It's all over

[Sum Monsterism]

If it changes for the worse then it won't be classed as an over reaction.
I'll say it again, I have no confidence in Levy. The likes of you can stick your head in the sand if you want and keep defending the dear leader to the hilt, I'm not doing it.

I bet DL is devastated some fans on some forums are seething. He's probably crying about it right now.

 

[kaz Hirai]

Sorry, i meant together.
If you can find one please let me know.

well no they aren't gonna all start together in a 4231 formation are they, as it dictacts

there's only room for 1 free roaming number 10 so either holtby or Eriksen would've gotten the nod. If we played 4:3:3 then who knows, though Eriksen on the little of seen of him doesnt look best suited to being in the thick of the action in a premier league game

We

We've played every single game this season with two CDM's and a no.10. We've never put our best passing players on the pitch together, it's been herd immunity to passing and movement. It takes a certain number of players on the same wavelength for a style of play to work. Arsenal set up to play Liverpool with Arteta, Ramsey, Carzola, Ozil and Rosicky. We set up with Sandro, Dembele, Paulinho, Lennon and Chadli. Every single player out of Arsenals midfield 5 was a better passer of the ball than the single best out of all 5 of ours. Every single one of our players was bigger and stronger than theirs apart from Lennon who instead is faster than any of theirs. They beat Liverpool 2-0. We got our arseholes split open with a solid 5-0 fucking at our home ground without ever having a shot on goal. Who's philosophy do you think is better?

We've played every game with Sandro and capoue in the middle? Shit must've missed that.

Could've sworn dembele or paulhino start, neither of which are defensive midfielders but ok then

 

[Mullers]

I bet DL is devastated some fans on some forums are seething. He's probably crying about it right now.

What's your point? I never said DL cares about what fans thinks on forums.

 

[Sum Monsterism]

What's your point? I never said DL cares about what fans thinks on forums.

is wasn't a dig dude. chill. you did say "I'll say it again, I have no confidence in Levy." I'll tell you this: he don't care!

 

[TheSecretNonFootballer]

Don't worry, Mullers. I still care.

 

[OmarsComing]

Yeah so what? You won't find a single post from me where I called for his sacking. I had confidence in AVB to turn things around. I have no confidence in Levy what so ever.

Just hurry up and start a thread titled: Give Naughton a new contract

 

[Charly***]

From this point we could go in any direction. The squad is packed with so far unrealised potential, I don't see it as all doom and gloom, far from it. Whatever way we go will take time to assess.

 

[OmarsComing]

How quickly things can change, 18 weeks ago it was like:

Even just 6 weeks ago it was

 

[jezz]

well no they aren't gonna all start together in a 4231 formation are they, as it dictacts

there's only room for 1 free roaming number 10 so either holtby or Eriksen would've gotten the nod. If we played 4:3:3 then who knows, though Eriksen on the little of seen of him doesnt look best suited to being in the thick of the action in a premier league game

We


We've played every game with Sandro and capoue in the middle? Shit must've missed that.

Could've sworn dembele or paulhino start, neither of which are defensive midfielders but ok then

Really?
Sandro Holtby
Lamela Ericksen another
Soldado.
Looks pretty good to me.

 

[idontgetit]

well no they aren't gonna all start together in a 4231 formation are they, as it dictacts

there's only room for 1 free roaming number 10 so either holtby or Eriksen would've gotten the nod. If we played 4:3:3 then who knows, though Eriksen on the little of seen of him doesnt look best suited to being in the thick of the action in a premier league game

We


We've played every game with Sandro and capoue in the middle? Shit must've missed that.

Could've sworn dembele or paulhino start, neither of which are defensive midfielders but ok then

They've been playing CDM roles although you could define the term as deep midfielders. How about the rest of my point comparing the Arsenal midfield that used the same formation as us against Liverpool and came off 7 goals better? I'd love to hear your thoughts on that

 

[CowInAComa]

You'd prefer to have exciting football and lose to the spammers in a quarter final after going a goal up, than a 1-0 boring win, wouldn't you?

I'd rather we have exciting football and win.

Where is the link between boring football and winning? Seems to me a construct purely to give weight to your support of AvB. And thats exactly what you are implying with your question, that we would have won had we set about making the game AvB monotonous. Your argument would have more weight had exactly that hypothesis not already been played out to a 3-0 loss.

How about would you rather we played boring football and lose 1-0 or play exciting football and win 3-1? Equally as likely.

 

[spursandbarca]

Its not too late for a mass January fire sale !! We can fix this, lets take a look at the squad.... Left Back, Left Wing, Centre Forward & Striker. All we need is to sell one player to raise the funds for 4 !!

Then sell Lamela or Soldado

 

[Mr Pink]

I'd rather we have exciting football and win.

Where is the link between boring football and winning? Seems to me a construct purely to give weight to your support of AvB. And thats exactly what you are implying with your question, that we would have won had we set about making the game AvB monotonous. Your argument would have more weight had exactly that hypothesis not already been played out to a 3-0 loss.

How about would you rather we played boring football and lose 1-0 or play exciting football and win 3-1? Equally as likely.

Yep, I have seen this argument so many times now - like results and performances are exclusive and aren't connected or something. Its mind boggling and I couldn't be arsed trying to counter every single post that raises the same point.

What many of these folk tend to forget is that better performances will end up taking care of better results in the long run. I think its naïve in the extreme to think that our results were going to be good enough to finish anywhere near the top 4 this season playing the way we have been.

Lets be honest, we're getting well and truly found out now after a couple of lucky results earlier on in the season that had us in a slightly false position in the League. You can't keep relying on a dodgy penalty to get you out of jail, or nicking a game 1 nil every week.

You only have to look at our GD in and around the company we were keeping to realise that sooner or later we were going to start dropping down the league playing the way we were creating so few clear cut chances. That is the long and short of it. People can argue all they like that things were going to improve but they weren't, there was no evidence at all to suggest that it was.

Playing a style of football that saw us create more chances would of addressed some of these issues - we just weren't capable of doing so.

 

[Mr Pink]

Or weren't being instructed to do so...one or the other.

 

[CowInAComa]

Yep, I have seen this argument so many times now - like results and performances are exclusive and aren't connected or something. Its mind boggling and I couldn't be arsed trying to counter every single post that raises the same point.

What many of these folk tend to forget is that better performances will end up taking care of better results in the long run. I think its naïve in the extreme to think that our results were going to be good enough to finish anywhere near the top 4 this season playing the way we have been.

Lets be honest, we're getting well and truly found out now after a couple of lucky results earlier on in the season that had us in a slightly false position in the League. You can't keep relying on a dodgy penalty to get you out of jail, or nicking a game 1 nil every week.

You only have to look at our GD in and around the company we were keeping to realise that sooner or later we were going to start dropping down the league playing the way we were creating so few clear cut chances. That is the long and short of it. People can argue all they like that things were going to improve but they weren't, there was no evidence at all to suggest that it was.

Playing a style of football that saw us create more chances would of addressed some of these issues - we just weren't capable of doing so.

On the money as usual Mr Pink.

'Found out' is exactly right, once our archilles heel had been exposed, which was the high line we insisted upon, we had no answer to teams defending deep and playing counter attacks over the top. Against average sides we got picked off, against the top sides we got annilhilated.

There was no answers forthcoming. Not only was it pure monotony to watch it was also being shown up for what it was and costing us game after game. In short, it wasnt working and AvB showed no intent to change it. 100% right decision to sack him.

Last nights game wasnt nearly as bad as people make out. It was very rough around the edges and needed some cooler heads (and not sure 442 is ever going to be the answer) but for the vast majority of the game they couldnt live with us.

 

[kaz Hirai]

They've been playing CDM roles although you could define the term as deep midfielders. How about the rest of my point comparing the Arsenal midfield that used the same formation as us against Liverpool and came off 7 goals better? I'd love to hear your thoughts on that

In no way has paulhino who has been the favoured partner of Sandro been playing as a defensive midfielder

I would bet steak dinners that apart from andros Townsend he's probably had the most goal attempts. Just because he gets back to help out..well that's because he's a box to box midfielder period

 

[Destroyer]

Then sell Lamela or Soldado

Shame it isnt as easy as FIFA Ultimate Team lol

 

[idontgetit]

In no way has paulhino who has been the favoured partner of Sandro been playing as a defensive midfielder

I would bet steak dinners that apart from andros Townsend he's probably had the most goal attempts. Just because he gets back to help out..well that's because he's a box to box midfielder period

And my other point?

 

[SpurSince57]

I'm giving up on Levy, he could hire the best manager in the world I still wouldn't have confidence because as soon as a bad run comes there is a fair chance he'll get the tin tack and won't be given time to install his vision. We hired a young manager who was learning and Levy handicapped him from day one, I don' expect any coach to be happy under those conditions.

By buying him £160m' worth of players in two windows—that's almost as much as Ramos and Redknapp combined, you understand?—and hiring the DoF he wanted? I would imagine quite a few EPL managers would appreciate being handicapped like that.

His handicap was that he wasn't up to the job.

 

[parklane1]

Shame it isnt as easy as FIFA Ultimate Team lol

One of the biggest problems with some fans in todays football, they think it is as easy in real life as sat on their arses playing games on puters.