Isn't it desperately sad

[loyalyid]

I am sure that now the dust has settled after yet another demoralizing defeat, that we must all feel so desperately sad that the mood of the club has turned from incredible optimism in the summer, to such despair, that we are already discussing the possible beheading of our new coach Juande Ramos. But, it's deja vu, as i remember I felt exactly the same way at the same time last year, I remember we had 10 points from 10 games, which was enough to behead a coach who had taken us to 2 top 5 finishes, yet sadly won nothing, he is now toast.

I find myself sitting in my restaurant scratching my head as to where we shoud go from here. We all feel we should give Ramos more time, BUT, not at the expense of possible relegation, that would kill the club for sure. If we were playing well, if we were fighting for every ball, and the players were living and dying for the shirt and their manager, if were losing unluckily, sure it would be a given Ramos should get more time, but that is NOT the case. Hearing Pompei fans taunting us with "going down, going down", which is even worse than last years "Champions league, you're having a laugh" makes me fill with anger.

Strangely, after the 'Boro and Sunderland games, my expectations for the new season dropped dramatically, today I supported the team as always, but my gut instinct was that we would get beaten again, the team just looked like they didn't want to win, so I have become less and less animated each game that passes, a very sad state of affairs (but better for my health).

We struggled to beat a Polish team most of us have never heard of, and won at Newcastle, a team in the same mess as our team is, if not worse. Apart from that the season has been a disaster so far. Berbatov and Keane are being cited as the reason we are doing so badly, but our league form was equally as bad end of last season, WITH both the aforementioned players.

So, what is the answer to our predicament... for once I am speachless... I truly believed Ramos was the right appointment at the right time, if, and I mean if ramos is given the push, there are no good managers on the market now... and poyet does not have the experience. So for now will lick my wounds yet again, and hope for a miracle, but each week I watch this gutless, clueless, leaderless and once again defeated team, my optimism seems to wane. My only answer, perhaps we are cursed.....

 

[neogenisis]

Im sad that i live and work in and around portsmouth...so i have a very very bleak few days on the horizon.

*Looks for some decent tropical disease to contract*

 

[VegasII]

Call Zokora...he's always got Malaria.

 

[shelfmonkey]

My current expectations are.....relegation, extreme maybe, but I don't see any indication in the players' attitudes or demeanour that they will pull out of this nosedive. Where are the winners, the do or die heroes? I see none at Spurs and haven't done so for many many years, this current lot don't even have any personal proffessional pride, let alone pride in wearing the Spurs shirt. As for Ramos, what possessed him to give Jenas the captaincy, Jenas is the epitome of gutless mediocrity, he must've been under a general anaesthetic when he had his 'look at me I really am a geezer' tattoos done, how can anyone believe that he can motivate and cajole or lead by example, it's ridiculous an absolute joke. However, I don't blame Ramos for our current predicament, I feel the finger should be pointed at Levy, his buying policy is a complete shambles, and should have nothing to do with target selection, player recruitment should be the sole responsibility of Ramos.

 

[hughy]

It was the hardest defeat of the season to take so far for me. Just when it looks like we're slowly but surely gaining a bit of confidence, unbeaten in a few games, and against a team that have shipped 10 goals in the last 2 games, and really weren't much better off than we were confidence-wise.

In my opinion, it was completely shattered by bad, no... awful, managerial decisions. Like the idea to start Pavlyuchenko up front on his own, when it clearly didn't work on wednesday against the only team in the league worse off than we are. The idea to start David Bentley, when without a shadow of doubt in my mind he has been our worst player in the team this season. Not to mention the idea to start Gilberto (completely out of nowhere) and BAE, when we have players like Gio, Modric, Bent, Gunter, Lennon, Huddlestone, who with a bit of formation changing could have easily come in and replaced these two players that aren't good enough to fit in to the current set-up. Generally, the idea of thinking that as long as we're in all Cup competitions, we have nothing to worry about, so let's rest 5 of our best players, and not even include Campbell in the 18, and not give a fuck about 3 points that we so desperately need.

It pains me to say it, but the beginning of a season that held so much promise, as a Spurs fan I have never felt worse. In and outside of football. It's really getting me down with my work, too, people complaining that I'm in a bad mood in front of customers, because of the team I support. Everyone seems to think "that's the fun of supporting Spurs..." where's the fun in being fucking frustrated, and toyed with, by a bunch of foreigners who can't stick a ball in a net.

Aye, it's slowly killing me at 18.

 

[tommo84]

I don't blame Ramos for our current predicament, I feel the finger should be pointed at Levy, his buying policy is a complete shambles, and should have nothing to do with target selection, player recruitment should be the sole responsibility of Ramos.

I've always stuck up for Levy in the past on the grounds that huge sums of money have been made available to the manager while he has been running the club. But now whenever I think about life after Ramos (which I believe is inevitable) I cannot help think that we had the best man for the job before in Martin Jol. The fact that he is gone is partly because of the board which undermined him so badly little over a year ago, thus making his job impossible. For that I initially gave Levy the benefit of the doubt in the hope that Ramos was indeed a better man for the job. It is now clear to me at least that he isn't and so my faith in Levy is no more.

I shall cheer on the team as always next week but I fully expect us to fail to come away with a result and, if there are chants directed at removing Ramos at the end of that game I will probably be among the voices heard. I've ever so nearly had enough.

 

[shelfmonkey]

I've always stuck up for Levy in the past on the grounds that huge sums of money have been made available to the manager while he has been running the club. But now whenever I think about life after Ramos (which I believe is inevitable) I cannot help think that we had the best man for the job before in Martin Jol. The fact that he is gone is partly because of the board which undermined him so badly little over a year ago, thus making his job impossible. For that I initially gave Levy the benefit of the doubt in the hope that Ramos was indeed a better man for the job. It is now clear to me at least that he isn't and so my faith in Levy is no more.

I shall cheer on the team as always next week but I fully expect us to fail to come away with a result and, if there are chants directed at removing Ramos at the end of that game I will probably be among the voices heard. I've ever so nearly had enough.

I understand how you feel, but how would ditching Ramos improve our situation? Look at the Geordies!! No, Ramos must stay and have control over players coming into the club and Levy should keep his big nose and Comolli out of it and stick to the financial dealings of transfers once THE MANAGER has identified who he wants and who he wants rid of.

 

[jamesc0le]

we were playing ok today until jenas gave away that ridiculous penalty. and he was anonymous before that. ramos picked a team that did not look good but he wants the players to be ready to play well whenever they are used, wherever they are used. in retrospect, he should have gone with modric/lennon/huddlestone/gio instead of jenas but then we we would have expected jenas to play alot better given he had such a poor game against newcastle..

 

[loyalyid]

Reading the replies, seems I am not alone with my opinion. It's now Monday, and I haven't got a clue how Ramos is going to turn this around, especially when poyet was quoted as saying Pav and Bent cannot play together! What a mess.

 

[Yiddo1982]

It was the hardest defeat of the season to take so far for me. Just when it looks like we're slowly but surely gaining a bit of confidence, unbeaten in a few games, and against a team that have shipped 10 goals in the last 2 games, and really weren't much better off than we were confidence-wise.

In my opinion, it was completely shattered by bad, no... awful, managerial decisions. Like the idea to start Pavlyuchenko up front on his own, when it clearly didn't work on wednesday against the only team in the league worse off than we are. The idea to start David Bentley, when without a shadow of doubt in my mind he has been our worst player in the team this season. Not to mention the idea to start Gilberto (completely out of nowhere) and BAE, when we have players like Gio, Modric, Bent, Gunter, Lennon, Huddlestone, who with a bit of formation changing could have easily come in and replaced these two players that aren't good enough to fit in to the current set-up. Generally, the idea of thinking that as long as we're in all Cup competitions, we have nothing to worry about, so let's rest 5 of our best players, and not even include Campbell in the 18, and not give a fuck about 3 points that we so desperately need.

It pains me to say it, but the beginning of a season that held so much promise, as a Spurs fan I have never felt worse. In and outside of football. It's really getting me down with my work, too, people complaining that I'm in a bad mood in front of customers, because of the team I support. Everyone seems to think "that's the fun of supporting Spurs..." where's the fun in being fucking frustrated, and toyed with, by a bunch of foreigners who can't stick a ball in a net.

Aye, it's slowly killing me at 18.

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[Danny1]

Unfortunately seeing as we have signed almost a whole new team of players I thought that we would have an indifferent start to the season, but nothing as bad as this. We were so lethargic yesterday it was embarrasing. Jenas was nothing short of pathetic. This lad has all the talk but none of the drive. He needs to take a leaf out of O'Hara's book because if Jenas had his drive & determination he could be a very very good player.

January will come & more signings will be made, but the problem is that who will we bring in? What class player would want to join a team that is struggling so badly. Last night I watched the Sevilla game & a certain Capel was electrifying, he ran at players, made them commit to diving in and constantly fouling him. The perfect outlet.

The problems now are:
Will Capel want to join us..?
Will Arshavin want to join us..?
What top CB will want to join?
What top CM will want to join?

Answers on a postcard..!

 

[knilly]

this weekend im going to the lane for the 1st time since chris armstrong scored against sheffield wednesday in a 1-0 win. and for some reason ive woken up this morning and im optimistic that two good results this week could kick start our season.

the way out of this predicament is like IOMLS said. to go on the offensive. two strikers two attacking mids, gio and lennon. christ give taarabt a game!

i think im going to get blasted for this but as a fan of this club, im eternally optimistic, even more so this week. yesterday i couldnt see us scoring even if we were still out there while andy gray was doing the last word, and the groundsmen had taken the nets down. today i feel different, based on nothing more than its sunny and its my birthday this week, something has to change and i think, i hope its this week.

 

[sunnydelight786]

It was the hardest defeat of the season to take so far for me. Just when it looks like we're slowly but surely gaining a bit of confidence, unbeaten in a few games, and against a team that have shipped 10 goals in the last 2 games, and really weren't much better off than we were confidence-wise.

In my opinion, it was completely shattered by bad, no... awful, managerial decisions. Like the idea to start Pavlyuchenko up front on his own, when it clearly didn't work on wednesday against the only team in the league worse off than we are. The idea to start David Bentley, when without a shadow of doubt in my mind he has been our worst player in the team this season. Not to mention the idea to start Gilberto (completely out of nowhere) and BAE, when we have players like Gio, Modric, Bent, Gunter, Lennon, Huddlestone, who with a bit of formation changing could have easily come in and replaced these two players that aren't good enough to fit in to the current set-up. Generally, the idea of thinking that as long as we're in all Cup competitions, we have nothing to worry about, so let's rest 5 of our best players, and not even include Campbell in the 18, and not give a fuck about 3 points that we so desperately need.

It pains me to say it, but the beginning of a season that held so much promise, as a Spurs fan I have never felt worse. In and outside of football. It's really getting me down with my work, too, people complaining that I'm in a bad mood in front of customers, because of the team I support. Everyone seems to think "that's the fun of supporting Spurs..." where's the fun in being fucking frustrated, and toyed with, by a bunch of foreigners who can't stick a ball in a net.

Aye, it's slowly killing me at 18.

I know exactly what you mean and feel there mate. I have been in a constant bad mood for over a year now. I lose my rag with everyone and anyone over such trival things and worse still the other half is getting the brunt of it. I'm at my wits end with the club but foolishly still go to 90% of the games home and away. I'm off to Krakow on Thursday, lose that and I wont return back from Poland!!!