Jack Rodwell Signs For Sunderland

[Bus-Conductor]

Unsurprised by the reaction, but I would say 10m is massively worth a gamble for such quality. He is a centre back who has been deliberately played in CM as he is cultured enough and can learn his trade and impose himself on top flight footy there.

I genuinely believe Jack Rodwell will be one of the first names on the England World Cup teamsheet in 2018. He's precisely what the country needs and we could well be the team to allow him to showcase his talents. His discipline is remarkable for one so talented. Jack Wilshere with a brain and no ego, and actual football skills, if you like.

I think we are at cross purposes here BO, we're talking about Rodwell, you're talking about Yaya Toure.

 

[Bill_Oddie]

I think we are at cross purposes here BO, we're talking about Rodwell, you're talking about Yaya Toure.

Lol. Yaya available for 10m? Clearly not. Rodwell is more in the David Luiz bracket. You don't think he's 20% as valuable as Luiz?

 

[crokey]

cahill
stones
shaw
wilshere
ox
barkley
sterling
walcott
welbeck
sturridge

plenty of others too probably.

I'd take henderson and lallana if we are ignoring fees

 

[Bill_Oddie]

At the risk of appearing defensive, I do think it's worth considering Jack Rodwell, especially this week. The Germany team that won the World Cup were built on the group that won the 2009 European Championships. It featured Neuer, Howedes, Boateng, Ozil, Khedira and Hummels.

They beat England in that final. Humped us in fact. But we also played them in the group stages where Rodwell scored a goal from defensive midfield and was given Man of the Match. He wasn't fit to play more than the last 10 minutes of the final.

I think it's strange that Germany held on to and developed so many of that fine side and England only had James Milner in common at this year's finals. Well, obviously it's not strange at all. This is the England team we're talking about. Par for the course.

But the point is this. Jack Rodwell is a terrifically talented player, who has been the English equivalent of Sami Khedira. He was very unlucky with injuries and even unluckier that City's riches meant they bought finished players rather than invest in his development. The lad's still only 23 and has the hunger to make something of his promising career. His next move is crucial and for 10 million (which I assume we can make a large chunk performance-related) it seems such a winning move I'm saddened that conventional wisdom seems so against it - indeed I'd suggest that if you don't want us to sign Jack Rodwell, you are a fair part of the reason England do not fulfill their potential at international level.

So there.

 

[guy]

I think he'd be worth taking the risk if it were for 5mill, no more. Or even better still on loan with option to buy for 5mill.

He only cost City 12m, so not like they're taking a massive hit (not that that even comes into consideration with the wankers)

In the last 3 years he's made 14, 11 and 5 appearances.

 

[Sweech]

I think he'd be worth taking the risk if it were for 5mill, no more. Or even better still on loan with option to buy for 5mill.

He only cost City 12m, so not like they're taking a massive hit (not that that even comes into consideration with the wankers)

In the last 3 years he's made 14, 11 and 5 appearances.

Agree with this.

He's worth a gamble, but 10mil for a guy who has barely played the last few years is too much.

 

[spurs9]

I think he'd be worth taking the risk if it were for 5mill, no more. Or even better still on loan with option to buy for 5mill.

He only cost City 12m, so not like they're taking a massive hit (not that that even comes into consideration with the wankers)

In the last 3 years he's made 14, 11 and 5 appearances.

Even then, I would rather develop Carroll, Bentaleb & Veljkovic. We have far too many CM's as it is.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Bump

 

[Nine while nine]

Bump

Great. Rodwell's so injury prone that even his thread has picked up a knock...

 

[dagraham]

What is the point of selling one of the best DM in the league because of injury problems and signing someone with even more injury problems who is nowhere near as good?

 

[SpurSince57]

Apparently the revival of this story is due to a post by one eduardosmartez on ftl. Members who have joined in the last five-six years won't be aware that this guy is a BA Hons 1st Class—and I don't mean Bachelor of Arts.

Ignore, and don't upset yourselves.

 

[talkshowhost86]

Whilst I don't think this will happen, particularly as the sources seem more than a little sketchy, I could see why this would be a sensible signing.

He's a very talented player and he can get about the pitch as well. He's quite versatile and I really think that, if he's fit, then he'd suit Poch's system very well.

On top of that he's young, English (good for our quota) and likely to be available for a reasonable price.

A lot would depend on his fitness, but I would be happy to see him come in for a sensible fee.

 

[absolute bobbins]

Apparently the revival of this story is due to a post by one eduardosmartez on ftl. Members who have joined in the last five-six years won't be aware that this guy is a BA Hons 1st Class—and I don't mean Bachelor of Arts.

Ignore, and don't upset yourselves.

Ben Amos?

 

[Dharmabum]

Rodwell's simply too injury prone. Otherwise Everton would have snapped him up for 37-8M by now.
Sandro would have been a world class DMF (and most probably sold for £25-30M) bare his seasonal 2-3 month off due to injuries.

 

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

Wasn't he considered as a CB option when he was at Everton. Maybe that's why we're interested. Personally not keen on buying players from top teams or who have failed at top teams in this league as I think as a player you lose that desire to want to reach that level again and you will often see them types of players coasting through the rest of there careers.

 

[SFCS]

Wasn't he considered as a CB option when he was at Everton. Maybe that's why we're interested. Personally not keen on buying players from top teams or who have failed at top teams in this league as I think as a player you lose that desire to want to reach that level again and you will often see them types of players coasting through the rest of there careers.

Howard, Forlan, Lukkaku, Johnson, Sidwell, De Bruyne and the like, I don't see them giving up and just content to coast along. It's the ones late in their careers that are just looking out for a last payday you have to watch out for, as QPR learned the hard way.

There's usually good value to be had from picking up the "flops" from big money sides but my problem with Rodwell is that we don't need him and he's not proven that he's good enough, or fit enough to rely on either.

 

[charliemouse]

Howard, Forlan, Lukkaku, Johnson, Sidwell, De Bruyne and the like, I don't see them giving up and just content to coast along. It's the ones late in their careers that are just looking out for a last payday you have to watch out for, as QPR learned the hard way.

There's usually good value to be had from picking up the "flops" from big money sides but my problem with Rodwell is that we don't need him and he's not proven that he's good enough, or fit enough to rely on either.

I totally agree, the majority of the Reading team that recorded the record amount of points in the Championship and then went on to finish 8th in the Premier League was mainly made up of players that had been rejected by top teams. The hunger and desire in that team was what made them so good.

 

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

Y

Howard, Forlan, Lukkaku, Johnson, Sidwell, De Bruyne and the like, I don't see them giving up and just content to coast along. It's the ones late in their careers that are just looking out for a last payday you have to watch out for, as QPR learned the hard way.

There's usually good value to be had from picking up the "flops" from big money sides but my problem with Rodwell is that we don't need him and he's not proven that he's good enough, or fit enough to rely on either.

Your right there are a few exceptions, but generally I think a lot lose that extra bit of fire, when in there mind they've already reached the top. I think it's different if you buy from another league or the players leave for another league, like Forlan and De Bruyne. A new adventure, new goals etc. I personally don't think Sidwell has reached the level he was at before he got his Chelsea move since then, same with Johnson. Lukaku didn't really get his feet under the table at Chelsea and I'll be interested to see how he does this season now he's permed.

 

[yido_number1]

I can't see how signing him would be productive in any way, shape or form. He's played less than 100 league games since 2007. Meaning he has not been fit or selected for 166. The talk of him being seen as a centre back is fine but the last thing we need is a player that is made of glass in a position that is prone to picking up knocks. Add that to the fact we have another player coming back from lengthy injury (kaboul) and a player who seems to pick up injuries every couple of weeks (Vlad) and you have a recipe for disaster.

He hasn't played Centre Back in his entire career as a professional could mean you have a major liability on your hands. In CM we have two players currently on our books that both got injured last year that are returning and of those one of them is susceptible to pick up injuries throughout the season (Sandro). Gareth Barry would've made more sense than Rodwell, reads the game well, stays fit and can fill in across Left back and CB if needed. As a club we've carried far too many players that are persistently injured and it consistently costs us. For once can we try and sign a player that will spend less time with the physio's and more time with the first team squad.

 

[felmani26]

No.