Lennon and spurscommunity

[fozzi44]

I agree that you have to look at the bigger picture but, at the end of the day he won't ever be judged by how many times he skins a player. He will be judged as a winger in the number of assists and goals he scores because skinning a player with no end product is more or less worthless.

how can you say that. Skinning a few players and laying the ball of to someone is space who may in turn pass it and get the assist themselves means lennon wouldnt get the assist and his good work isnt reflected in the stats.

How many times does this happen in football - all the bloody time.

Therefore ur statement is well wide of the mark.

 

[tRiKS]

He won't be sold and neither will Jenas. Lennon is 20 and Jenas 25. They will flourish like grass in the summer.

Beware of season 2, starring...

shame then that Football is a winter sport

 

[nidge]

how can you say that. Skinning a few players and laying the ball of to someone is space who may in turn pass it and get the assist themselves means lennon wouldnt get the assist and his good work isnt reflected in the stats.

How many times does this happen in football - all the bloody time.

Therefore ur statement is well wide of the mark.

When was the last time lennon skinned his fullback and laid the ball of for a team mate who then assisted in a goal?

 

[Defsta]

When was the last time lennon skinned his fullback and laid the ball of for a team mate who then assisted in a goal?

Errr..... Last night :shrug:

















In his dream :dance:

 

[tRiKS]

I suspect the pro Lennons' also think Beckham's lack of full back skinning ability make Beckhams value to a team secondary to that of Lennon's and must be sick that he's gonna get 100 caps today.

I'm alo interested (in a patronising way) to know what the average age is of the Lennonphiles compared to the Lennonphobes. I wager the Philes will average out much younger.

I think Lennon is decent... nothing more and would be good value as a sub behind a much higher quality option for us on the right.

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[paul_1979yid]

A pointless, predictable and moronic reply. He doesn't have the midfielders with enough verve around him (a la Carrick and i make that 2 years ago by my estimations) to thread him or free him with a decent pass.

I'm getting that deja vu feeling again.

Yea as the passes Lennon RECIEVES all determine if he can beat the full back or not and where his shots and crosses go??

Take a look at your self for the moronic reply. Take your rose tinted glasses of and admit that he just is nt very good now he has been found out by defenders

 

[PYiddy]

His workrate and toughness have improved dramatically this year. he gets stuck in a lot more and his ball-winning has improved as well.

OK, his final ball is still lacking, but his overall game has moved forward.

 

[fozzi44]

When was the last time lennon skinned his fullback and laid the ball of for a team mate who then assisted in a goal?

thats right, it never happens.

Ur point is correct :roll:

edit: unfortunately i am not one of these people that can recall specific instances in the mould we are talking about here.

But i do remember him playing a back heal to someone the other day in the chelsea match who then layed the ball to berba who should have scored and won the game for us.

 

[fozzi44]

Yea as the passes Lennon RECIEVES all determine if he can beat the full back or not and where his shots and crosses go??

Take a look at your self for the moronic reply. Take your rose tinted glasses of and admit that he just is nt very good now he has been found out by defenders

sorry, how exactly has he been found out by defenders. Last i looked he was still skinning them on a regular basis.

Lennon only has himself to blame for the poor final ball and lack of vision at the by line. A well beaten defender doesnt come into the equation.

 

[DC_Boy]

JJ has been a better mid than lennon for the past two years

 

[fozzi44]

JJ has been a better mid than lennon for the past two years

debatable and a matterof opinion surely.

Personally i like Lennon, seems to play well in big games.

JJ has a tendancy to go missing.

 

[paul_1979yid]

sorry, how exactly has he been found out by defenders. Last i looked he was still skinning them on a regular basis.

Lennon only has himself to blame for the poor final ball and lack of vision at the by line. A well beaten defender doesnt come into the equation.

When did you last look then? Last season???

 

[fozzi44]

When did you last look then? Last season???

awk come off it.

He still skins people on a regular basis FFS. :roll:

 

[paul_1979yid]

awk come off it.

He still skins people on a regular basis FFS. :roll:

Yea ok.

 

[PLTuck]

We would be mad to sell Lennon at this stage. Why spend 3 years developing him (and his overall game HAS developed) for someone else to reap the rewards of it. He is simply too young to make a final judgement.

I guess the Lennon-phobes (TM) would have got shot of that one trick pony Ronaldo a few years ago too?

Oh, and 36 for all it matters....

 

[paul_1979yid]

We would be mad to sell Lennon at this stage. Why spend 3 years developing him (and his overall game HAS developed) for someone else to reap the rewards of it. He is simply too young to make a final judgement.

I guess the Lennon-phobes (TM) would have got shot of that one trick pony Ronaldo a few years ago too?

Oh, and 36 for all it matters....

One trick pony Ronaldo?????

 

[tRiKS]

how can you say that. Skinning a few players and laying the ball of to someone is space who may in turn pass it and get the assist themselves means lennon wouldnt get the assist and his good work isnt reflected in the stats.

How many times does this happen in football - all the bloody time.

Therefore ur statement is well wide of the mark.

Every single player you would compare to lennon also has the same criteria though. Bently and Beckham and Young and Navas and silva and ronaldo and Davies etc all make passes that get passed to set up goals.. all drag full backs to allow space... unquanitlfiable secondary and third phase assists... which brings us back to the actual assist stat. Lennon's is poor because he's not a very good crosser of the ball.

age is an increasingly poor excuse

 

[PLTuck]

One trick pony Ronaldo?????

You did see him in his first season right? He made Taarabt look composed.

 

[onlyonekeano]

I actually cannot believe people are suggesting that we sell Lennon - admittedly he has not been on great form, but do people have such short memories that they do not remember him breaking into the England WC Squad and soon after even getting a few starts for the national team? That does not happen unless the kid has some talent.

There is always so much support for signing young players from foreign countries with massive amounts of potential - we already have one in our squad and people want to get rid of him??? He has not become a bad player overnight, and could potentially be one of star performers over the next 10 years IF WE GIVE HIM TIME TO DEVELOP some sort of consistency and end product to his game. How many players (Fowler & Owen excluded) reach their peak before the turn 21?

By all means sign another winger to give him competition and also prevent him from tiring (both factors that may have contributed to his drop in form this season), but to sell him would be ridiculous.

 

[tRiKS]

We would be mad to sell Lennon at this stage. Why spend 3 years developing him (and his overall game HAS developed) for someone else to reap the rewards of it. He is simply too young to make a final judgement.

I guess the Lennon-phobes (TM) would have got shot of that one trick pony Ronaldo a few years ago too?

Oh, and 36 for all it matters....

I don't think Lennon-phobes nessaraliy want rid i just think they can see a major flaw in his game and as a result see an opportunity to get a better player in his position.

C. ronaldo had an inconsistent first season from then he went on to become a superstar. and is now one of the top 3 players in the world. IF C.Ronaldo had continued on from his first seaon without enough improvement then yes of course we'd be saying the same about him?!!? but he didn't and we're not!?!
Lennon-philes would not appreciate you Bringing up C.ronaldo as an example becasue it's a brilliant point to help strengthen the case of the phobes. Doh!!