If we win against Man Utd .....

[Destroyer]

Might we just, for the first time in 20 years be considered very outsiders for the title?

I'm 36 years old & have come to accept that i doubt that in my lifetime Spurs will ever win the league, though anything is possible ??

But i do think we will qualify for the Champions League at some stage.

 

[RobinLeonard]

It's not just about doing well against the top 4. We only lost 2 of 8 games against all of them last season. It's about not slipping up against the other 15 teams.

So far so good but there's an awful long way to go.

That sort of thing goes hand in hand though, doesn't it? If we can beat Man U and Liverpool our confidence will grow and the other teams will be afraid to face us.

We did get alot of points against the top 4 last season but that was perceived as the classic Tottenham 'on their day they can beat anyone' If we can get 15 from 15 and record wins over Man U and Liverpool people will start looking at us with a 'most days they will beat anyone'

It's still way too early to get carried away but if we can keep winning... anything can happen.

 

[Bulletspur]

Tomorrow is only the fifth, I repeat fitfh, game of the season. Far too early to even be thinking about such lofty aspirations.

Remember, we are Tottenham (albeit super Tottenham) and in the 42 years I've been following the team every time talk of winning the league, or even getting into the CL, rears it's ugly head, it all goes to hell in a hand cart.

Let's just enjoy the ride that 'Arry is taking us on and see where it takes us.

A much needed dose of rationality and reality! :clap:

 

[Rob]

We're nailed on to lose. Badly. :-(

 

[N17Jack]

That sort of thing goes hand in hand though, doesn't it? If we can beat Man U and Liverpool our confidence will grow and the other teams will be afraid to face us.

We did get alot of points against the top 4 last season but that was perceived as the classic Tottenham 'on their day they can beat anyone' If we can get 15 from 15 and record wins over Man U and Liverpool people will start looking at us with a 'most days they will beat anyone'

It's still way too early to get carried away but if we can keep winning... anything can happen.

No honestly if you keep winning anything cant happen, you would simply win the league.:shrug:

 

[Dr Know]

I still think we can win the PL if not this time, sometime soon ( I await the neg rep again)

Man U lost 4 drawn 6 and won the PL
My guess is we might well be more feared than Man Shitty by the top half teams and thats a boost to the boys and can also play on the mind of the oponent. While the red nose drunk's team talk will be "boys this is going to be a tough game, so if we come away with a point then its a good result" Harry's team talk would be "Boys..................well what can I say just do what your doing and the 3 points are in the bag!"

I don't support Spurs just to stay up or finish top half or even make Europe/CL, I support Spurs to win the PL and as much as I think some games are harder I still back my team to win. I just don't get some fans who go to the games with a draw or "we won't win this one" attitude. I honestly believe win can win today and I'm going for a 1-0 to us

COYS

 

[chkthfc82]

i think we may come crashing down to earth today which will then test our character.

had it all our own way so far so it will be interesting what sort of reaction we get after we do lose a game or two?

 

[spur_souljah]

we need to be consistent, in the past we've had good spells and then bad spells so as long as we are consistent (consistently good) the top 4 is a great possibility.. we are capable of beating anyone in the league imo its just down to whether they have the determination and work ethic.
COYS!!

 

[NEVILLEB]

If we had another Palacios in the middle I'd give us an outside chance

Otherwise Huddlestone and Jenas are too inconsistent

 

[mil1lion]

No doubt if we win today then everyone will be talking about top 4 again. But not the title, no.

 

[Raxscallion]

I do not know how much poultry I have and I refuse to find out.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Wow, 4 league wins out of 4 league games and people are still being negative. Have Spurs put us through so much that as a collective fanbase we are so emotionally scarred that we've forgotten how to be optimistic and ride the crest of a wave just a little?

As unlikely as it is that we will win the league, there should not be a single Spurs fan who hasn't got a sneaking, bubbling, childish hope that this could be a special year where we not only break the top four, but we go beyond that and astound everybody.

99.99999% we will not win the league, and breaking the top 4 is still going to be bloody difficult too, but after the start we made, especially if we manage to beat Man U today, I am going to be more than happy to let myself get carried away and enjoy the drama that ensues, even if it ends in heartbreak, because at least I won't have kidded myself and I'd have emoted properly rather than deny the true feelings that Spurs bring out.

For goodness sake, when we were top after the first group of games in Hoddle's first season I imagine that people where getting ahead of themselves, and that team had Les Ferdinand and Teddy Sheringham up front with a combined age of 7,000,000, a midfield that was lightyears behind what we have at the moment, and a defence that had Bunjevcevic and Chris Perry as regulars.

Come on guys, why be negative when all the signs are positive. It's a far more interesting existence if to be dissappointed as a result of optimism than it is to just expect the worst and then get it.

 

[AngerManagement]

I don't feel that I am being negative by saying we will not be in the title race if we win today.

I am delighted with the start we have made, if we win today I will be delerious.

That doesn't change the fact that in my opinion we will still have no chance of winning the league this year or even being involved in the title race, thats just what I think.

It isn't negativity as I believe pushing for the top four (especially if we can make the top four) would be an amazing season, the start we have made has put us in a very strong postion to challange for a top four place and if we win today even more so. I am very positive about the start we have made, obviously not as positive as those who think we are in the title race, but it's how I see the game rather than negativity that brings me to that conclusion.

Top four would be outstanding for us this year, keep that goal insight because it will be a difficult one to achieve.

People start talking about title races, this assumes top four is almost a given and devaules the task at hand. Leading to negativity in itself i.e. people would be dissapointed with a top four finish if they expect title challanges and even more so if we only finish top 6 (which would still be a great season) putting pressure on the team as feel good factors can turn quickly when people get ahead of themselves.

I seen our own fans booing the team many times now, something I can't stand. I really fear that the fickle element of our support (a minority I am sure) would turn on the team quickly when this current run comes to an end as their perception of reality would have been shifted by the glorious start and their expectations of the team become unreasonable.

I don't want to see support dwindle if the club is not challanging for the title, I already had to sit amoungst plenty of fans moaning and criticing the players after Birmingham equalised and went on to have a decent spell followed by a mass exodus of supporters with 10 plus mins to go.

So if some fans are turning on the club at one one in a game we still won to maintain our 100% start what will they do when we drop out of this title race we arent even (in my opinion) acually in ?

 

[tommyt]

we are the marcus of the bb house

:rofl:

What? Daft t*ats with mullets - I think not.

:grin:

 

[tommyt]

We're nailed on to lose. Badly. :-(

Is that ITK????


:razz:


BBLG - I was going to rep you after the first paragraph - how true - unfortunitely i have to spread it about like some sort of dirt bird.


If we can enjoy success whats the point??

We'll give Utd a game today, and if we take our chances we'll beat them.

Positive Mental Attitude Folks.

 

[walworthyid]

If we win we will be considered outsiders for the title whether we like it or not! We are a long way from that level imo but as I have said elsewhere our form since the turn of the year really isn't a million liles away from title winning form in all fairness. Also when I think back to games we have lost in that time that we would almost certainly win now; Blackburn away, Bolton away etc extrapolated over the season takes us to somewhere around 78 pts!

If we can keep this team together with a couple of additions and continue to progress then we could be looking at a genuine push for the title in a couple of seasons.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

I just think it is far more enjoyable, even with heartbreak at the end, to forget about being realistic and just go nuts about things.

 

[eViL]

Chelski are setting the standard so far IMO. It'd be great beating UTD but they're just not as good as last season. Although I'm starting love the fact that Lennon has torn Evra so many new arseholes the last few encounters he's starting to look like Spongebob Squarepants.

Can we win the League? At this stage of the season ANYONE can.

 

[AngerManagement]

I would love us to be in the title race of course.

But think it is far too early to be thinking about such things much less start getting carried away. Where do you draw the line? yes it would be 5 wins out of 5 but 5 wins is nothing, it's almost as bad as saying Burnley were outsiders because they beat the champions in the second game of the season (and then justifying it by saying that is title contender form) *ok an extreme example but no more outrageous really)


I have no problem with our fans getting carried away with the hype and early success if they find it more enjoyable, so long as it does not revert to angry and moaning/booing when we fail to maintain this form.

As I said, at the Birmingham game I could here the poeple around me talking about how great we were first half, yet when it was 1-1 and we lost control of the match I heard many people saying we were shit, or x/y/z player is shit and 90% of those around left long before we actually won the game.

Maybe 10% of those had vaild reasons for leaving, but I am certain most were leaving in disgust that we were not beating Birmingham at home (an example of the expectations being rasied by early success and fans becoming discontent and not supporting the club when we dip below the excellent form)

 

[BringBack_leGin]

I share your frustration at the early exodus every week, it riles me no end.

And I also agree that people who switch from positive to negative in an instant need to grow up a bit.

I would be delighted to nab 5th this season personally.

I just think that it's a bit of a shame if, after 5 wins (if we win today) that include last seasons top 2, we can't become a little over excited and think 'hell yeah, this is going to be it'.

If we win today, and then even if we lose to Chelsea, the rest of the matches (assuming that anything can happen in the heated derby at the Emirates) untill the mid way point are matches in which you could reasonably expect us to win in any season. A win today will go a long way to seeing us withing touching distance of the top at christmas, so long as this really is a new spurs and not the same old false dawn side. I for one think that is reason for premature excitement, and when the likelyhood of my wrongness comes to fruition, I will be proud to be wrong.