.

http://www.thfclatest.com/2014/11/23/tom-huddlestone-youd-want-levy-running-your-business/

 

[spursfan77]

Cheers for that. Interesting interview for sure.

 

[ClintEastwould]

Haven't watched much of jake since he left but I thought he played very well in Harry's last season whenever he came on.

As for their comments on spurs, I thought this was interesting:

TH: In his four years, we finished fourth twice and fifth once. I think clubs get above their station a little bit. Realistically, him finishing fourth for Tottenham is a great achievement. They can’t really be expecting to finish in the top two or three. It was a strange one.

JL: Redknapp gave me my first breakthrough, so for that I will always be thankful. He was a great man-manager – sometimes I think the game can be over-thought.

But it was the same with Tim Sherwood. He brought players back from the dead almost and spent no money. But sometimes if you are outspoken and your face doesn’t fit, It’s not good enough for the board at Tottenham."

It seems like he's implying Harry/Tim were sacked for potentially non footballing reasons and I can only find myself agreeing. It seems levy loves a smooth talking continental manager that preaches philosophy and dimensions over better results and smart ass London geezas. Not good for sponsors? Who knows. But interesting nonetheless.

 

[shelfboy68]

If Harry had stepped out of Line and deserved to be sacked then fair enough but since he went the appointments leave a lot to be desired including the current one.
I just wish We would do Our homework properly and not get someone who had one or two good months crazy.

 

[Syn_13]

Two things I'm mostly picking up from this:

DID THE CONSTANT MANAGERIAL CHANGES MAKE IT HARD TO ESTABLISH YOURSELF IN THE SPURS SIDE, ESPECIALLY AS A YOUNG BRITISH PLAYER?

TH: I went there when I was 18 and it can be a tough club to get yourself established at. When results aren’t going for you they are not going to stick a teenager in and run with it, they are going to play more senior players or ones who are on the higher wages, to keep the chairman happy.

Am I thinking too much into that very last bit? Does make me worry just how much influence Levy has over who the manager picks.

IS IT RIGHT THAT SOME FANS ARE NOW STARTING TO POINT THE FINGER AT LEVY?

TH: If you owned a business you’d like him to run it for you!

JL: Every club is run differently and I’ve realised that now I’ve come here. Hull is family-orientated. The manager will come and talk to you and have a laugh with you, and at the same time there is a mutual respect where you are out on the pitch and do your job. I think Tottenham have lost that a little bit. Even little things like the training ground – It has almost become too big.

Again, perhaps over thinking it, but maybe this is a contributory factor as to why we don't look like we're playing with as much heart as we used to. Trying to simulate being a really big club with a very clean cut, professional approach that lacks a bit of soul.

 

[Gilzeanking]

Yes , I agree with Syn 13 above ...keep the chairman happy ...... bit ominous for those speculating on his interference in playing matters .

Another quote in a good interview was the Poch comment

'From what I hear he is very intense and they train an awful lot and maybe the team is not used to that.'

This fits in with the widespread view that Poch's system only works if the players make the effort and so they need to make that effort in training . This, our Spurs squad ,is very unwilling to do (as many before them). Its a straight clash between Poch and players .The key for Poch is to try and carrot and stick them into upping their effort and is why things look grim at the mo because it seems he's not got them on his side . We're losing these days so we have to consider whether the players will ever be . Ramos had this effort prob and Tim was publicly vocal about it . There's no doubt it exists .

Meaning , we either change players or manager . Hmmm

 

[JimmyG2]

Meaning , we either change players or manager . Hmmm

Haven't we tried both over many years?

 

[StartingPrice]

Dunno bout dis.

The Thudd stuff sounds like the type of thing an immature mind might think: He's 18, can't get in the team because of mature, established stars so it's down to the manager having to keep the Chairman happy. Nah, don't buy it...and I seriously doubt any manager would have said to any player ever look, son, I'd like to play you, I really would, but it's the chairman, see, I have to play x, y, z just to keeping him happy because he is on bigger wages, see. Besides, the fact that Pochettino came in and immediately stuck Mason in over more established, bigger name players who are no doubt on bigger wages seems to belie this belief of his.

As for Livermore. I'm sorry, but the fact is that once a team gets beyond a certain level the manager/head coach really does seem to have some tactical nous as well as man management skills and the ability to get players to play with enthusiasm off their initiative. Mr Redknapp had the latter two skills but, by his own admission (see the employment of Ghodd at QPR) isn't the best at tactics. We were fine up to a point under him, he had us playing some great stuff and some exciting nights and memories. He probably had most of the team playing as well as they could short of playing with tactically nous. But then he was shown up a bit. Even yesterday, watching them at St. James's you could see the same old Redknapp foibles in play. We get the ball, we attack, you get the ball, you attack, and we will be totally open because we didn't think about anything but a cavalry charge attack when we were attacking.

Sure there is a bit of truth in what they say, but nothing as profound or revelatory as some would wish.

 

[SpursManChris]

Hope this isnt breaking rules. Couldn't put it in the news but thought it might be of interest as if you can read between the lines about life at Spurs.

http://www.thfclatest.com/2014/11/23/tom-huddlestone-youd-want-levy-running-your-business/

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[thinktank]

TH: If you owned a business you’d like him to run it for you!

Fucking cuss.

I bet he said that with a little knowing smirk on his face.

 

[danielneeds]

Two average players with average mentalities. Train an awful lot - what 4 flipping hours a day? You should be begging the manager to work more and improve.

 

[thinktank]

Two average players with average mentalities. Train an awful lot - what 4 flipping hours a day? You should be begging the manager to work more and improve.

JL: Every club is run differently and I’ve realised that now I’ve come here. Hull is family-orientated. The manager will come and talk to you and have a laugh with you, and at the same time there is a mutual respect where you are out on the pitch and do your job. I think Tottenham have lost that a little bit. Even little things like the training ground – It has almost become too big.

Looks like Jake has found his level.

No ambition.

 

[Chris12]

The training ground has become to big? What

 

[thinktank]

The training ground has become to big? What

Just confirms we made the right decision to flog the guy.

 

[beats1]

The training ground has become to big? What

Just confirms we made the right decision to flog the guy.

He clearly means it in relation to the atmosphere around the club but if you guys want to knock him continue

Two average players with average mentalities. Train an awful lot - what 4 flipping hours a day? You should be begging the manager to work more and improve.

Livermore is a PL because he trains hard because he was the least talented player we had but it was his mentality in training that got him in around our team since his performances weren't as good as the others

 

[thinktank]

He clearly means it in relation to the atmosphere around the club but if you guys want to knock him continue

Livermore is a PL because he trains hard because he was the least talented player we had but it was his mentality in training that got him in around our team since his performances weren't as good as the others

What's the training ground got to do with the atmosphere at the lane though?

Having a super deluxe training ground shows aspiration and intention.

Anyway, I'm sure he's now happy at a club where the fans post-match concerns - after a defeat - is the lack of mobility of the ball boys.

 

[beats1]

What's the training ground got to do with the atmosphere at the lane though?

Having a super deluxe training ground shows aspiration and intention.

Anyway, I'm sure he's now happy now at a club where the fans post match concerns - after a defeat - is the lack of mobility of the ball boys.

JL: Every club is run differently and I’ve realised that now I’ve come here. Hull is family-orientated. The manager will come and talk to you and have a laugh with you, and at the same time there is a mutual respect where you are out on the pitch and do your job. I think Tottenham have lost that a little bit. Even little things like the training ground – It has almost become too big.

He is talking about the atmosphere around the club not the ground and how Hull feels more closer and is more like a family whereas Spurs isn't. Which as Syn says lost a bit of its soul in the process which is likely to happen abit with the new stadium

 

[jonathanhotspur]

Fucking cuss.

I bet he said that with a little knowing smirk on his face.

Dave Whelan's been hauled over the fucking coals for saying the very same thing. Just how does Hudd get away with this?

 

[ClintEastwould]

JL: Every club is run differently and I’ve realised that now I’ve come here. Hull is family-orientated. The manager will come and talk to you and have a laugh with you, and at the same time there is a mutual respect where you are out on the pitch and do your job. I think Tottenham have lost that a little bit. Even little things like the training ground – It has almost become too big.

He is talking about the atmosphere around the club not the ground and how Hull feels more closer and is more like a family whereas Spurs isn't. Which as Syn says lost a bit of its soul in the process which is likely to happen abit with the new stadium

Exactly. It was a bit tongue in cheek regarding the loss of club identity

 

[thinktank]

JL: Every club is run differently and I’ve realised that now I’ve come here. Hull is family-orientated. The manager will come and talk to you and have a laugh with you, and at the same time there is a mutual respect where you are out on the pitch and do your job. I think Tottenham have lost that a little bit. Even little things like the training ground – It has almost become too big.

He is talking about the atmosphere around the club not the ground and how Hull feels more closer and is more like a family whereas Spurs isn't. Which as Syn says lost a bit of its soul in the process which is likely to happen abit with the new stadium

It's bollocks.

If we'd have kept him he'd be wanking off about the training centre like everyone else.