Ilaix Moriba

[tiger666]

It’s not that I’m bitter!! Why would I be bitter? I just know we’ve a gapping hole up top that’s needed filling for years and once again we will be left short. So wanting 150k for goals is too much but paying 120k for some kid is practical?

Why has it now gone up to £120k? I very much doubt we'll ever hear the correct wage/bonuses involved in the deal as it's all private anyway so just ignore it.

 

[$hoguN]

I think we are also missing the point. We won’t be paying a base rate of £100k a week. We will split in between signing on bonuses and performance related incentives like it’s always reported that we do for players like a Kane etc

 

[piedpiper]

I don't really care about any of that. £100k a week, £20k a week, it's all insane money for a teenager. All I care about is getting the best young players in Europe to Spurs. Those players will sometimes cost a lot, whether in transfer fees or wages.

Fair enough i understand your thinking on this one.

 

[totty]

So apparently we wouldn’t pay ings 125k a week who will score 15 goals a year and able to play with and cover Kane but we will pay a kid who could drop either way?? About sums us up tbf. What happened to the thinking of one striker in/ 2 if Kane moves on anyway?

While I agree that Ings would represent a good 2nd striker option at £25m and £125k a week for the short term, that is circa £45m over a 3 year contract with no value back.

Putting on Levy’s hat, spending £125k a week and £20m on Moriba over 4 years is £46m.

And if by the 2nd or 3rd year, he works out to be a success, we might be possibly able to flip him for £70m to £80m which works out to be over 100% return.

Guess thats why we are going down the wonderkid route now as Paratici’s remit

#Levynomics

 

[Chirpystheman]

Also paying ings 150k a week to sit on the bench and play ECL matches isn't wise. Age and injury record (which isn't as bad as some make out) is not on his side. We could have had the same debate about Callum Wilson the year before. He scored goals at Newcastle and is scoring goals this season. The point is we now have a football man in charge of the transfer business. Of we were run properly as a club we would have probably cashed in on Dier and Dele when their stock was at the highest. Successful clubs sell at the right time and improve the squad as a whole. Not keep and stagnate. 30m + 150k a week with no sell on is a far worst deal than 15m + 100k a week when the kid could go on to be worth 60-100m maybe more.

 

[piedpiper]

Not his fault and you don’t actually know the figures. To me all I’ve seen are training videos of someone working really hard on different aspects of his game. Don’t know if it’s his own time but it shows a commitment to being the best. If that starts to come true he’ll have even more thrown at him. You can talk ethical morally whether that’s acceptable but the individual will be the difference in how it effects them. Think for most footballers the ego is already going to be there the moneys part of the trappings.

Yes I don't know the numbers and im merely responding on whats been reported In here . Still think if true its an obscene amount for a youngster. But let's not get hung up on that as tiger666 says let's focus on securing the best available young talent. It will however comeback to bite us.

 

[$hoguN]

While I agree that Ings would represent a good 2nd striker option at £25m and £125k a week for the short term, that is circa £45m over a 3 year contract with no value back.

Putting on Levy’s hat, spending £125k a week and £20m on Moriba over 4 years is £46m.

And if by the 2nd or 3rd year, he works out to be a success, we might be possibly able to flip him for £70m to £80m which works out to be over 100% return.

Guess thats why we are going down the wonderkid route now as Paratici’s remit

#Levynomics

Levy isn’t involved in the transfers as it keeps being said this summer, so can we all stop talking about what makes sense to Levy as it’s actually what makes sense to our leadership team including Fab, Hitchen and Nuno.

 

[SpursTillIDie1882]

Lol. Love that last bit ?. I won’t bite tho as on my last life on here. Our transfers are key to getting back into the cl. Signing multiple 18 year olds with potential won’t get us back in this year or next. And I was discussing wages of players. Regardless of what position they play. Is your weekend name mystic Meg by the weekend? How on earth do you think ings is 80% gonna crock it ?. Now that is a stupid thing to say. Any player is one tackle away from ending their career pal.

Dude, you aint worth it, im not sure what your on, your chatting breeze ????but you aint worth my energy to reply or convince ... no common sense your off on an agenda which dont even make sense, good luck too you ... laters

 

[Yantino]

I would like to think that we have learned from the Ndombele fiasco and we do our homework on the personality, desire and attitude of the players we sign, not just on their footballing ability. Especially youngsters like this. I don’t mind him being paid a good weekly wage if he’s worth it and his attitude is right.

 

[hellava_tough]

Agree with you, so paying Ings £150k a week to bang in goals is fair? So why didn’t we do the deal? Because we want Traore to not score and probably pay him the same? And get an 18 year old on a 4 year contract on £100k a week then more than likely say we can’t shift him in 2 years as he’s on too much money?

It's certainly a risk, no doubt.

As a poster above says, the club may think it's a risk worth taking because if the kid lives up to expectations, not only will he bring financial rewards to us through success on the pitch, he can be sold for a huge fee in the future.

And if he's simply a 'good' player, who for whatever reason we want to shift, £100k a week isn't really that far off what most 'good' PL players are on.

But, yeah, it's a risk.

 

[gibbospurs]

Why has it now gone up to £120k? I very much doubt we'll ever hear the correct wage/bonuses involved in the deal as it's all private anyway so just ignore it.

Well some are quoting figures of anything between 100 k and 130k? That may not bother you now but as we’ve seen with ndombele it’s a massive issue when we want shot of them as clubs won’t match their wages.

 

[SuperLuka]

While I agree that Ings would represent a good 2nd striker option at £25m and £125k a week for the short term, that is circa £45m over a 3 year contract with no value back.

Putting on Levy’s hat, spending £125k a week and £20m on Moriba over 4 years is £46m.

And if by the 2nd or 3rd year, he works out to be a success, we might be possibly able to flip him for £70m to £80m which works out to be over 100% return.

Guess thats why we are going down the wonderkid route now as Paratici’s remit

#Levynomics

Ings is on 150k

Absolutely no chance we pay Moriba anything like 125k so this conversation is pointless

 

[worcestersauce]

I don't give a fuck what wages we pay for any particular player, I figure we have people at the club who deal with that and if that's what they think it's worth paying for a player then ok.

 

[gibbospurs]

Ings who is as injury prone as our own chocolate ankle forward, and is 29.

I don’t know how you can’t see that’s completely different.

I also wouldn’t pay too much attention - ever - to the amounts of transfer fees and wages you see on the internet.

He might be 29 but he covers everything we need covering and more. We need cover and competition up top.

 

[muel]

If you're good enough, you're old enough and your pay should reflect that, relevant to the market.

I'm sure if someone offered us Foden/Bellingham we'd be happy to pay them £100k upwards.

The horse has well and truly bolted in terms of concerns about pay in football

 

[gibbospurs]

I don't give a fuck what wages we pay for any particular player, I figure we have people at the club who deal with that and if that's what they think it's worth paying for a player then ok.

Until we want shot of them?? Aurier, winks, sissoko n’dombele the list goes on. We can’t shift them because their weekly wages are too high for their current stature in the game. It means our club. Spurs. Our team we support can’t progress!!! How can you not care? So bloody short sighted.

 

[Nayim60yards]

I forsee problems when you throw that much in front of a guy bakery out of his teens.

It sounds like it's gonna be a bun fight for his signature whatever happens. I just hope we have the dough to make it happen because he wants a big piece of the pie. If we don't sign him after this chase that would take the biscuit, but I guess we can't always have our cake and eat it.

 

[hughy]

If you're good enough, you're old enough and your pay should reflect that, relevant to the market.

I'm sure if someone offered us Foden/Bellingham we'd be happy to pay them £100k upwards.

The horse has well and truly bolted in terms of concerns about pay in football

Difference is both of them have at least 2 years first-team football in domestic competitions, have played in the Champions League, and are full internationals.

Moriba has only made about 15 appearances for Barca at the back end of last season, so I can understand why there would be concerns about us hiring him on a huge way, him not doing as well as we'd hoped, and effectively end up paying £125k for a reserve player for 4 years because no one wants to buy him on those wages.

I know it's a lazy comparison but we all thought dos Santos would be an absolute world-beater when we signed him from Barca, thankfully we didn't pay over the odds for him.

 

[Nayim60yards]

Until we want shot of them?? Aurier, winks, sissoko n’dombele the list goes on. We can’t shift them because their weekly wages are too high for their current stature in the game. It means our club. Spurs. Our team we support can’t progress!!! How can you not care? So bloody short sighted.

But we literally sold Sissoko two days ago!

 

[Amo]

But we literally sold Sissoko two days ago!

Yeah but did we shift him?