Kane's accent

[Matthew Wyatt]

He's got an Essex accent, though not a particularly strong one. He definitely does have a mild speech impediment though. A kind of lisp - it almost sounds like his tongue's a bit too long and it gets in the way of pronouncing some words. But it's just part of him and adds to his humbleness, which, aside from his footballing skills, is part of the reason we love him so much.

I think it's only classed as a speech impediment if it hinders verbal communication, but he does have distinctive speech patterns perhaps caused by, as you suggest, an oversized tongue. Another big-tongued Essex boy is Jamie Oliver, who I think shares something of Harry's distinctive speech, although Oliver's Essex accent is much stronger because he exaggerates it as part of his image. Harry also seems to have something adenoidal going on with the mouth-breathing.

Feels a bit wrong discussing him like this, being neither a doctor nor a speech therapist. Harry's a thoughtful and articulate young man who always comes across very well in interviews. His speech 'peculiarity' is as unimportant as were Gareth Bale's enormous ears. Curious parallels there ... emergent Spurs superstars with athleticism and power ... ambition and humility ... childhood sweetheart girlfriends ... and an oversized facial feature. I'll stop now.

 

[Gassin's finest]

So the lad's got a bit of a lisp... he's still about 20 times more articulate than your average scouser and/or arsenal fan.

 

[Lemon]

But now we eat diets rich in Calcium Phosphate (hydroxyapatite) agitates and the like, which often lead to under formed elements, such as the dental arch. As said already by a poster above, excessive finger/thumb/dummy sucking may exacerbate this (though I suggest that the underlying dietary issue is the main driver, the pacifier is an environmental trigger IMO, creating a weakness which the pacifying action worsens).

Weston Price found cultures which moved away from their traditional diets then become highly prone to facial malformation:

 

[npearl4spurs]

I wasn't sure if we were going to be talking about his accent of his ascent...ties well into the conversation, actually

 

[Lemon]

Chronic Mouth Breathing and its Effect on Your Teeth and Gums
Weston Price, in Nutrition & Physical Degeneration published in 1939, first documented the relationship between chronic mouth-breathing and a range of dental disorders including: dental decay, periodontal disease, malocclusion – teeth not fitting together properly when the mouth is shut, anterior open bite (prominent top teeth), temporo-mandibular joint (TMJ) dysfunction and reduced dental arch space (narrow roof of the mouth). Narrowing of the upper palate increases tooth crowding and the need for tooth extraction.
Mouth-breathers have more acidic saliva while that of nasal-breathers tends to be more alkaline. Alkaline saliva supports better oral hygiene with healthier teeth and gums. Even more importantly, the way you breathe influences the shape of your face and the quality of your smile. In regards to mouth-breathing and orthodontics, Dr Nic Anderson (BDS), a dentist at one of Auckland’s busiest dental practices, has this to say:

Open-mouth breathing and incorrect tongue posture can result in crooked teeth, under-developed jaw and dry gums, contributing to tooth cavities, periodontal disease and bad breath.
“I strongly believe that improper breathing is a major contributory factor for the orthodontic problems I see. If this cause is not addressed the success of the orthodontic treatment will be limited and the chance of relapse (treatment failure) is very high. Unfortunately, the traditional approach of waiting for all adult teeth to be present before placing braces, and ignoring the underlying cause, means that the treatment required is normally far more invasive. If I had my way I would have corrective breathing therapy compulsory for all school-age children.”
The Buteyko Breathing Clinic work closely with Auckland dentists, including Nic and the staff at Alpers Dental practice, to ensure the best outcomes for their clients. Orthodontists and dentists going back to Westin Price in the 1930s have long recognised the role of breathing in dental and facial development. By learning to correct breathing patterns, an individual can prevent dental problems occurring and in many cases they can begin to be reversed.
"When I see a child for the first time seeking orthodontic treatment the first thing I assess is the breathing pattern. All children who are chronic mouth-breathers will develop a malocclusion" - Dr John Flutter BDS

http://www.buteykobreathing.nz/webapps/i/76035/193371/288010?showMobileSite=1

 

[worcestersauce]

I breathe through my mouth and have perfect teeth, speak perfectly well and what's more, I don't snore.
I'm dumbfounded that not satisfied telling us what we should and shouldn't put in our mouths by way of food and drink some sod is now telling me not to bloody well breathe with my mouth open!
Well he can stick it up his arse, hopefully that won't dislodge too many of his teeth.

 

[Geyzer Soze]

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Big tongue, slightt overbite, makes him sound as if he's talking with his moith full. Still surprisingly articulate for an English footballer. In fact, surprisingly articulate for an Englishman in general given that Glenn Hoddle and Teddy Sheringham are probably far more representative of your average 'greater London' accents.

I breathe through my mouth more than I should, my teeth are wonky as hell but I've never made any connection and a certainly haven't sufferered from any speech problems (unless we're counting an inability to stop talking).

 

[Lemon]

It's like saying the world isn't flat to a number of you I see. Sorry about that.

http://www.knowyourteeth.com/infobites/abc/article/?abc=m&iid=296&aid=7327

If we don't think we are what we eat (going back to what our parents ate, or were deficient in, such as the health state of male germ cell in the sperm), what do we think we are? Simply Chi?

People perhaps ought to reflect that maybe we are also creating lots of mouth breathers, who there is no wrong in (myself am one slightly, but my daughter will not be, which is what my rant/perspective is from), but we are not allowing them to fully blossom and reach quite full potential (myself included here, everybody really), that public focus should be given that we are hard framed animals with a massive new dietary landscape which antagonises our wellbeing.

Or,

 

[greaves]

Big tongue, slightt overbite, makes him sound as if he's talking with his moith full. Still surprisingly articulate for an English footballer. In fact, surprisingly articulate for an Englishman in general given that Glenn Hoddle and Teddy Sheringham are probably far more representative of your average 'greater London' accents.

I breathe through my mouth more than I should, my teeth are wonky as hell but I've never made any connection and a certainly haven't sufferered from any speech problems (unless we're counting an inability to stop talking).

Wonky teeth can be corrected with a brace.
Kane makes do with a hat-trick...

 

[Lighty64]

He is a Londoner and therefore speaks the queen's English perfectly, it's only when you leave London that you start getting funny accents.

Oi mate, what youu on abouuut I is from London, and now live in artfordshure, and it aint change me

Arry might of had a rough childhood being on peedies books down the road, with old pedie putting his finger somewhere checking him on a medical

 

[neilp]

So on reading this thread Kane's real problem is that he has either got a really fat tongue and/or a really long tongue, I don't think his missus would be too worried about his pronunciation.

 

[monkeynick]

Awesome, this thread has taught me loads.

 

[Hoddtastic72]

I think his accent sounds fine...certainly better than a Brummies

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

The dialect is known as Supermanian...

Only Kane, Messi and, Ronaldo speak it. Though i do believe that Alli is learning it.

 

[cliff jones]

Accent totally typical of where he's from. Although many white kids in the wider area, particularly towards the stow, have this modern hybrid accent reflecting the mixed communities they're from. I lived in Wood Street and Hale End for a good while when I was younger.

Smashing fella though it seems. Expresses himself well too.

So lucky he's one of our own.

 

[DEFchenkOE]

Forget Kane's accent, it's Dier's accent I can't get my head around. How does a guy brought up in Cheltenham and Lisbon sound like he's been living in Broadwater farm all his life??

 

[Hoops]

Forget Kane's accent, it's Dier's accent I can't get my head around. How does a guy brought up in Cheltenham and Lisbon sound like he's been living in Broadwater farm all his life??

He flips between being well spoken, and a alli g wannabe in same sentence. Weird.

 

[Insomnia]

Wonky teeth can be corrected with a brace.
Kane makes do with a hat-trick...

 

[DotNetCoder]

Fuck me, remind me to never get health advice from the SC community. There's some RAWK level of ignorance in here. If I came for advice for a migraine, I'd even up being told to get a lobotomy and my balls cut off!

Anyway Harry Kane most likely has the condition of cleft palate:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleft_lip_and_palate

But dont take my word, I'm just an SC poster