John Terry Racist Remark to Anton Ferdinand

[SpurSince57]

We took our seats in the East Stand to the sound of typical North London football fan conversation around us: ‘Where’s Lucy today?’ ‘Oh, she couldn’t make it this time, she had to marinate the lamb in rosemary.’
In the second half Arsenal sent on an African forward called Kanu. Kanu could either be brilliant or spend all afternoon falling over the ball. On this occasion he kept falling over the ball. A youngish bloke sitting in front of us lost his temper after one particularly ludicrous pratfall and yelled, at the top of his voice, something about ‘you black b*****d’.
There was a terrible silence.

Football reflects us all as it always did, and these days it's both racist and not racist at the same time
The bloke leaped up and wheeled round 180 degrees in the same movement, shoved his face straight in front of my mother’s, and said in firm and formal tones: ‘I’m terribly sorry about the racist comment.’

You could not imagine such a thing happening at a football match 30 years ago.

I can't imagine it happening now (or in 2003, or whenever this was supposed to have happened). This guy clearly can, though.

Most believable. :roll:

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

I can't imagine it happening now (or in 2003, or whenever this was supposed to have happened). This guy clearly can, though.

Most believable. :roll:

Indeed. I'd have used some Garlic too.

 

[SpurSince57]

And as we know, marinading a leg of lamb is a process that lasts several hours, during which the joint must be constantly watched.

 

[scoobydoo]

And as we know, marinading a leg of lamb is a process that lasts several hours, during which the joint must be constantly watched.

actually marinating lamb is very straight forward and needn't be watched closely at all.

i sometimes wonder what game people are watching :shrug:

 

[SpurSince57]

Both spellings are permissible. Ask the OED.

Looks like a shovel is inadequate for laying on the irony.

 

[chivers!]

Sounds like burying a piece of meat under a pile of twigs for your Sunday roast.

Talking of Sunday roasts, I can hear an all-round chant of 'Stand up if you hate Terry' for QPR's visit.

 

[theShiznit]

at the end of an E-mail from Paddy Power there was this...

That's Not Terry Nice Hmmm...has John Terry hit upon the ultimate passive-aggressive insult technique?

'Oi ref, do you think I just called you a blind, corrupt, useless piece of shit? Well I didn't, even though the words have just come out of my mouth, I've phrased them in a question rather than a statement so there's nothing you can do about it you blind, corrupt, useless piece of shit...Damn it!"

 

[CosmicHotspur]

On the question of that leg of lamb...

I'm cooking the old man a lamb shank tonight with roast veggies and it will be wrapped in foil on a low-to-medium oven with garlic, rosemary and mint jelly smeared all over it.

Done that way, the meat just falls off the bone.

Who's salivating...?

 

[theShiznit]

On the question of that leg of lamb...

I'm cooking the old man a lamb shank tonight with roast veggies and it will be wrapped in foil on a low-to-medium oven with garlic, rosemary and mint jelly smeared all over it.

Done that way, the meat just falls off the bone.

Who's salivating...?

:shrug:

Never heard of him.

 

[scoobydoo]

On the question of that leg of lamb...

I'm cooking the old man a lamb shank tonight with roast veggies and it will be wrapped in foil on a low-to-medium oven with garlic, rosemary and mint jelly smeared all over it.

Done that way, the meat just falls off the bone.

Who's saliva ting...?

Can only assume he's this guys brother

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhu_Ting

 

[Mullers]

It's only unwise if you equate the term monkey as a bad thing. Personally I don't as once again I'm of the opinion we came from monkey's. You can call me a monkey as much as you want and I won't be offended. Unless you're talking about Planet of the Apes type monkey where they were the baddies. I wouldn't like that. Just like I don't being a called a Devil irrespective of my religious views. It implies me and my heritage are all bad.

Associating the term monkey with black people IS a bad thing, because of the reason I gave and the reason SS57, regardless of whether you're not offended. Many black people are offended by the term so if a person knows this, I don't understand why they would insist it's ok to call black people monkeys. You wouldn't like it if people who didn't think Devil was offensive insisted on calling you that.

Over the years I already have posted examples and true to form they by and large get skipped over and not responded to. When they have been responded to it's an attack on the source with nothing to say about the content. The last example of that was a few months ago which was written by a Priest's wife who wrote about her experience of living in a no go white area in Birmingham. She was glad to move back to London was the outcome.

If the source is racist what do you expect? Back up what you say with evidence from a non racist source.

not really, some blacks look like monkeys, as do some whites.

Not really? Seriously do you really believe that those who have called black people monkeys were being non racist?

Adds a little context to the post i made earlier which was if some of you ave still not gathered sarcastic in its tone to highlight some of the nonsense some spout on here

So you're agreeing with Totoners post or saying its nonsense? It's not completely clear to me.

I can tell you categorically, that is not true, maybe in america they do favour one race and this is due to them not even being called mixed race but labelled as black or white, more so than here,

In the uk i know for fact due to family, friends and ex's that mixed race people do not favour a race, merely people assume this including me at first, and this counts for all types of mixed race people not just half white, half black, yes some people do have traits that may be more in common with one of the races but this is most likely, due to their upbringing and is different every person

The posts about Collymore being racist are nonsense, but I have to tell you that your experiences don't make it a fact. Racism is a complex issue and absolutely any ethnic group can be racist, there are cases here in the uk where mixed race people do favour a race, it can happen anywhere in the world.

 

[theShiznit]

Not really? Seriously do you really believe that those who have called black people monkeys were being non racist?

can you please show me where i said that?

I have said black people look like monkeys before but not the generic use of monkey a specific type of monkey, and they did, as said i have also pointed out white people who looked like types of monkey.

i point out look-a-likes, it's what i do, whether it be people looking like other people (i have white to black look-a-likes too...) or people looking like animals, please enlighten me as to whether i am indeed racist or not as the suspense is killing me.

And I'll need to update my CV.

 

[Mullers]

can you please show me where i said that?

I have said black people look like monkeys before but not the generic use of monkey a specific type of monkey, and they did, as said i have also pointed out white people who looked like types of monkey.

i point out look-a-likes, it's what i do, whether it be people looking like other people (i have white to black look-a-likes too...) or people looking like animals, please enlighten me as to whether i am indeed racist or not as the suspense is killing me.

I was asking you a question because it doesn't seem you grasp the fact that calling a black person a monkey or for that matter any type of monkey whether it's a baboon, ape, orangutan etc is going to be seen as offensive, regardless of whether you're just pointing out look alikes and regardless of whether you think that some white people look like types of monkey.

I suggest you do what SS57 says, I severely doubt an explanation of 'i point out look-a-likes, it's what i do' or I also call some white people animals would be enough to stop a torrent of abuse and/or violence coming your way.

 

[theShiznit]

This thread is not about being offensive.

I know i am an offensive person.

 

[Mullers]

And here was I thinking that racial comments cause offence.

Ok just to be crystal clear.

I was asking you a question because it doesn't seem you grasp the fact that calling a black person a monkey or for that matter any type of monkey whether it's a baboon, ape, orangutan etc is going to be seen as racist, regardless of whether you're just pointing out look alikes and regardless of whether you think that some white people look like types of monkey.

 

[theShiznit]

and i'm the one who's not understanding?

I never said anything about calling anyone a monkey?

you can put whatever spin you want on the fact that i have said some black people and some white people look like varieties of monkey.

and you will see from the previous pages (hopefully, but not really sure now...) that i believe this is a racist offence.

 

[t7ny]

I see 11 pages on a subje t that will never go away. People make racist remarks because whenever we want to insult someone we go for the insult most likely to hurt or offend, it's as simple as that.
If you've got one leg you're gonna get called a cripple, if you're oveweight you're gonna get. called fat, and if you're black you're gonna get called (insert any of hundreds of words).

It's human nature, we all do it, even if we don't consider ourselves racist we still offend the fatties and cripples, it's how far you're willing to go to offend.

 

[faymantaray]

Suarez, Fabregas and now Terry.. seems like racism is back in..

 

[alex3]

Suarez, Fabregas and now Terry.. seems like racism is back in..

:roll::roll:

 

[Wellspurs]

Wonder if Ledders and Anton had a chat today?