Juan Foyth

[Berkshire Spur]

Back and foyth we go

 

[Lou3000]

Lessons learned and all that shit.

 

[Wsussexspur]

Lessons learned and all that shit.

Every year we are linked and seem close to signing a young South American prospect and it always seems to end in failure. Obviously we could end up signing Foryth still. But you would think that we would learn lessons from past failures when trying to sign players from this part of the world.

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

Every year we are linked and seem close to signing a young South American prospect and it always seems to end in failure. Obviously we could end up signing Foryth still. But you would think that we would learn lessons from past failures when trying to sign players from this part of the world.

I dont see what there is to learn. This seemed pretty simplistic. Terms agreed with player, no 3rd party ownership. President jets all the way over to complete the deal and somehow we still cant get the deal over the line.

12th richest Club in the world and we cant even sign youth prospects these days.

 

[yanno]

I dont see what there is to learn. This seemed pretty simplistic. Terms agreed with player, no 3rd party ownership. President jets all the way over to complete the deal and somehow we still cant get the deal over the line.

12th richest Club in the world and we cant even sign youth prospects these days.

Plus it sounds as if Poch met personally with his friend and former Argentine international teammate Veron, and that's how we got ahead of several top Italian teams, such as Roma, who wanted Foyth.

I hope Poch is onside with whatever games are being played because we could easily miss out on this as the newspaper reports suggest Estudiantes need money desperately.

 

[mark87]

Kinell there's a lot of bed wetting in this thread.

 

[nickspurs]

Can't even sign a fifth choice centre back. Fuck off Levy

Or maybe we did the deal, made them wait on announcement until we say so and Vernon therefore had to say 'nothing to report'. Just a theory.

 

[WiganSpur]

Easy to laugh but it's getting quite serious now. Quite pathetic that we can't even sign a youth player. Not even fucking Pau ffs.

I won't hide my disappointment until we've got some decent signings on the OS. People still saying everything is going to be fine on the incomings front but i've yet to see any evidence of that whatsoever.

 

[Trix]

To be fair it's not the first time Veron has had an unproductive time in England.

 

[yanno]

To be fair it's not the first time Veron has had an unproductive time in England.

Excellent crack. But of course last time it was manure who suffered.

If we can't get the deal done - eg because Estudiantes want a loan back and we don't - that's fine and understandable.

But Poch appears to have been directly involved in this deal. For me the single most important thing is that Poch is onside with whatever the final outcome of the Foyth saga is.

 

[Stoof]

It's so odd that even after, what 15/16 years of genuine upside, Champions League football, two recent title challenges, something to play for past January and yet still the management/chairman don't get the benefit of the doubt.

No possibility whatsoever that they turned around and went "oooh you've got all that Walker cash now, we'll have a bit of that" and we (quite rightly) said "yeah fuck off mate".

No, definitely Levy fucking it up.

I just don't know what he'll ever have to do to get people on side; the ridiculous thing being that even if people think he's in it for himself he still needs Spurs to do well to make money which is still in our benefit! Bonkers McConkers.

 

[WiganSpur]

It's so odd that even after, what 15/16 years of genuine upside, Champions League football, two recent title challenges, something to play for past January and yet still the management/chairman don't get the benefit of the doubt.

No possibility whatsoever that they turned around and went "oooh you've got all that Walker cash now, we'll have a bit of that" and we (quite rightly) said "yeah fuck off mate".

No, definitely Levy fucking it up.

I just don't know what he'll ever have to do to get people on side; the ridiculous thing being that even if people think he's in it for himself he still needs Spurs to do well to make money which is still in our benefit! Bonkers McConkers.

So why didn't he sign Foyth or anyone for that matter before we sold Walker then?

 

[Stoof]

So why didn't he sign Foyth or anyone for that matter before we sold Walker then?

No idea. It was a potential theory, nothing more.

The problem I have is that the negativity is from the people who think that Levy doesn't have the best interests of the club at heart - and would rather believe gossip columns, and third hand whispers from agents.

There are many reasons that it wasn't concluded - one being that he wasn't even here in the first place or was never here to do that particular deal. Not the first time the press have said so-and-so is in X place and it turned out to be a load of bollocks.

I know where my loyalties lie, and what side I give the benefit of the doubt to.

 

[DanielJohnCosta]

I know being an Italian you can be born anywhere and get an Italian passport as i have one and i was born in the UK, Polish i don't think they give them out willy nilly like that, could be wrong but as my wife is Polish i know how bureaucratic they can be with even the most simple things.

it's becoming more difficult - i'm second generation italian on both sides and it's not as easy to get ITAL citizenship as it once was

 

[allatsea]

Kinell there's a lot of bed wetting in this thread.

The bed wetters are out in force at the moment

 

[yanno]

It's so odd that even after, what 15/16 years of genuine upside, Champions League football, two recent title challenges, something to play for past January and yet still the management/chairman don't get the benefit of the doubt.

No possibility whatsoever that they turned around and went "oooh you've got all that Walker cash now, we'll have a bit of that" and we (quite rightly) said "yeah fuck off mate".

No, definitely Levy fucking it up.

I just don't know what he'll ever have to do to get people on side; the ridiculous thing being that even if people think he's in it for himself he still needs Spurs to do well to make money which is still in our benefit! Bonkers McConkers.

Experience has taught me that a healthy scepticism is the best approach to most things.

Levy has got many more things right than wrong, and so has Poch. I'm glad they're in charge of our club.

My point in this thread is that Poch appears to have been directly involved in this potential Foyth transfer. There is enough in the numerous press reports to suggest that something is going on (and I say this with the healty scepticism of a national journalist who knows the games the press play).

So, if Poch is OK with no deal being done, then that's fine. But only a few days ago SC's very own Goat bleated:

Whilst Pochettino understands that we can't sign big stars, he's getting increasingly frustrated that targets agreed to are not being delivered, despite these players being entirely affordable, within our range and agreeing to come. In fact is a number of cases fees have actually been agreed.

He's not getting his choices with some regularity and things aren't at all well between him and the bald man who offers up signings that Poch just doesn't want. He'll continue to say the right things for now but unless things change soon, at some point we'll start to see stories appearing in the media. The Goat's source guesses we might get another season from him at best unless things dramatically improve. But that's just a guess.

So I'll continue with my healthy scepticism of all things, whilst hoping we get the players Poch wants to bolster our forthcoming campaign and continue to develop the best of our young players.

 

[WiganSpur]

Experience has taught me that a healthy scepticism is the best approach to most things.

Levy has got many more things right than wrong, and so has Poch. I'm glad they're in charge of our club.

My point in this thread is that Poch appears to have been directly involved in this potential Foyth transfer. There is enough in the numerous press reports to suggest that something is going on (and I say this with the healty scepticism of a national journalist who knows the games the press play).

So, if Poch is OK with no deal being done, then that's fine. But only a few days ago SC's very own Goat bleated:

Whilst Pochettino understands that we can't sign big stars, he's getting increasingly frustrated that targets agreed to are not being delivered, despite these players being entirely affordable, within our range and agreeing to come. In fact is a number of cases fees have actually been agreed.

He's not getting his choices with some regularity and things aren't at all well between him and the bald man who offers up signings that Poch just doesn't want. He'll continue to say the right things for now but unless things change soon, at some point we'll start to see stories appearing in the media. The Goat's source guesses we might get another season from him at best unless things dramatically improve. But that's just a guess.

So I'll continue with my healthy scepticism of all things, whilst hoping we get the players Poch wants to bolster our forthcoming campaign and continue to develop the best of our young players.

I think the overall concern from many is that whilst we completely understand there needs to be a degree of realism with transfers compared to our rivals that is not an excuse to be taking the piss as this ITK is suggesting. Our revenue is still a lot higher than the majority of Premier League clubs.

 

[Stoof]

Experience has taught me that a healthy scepticism is the best approach to most things.

Levy has got many more things right than wrong, and so has Poch. I'm glad they're in charge of our club.

My point in this thread is that Poch appears to have been directly involved in this potential Foyth transfer. There is enough in the numerous press reports to suggest that something is going on (and I say this with the healty scepticism of a national journalist who knows the games the press play).

So, if Poch is OK with no deal being done, then that's fine. But only a few days ago SC's very own Goat bleated:

Whilst Pochettino understands that we can't sign big stars, he's getting increasingly frustrated that targets agreed to are not being delivered, despite these players being entirely affordable, within our range and agreeing to come. In fact is a number of cases fees have actually been agreed.

He's not getting his choices with some regularity and things aren't at all well between him and the bald man who offers up signings that Poch just doesn't want. He'll continue to say the right things for now but unless things change soon, at some point we'll start to see stories appearing in the media. The Goat's source guesses we might get another season from him at best unless things dramatically improve. But that's just a guess.

So I'll continue with my healthy scepticism of all things, whilst hoping we get the players Poch wants to bolster our forthcoming campaign and continue to develop the best of our young players.

Interesting that you choose not to be more healthily sceptical of the lone negative voice. Especially when virtually all other voices have slammed the majority of the post you quote.

To confirm: The Goat is not one person. It is many-faced.

My point stands though: people jump to the "Spurs are responsible for fucking this up" side than the other side, and that perplexes me.

Would be surprised if Poch doesn't have a role in all transfers.

 

[Blackrat1299]

I think this has something to do witha 20% sell on clause. Can't remember where I saw it.


THFC|From One Yid to Another
Latest reports today say Estudiantes officials have left London without agreement they want a 20% sell on clause in the agreement..... Levy doesn't like a sell-on clause.

 

[yanno]

Interesting that you choose not to be more healthily sceptical of the lone negative voice. Especially when virtually all other voices have slammed the majority of the post you quote.

To confirm: The Goat is not one person. It is many-faced.

My point stands though: people jump to the "Spurs are responsible for fucking this up" side than the other side, and that perplexes me.

Would be surprised if Poch doesn't have a role in all transfers.

I'm healthily sceptical of all ITK....

Interesting that as SC Staff you describe The Goat's ITK as having been "slammed".