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I cant beileve there is people who still wish we had Sherwood.....

SoulDog

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My mate who loves Sherwood and thinks he is better than Poch saying Poch has done no better than Sherwood just sent me this:


This should make interesting reading for you both. You like to use Arsenal as a benchmark, well Spurs were not the only team to get thrashed by title chasers that season. In 22 games Wenger got 2 more points than Sherwood, the same as the current gap, same number of wins 13 but 2 extra draws. Spurs got spanked by W Ham, City and Liverpool under AVB that season before Sherwood came in so more to do with playing personnel I think, we signed 7 players with no prem experience that summer. The 5-1 loss to City Rose gave away a dubious penalty in 50th minute with score 1-0 to City and was sent off which was later rescinded by the FA, Dawson also had a goal disallowed which replay showed was onside also with score at 1-0, could say slightly unfortunate. The 4-0 loss to Chelsea was very close until in 56th minute Vertonghen slipped and tried to pass it towards Lloris but actually played in Eto’o to score one on one. 4 minutes later Chelsea were awarded a dubious penalty for a foul by Kaboul who was sent off which again was rescinded by FA, again a bit unlucky, Chelsea scored 2 more with Spurs down to 10 in 88th and 89th minutes, Sandro being a cock I seem to recall. Currently Spurs have 42 points from 23 games. Sherwood accumulated the same number of points in one less game. This was in his first job as manager inheriting a disjointed team that had just been thrashed 5-1 at home to Liverpool mid season, 7 new signings with no prem experience, no transfer window himself, no pre season and a crippling injury list. 2 years down the line with 2 pre seasons, several transfer windows, backing of fans and chairman we are no better off points wise yet in both your opinions Sherwood was massively incompetent and Poch is doing an amazing job. These are the facts.

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Spurs, sherwood came in at week 17

Arsenal


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Spurs were already 8 points behind arsenal when sherwood took over.



We have been having many debates about it.

He said

Thats opinion, im talking about facts. Beat teams he should have done?? How many draws this season against teams we should beat?? He beat them, got the points. My point is loads of people are waxing lyrical about Poch yet slagged Sherwood when the facts are Poch has done no better with more opportunity. Fact not opinion.



What do you guys think. I think its aload of rubbish, we was doing alright under AVB when he got sacked, Sherwood was given the job which he should not have and done an OK job in a short time but was tactically not good enough, we would never be where we are now with Sherwood. I need some good responses to shut up him up cause he just wont listen to me..
 
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HildoSpur

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Your friend - I gotta admire his complete and utter refusal to see what is in front of him, it really is first class.
 

For the love of Spurs

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Never hated Sherwood like many Spurs fans, he was just playing his hand and trying his dream of management and he wasn't totally awful, well I enjoyed his football more than AVB but that's hardly a complement.

That being said the structure, development and improvement not just in results but above all performance is there for all too see. Poch has done amazing work and we are luck to have him.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Since what OP actually requests are responds to send to his shite friend, I can think of two responses:

"Sherwood increased the gap to top 4 during his 22 too many matches. If he was better than the top 4 managers that season, he would have decreased the gap, but he didn't, so he could never have sealed a top 4 spot. Pohcettino thus far this season has not only cut the gap but navigated us into top 4."

"Just the fact that Sherwood and his fans must come up with twisted lies to defend him is proof enough he was useless."
 

SoulDog

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Here are a few other things he has just said in our debate:

No. Sherwood has the better record whether u thought he was a master tactician or not.

I dont care, he has less points!!!!!!

The direct comparison is now. For the last time, he is doing no better!!!

I'm done talking to u about football cos u base everything on ur opinion, not the facts.




It's really annoying me as I am enjoying watching us and this is the real first time I feel confident most game's now, I have not really felt like that before, we have seen what Poch has done this season and its showing, obviously there is still work to be done and we know Poch is not tactically right all the time with his subs and being able to switch formation when other managers do etc but I am enjoying being a spurs fan at the moment and there is alot you got to give him credit for..
 
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Shadydan

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To be honest with you you shouldn't even be entertaining the argument, if anyone is still arguing the case for someone incompetent as Sherwood who has been sacked from 2 Premiership jobs then you might as well just walk away and let him argue with himself.
 

CornerPinDreamer

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Here are a few other things he has just said in our debate:

No. Sherwood has the better record whether u thought he was a master tactician or not.

I dont care, he has less points!!!!!!

The direct comparison is now. For the last time, he is doing no better!!!

I'm done talking to u about football cos u base everything on ur opinion, not the facts.




It's really annoying me as I am enjoying watching us and this is the real first time I feel confident most game's now, I have not really felt like that before, we have seen what Poch has done this season and its showing, obviously there is still work to be done and we know Poch is not tactically right all the time with his subs and being able to switch formation when other managers do etc but I am enjoying being a spurs fan at the moment and there is alot you got to give him credit for..


admit it, you friend is actually Tactical Timmy himself?
 

Geyzer Soze

Fearlessly the idiot faced the crowd
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To be honest with you you shouldn't even be entertaining the argument, if anyone is still arguing the case for someone incompetent as Sherwood who has been sacked from 2 Premiership jobs then you might as well just walk away and let him argue with himself.
Yeah. Or fucking with you which I rather suspect this may be :cool:
 

TwanYid

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Tbh- and while I was glad to see the back of Sherwood- your friend does have a point. It was Tim Sherwood- not Poch- who broke the pungent, stagnant mold of "buy mediocre-to-shit-foreign-players-and-then-act-shocked-when-they-don't-do-well-in-the-Prem" and instead said "fuck it- I'm going youth...Nabil, Harry, Ryan- get in there." Sorry but that had never been done before- at least not in my time (15 years) of watching Spurs- and sorry but that counts for something. I remember absolutely loving watching young kids from the academy getting minutes- whereas now it's practically a given. That, my friends, is down to Sherwood.

Would I have him over Poch? Fuck no. But I don't think he was quite the disaster some make him out to be.
 

Riandor

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I'm sorry, but the only thing Tim did was to bring Adebayour back in from the cold and excellerated the integration of players who we had all been crying out for... we went on a run, but frankly we were still pretty average despite some encouraging results.

When the big boys showed up we got hammered, with the exception of United, who themselves were transitioning.

What the tables don't show is what was going on in the background, what was the cost to the long term health of Spurs and that is something Poch and Levy deserve credit for. They've ripped it up and are outperforming the squad full of internationals with what were mainly kids.

This squad is as fit as I've ever seen them and harmonious, any dissent and you're out. By all accounts tim's background management was appalling, no I do t have facts, but eyes should not lie. This team is miles better and has the chance to go places. The previous was at its peak and frankly pretty poor with the odd individual performance.

Tim essentially tinkered with an existing squad that should have been fighting top four and got some results, but he had little clue on how to build a team, Villa highlighted that.
 
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