Let's All Laugh At... Let's all laugh at Chelsea thread

[Maxtremist]

fair point. just making the case that it's easy to do transfers when you have no issues with fee or wages. It's why they can always seemingly do transfers in hours where it takes us months if not years. if they/city/united/liverpool have a need they just go and pay whatever it takes to fill it. just annoys me because this is the one real area we just cannot compete in.

This is (weirdly) why I have respect for Liverpool and City as a club (supporters is a different question). Yes they both have the money to essentially buy whoever they want to but both Pool and City seem to actually have a plan/strategy with all their transfers and are buying who they really want. Chelsea and United both through money at the problem and get their transfers done quickly but not always who they need. They both almost buy for the sake of buying.

 

[nattydredd]

Quite telling that Sancho usurped Pulicic at Dortmund. Dortmund then sell Pulicic to Chelsea for 60 odd million

 

[thebenjamin]

Efficient possibly but not successful. They almost get their deals done in spite of others then realise their deals don't actually work out in the long run.

Batshuayi they did well but almost in spite of us and it didn't work for him there. Morata they completed 'efficiently' but again hasn't worked out or been successful. They also still need a striker as they've been unable to replace Costa and it says a lot that their closet replacement has been Giroud.

That's true, and I'm not putting forward Chelsea as the be-all and end-all of how to do business. But it's pretty clear we're facing an imminent exodus of key personnel but we don't seem to be aware of the giant iceberg right in front of us.

 

[Maxtremist]

That's true, and I'm not putting forward Chelsea as the be-all and end-all of how to do business. But it's pretty clear we're facing an imminent exodus of key personnel but we don't seem to be aware of the giant iceberg right in front of us.

Why/how is it pretty clear? Obviously can never be without the rose tinted glasses but I really can't see how we've got an imminent exodus in-front of us? Key players tied down to long-term contracts and a new stadium coming. If the Poch to Man Utd stuff actually becomes more of a reality then we are starting to sweat but we're not there yet.

As for aware of what's infront of us, I get the feeling that whilst yes we haven't bought much lately, the key thing is also we haven't sold. So I feel like if we did sell we'd replace. (sadly not of the exact same quality Walker/Aurier being an example but a replacement that can more than do the job)

 

[DJS]

So frustrating when you see Chelsea just going in there balls deep and getting it done (like Jorginho in summer).

And we'll still most probably be fannying about looking for 'the right players'...

 

[thebenjamin]

Why/how is it pretty clear? Obviously can never be without the rose tinted glasses but I really can't see how we've got an imminent exodus in-front of us? Key players tied down to long-term contracts and a new stadium coming. If the Poch to Man Utd stuff actually becomes more of a reality then we are starting to sweat but we're not there yet.

As for aware of what's infront of us, I get the feeling that whilst yes we haven't bought much lately, the key thing is also we haven't sold. So I feel like if we did sell we'd replace. (sadly not of the exact same quality Walker/Aurier being an example but a replacement that can more than do the job)

Well it's widely reported that Man Utd and Real Madrid are both coming very hard to take Pochettino this summer. Given the fact Poch challenged the club to 'be brave' after turning down Madrid last time, and our version of that was taking 3 months to not sign Jack Grealish, being realistic there's a considerable chance he's going to conclude he's taken us as far as he can. It would be an enormous surprise to most unbiased people in football if he were to turn down those 2 offers to stay at a club where he's apparently got absolutely no power in the transfer market.

Dembele obviously is going, as is Alderweireld. I don't imagine Christian Eriksen is running his contract down and turning down all our offers for any other reason than to facilitate his exit from the club. So that's 3 absolutely key personnel and probably the manager leaving before next season.

So we're facing an incredibly big job just to stand still.

 

[spursfan77]

So frustrating when you see Chelsea just going in there balls deep and getting it done (like Jorginho in summer).

And we'll still most probably be fannying about looking for 'the right players'...

He's a right player if ever I saw one.

If Eriksen goes then he's a player who could well of filled that void. But because we are waiting on the player to make a decision we are dilly dallying around. We need to make stronger and more decisive decisions in the transfer market.

 

[Maxtremist]

Well it's widely reported that Man Utd and Real Madrid are both coming very hard to take Pochettino this summer. Given the fact Poch challenged the club to 'be brave' after turning down Madrid last time, and our version of that was taking 3 months to not sign Jack Grealish, being realistic there's a considerable chance he's going to conclude he's taken us as far as he can. It would be an enormous surprise to most unbiased people in football if he were to turn down those 2 offers to stay at a club where he's apparently got absolutely no power in the transfer market.

Dembele obviously is going, as is Alderweireld. I don't imagine Christian Eriksen is running his contract down and turning down all our offers for any other reason than to facilitate his exit from the club. So that's 3 absolutely key personnel and probably the manager leaving before next season.

So we're facing an incredibly big job just to stand still.

You'd think we'd have been failing in the league and so far behind our rivals. Yes, there's every chance Poch leaves for Madrid or Man Utd. I'm not denying that... but the Madrid link has been there for ages and nothing has come of that so far. And whilst the United job is undoubtedly tempting from an objective viewpoint, Poch has repeatedly talked about the stadium, how much he wants to take us there and the job he's doing here so it's surely reasonable to think that there's a very good chance he stays and see's what more he can do with us when we have our stadium.

As for our players, again you'd think we'd been failing all season. Dembele is an odd one as going into the season you'd have said he's such a key player for us, but he's not really played that much so actually is he that Key? We're short on CM especially with Dier injured too at the moment but if Demebele does leave it doesn't actually affect much for us if you look at how we've played this season.
Toby will be a loss, but we made it to 3rd pretty much without him last season and whilst he is a great defender, we've got Sanchez, Foyth and Verts still on our books so we're not struggling there just yet. And like I said, I truly doubt we wouldn't replace as there's not really much evidence to say we don't. You can for sure argue we don't strengthen but we at the very least tend to replace.

Eriksen is the key one, I don't argue with you there. But for now we have him. And if/when he does go Levy is never gonna sell him for cheap so there will be money to spend for a replacement so it's not all doom and gloom.

Keeping this on topic with the thread, yes, Chelsea do their business quickly and seem to not have too many issues buying players... but they're not always buying the right players and are a weirdly balanced side. They also have very little stability and constantly seem to be fluctuating between being world beaters and terrible. In many ways, them buying players etc... is to catch up with us. So sure, we should be somewhat worried/careful about those around us but it's not as if we're doing nothing and falling apart at the seems or anything like that

 

[allatsea]

This is (weirdly) why I have respect for Liverpool and City as a club (supporters is a different question). Yes they both have the money to essentially buy whoever they want to but both Pool and City seem to actually have a plan/strategy with all their transfers and are buying who they really want. Chelsea and United both through money at the problem and get their transfers done quickly but not always who they need. They both almost buy for the sake of buying.

Many of here seem to want us to buy anybody as long as we keep buying.

 

[thebenjamin]

Many of here seem to want us to buy anybody as long as we keep buying.

 

[thebenjamin]

You'd think we'd have been failing in the league and so far behind our rivals. Yes, there's every chance Poch leaves for Madrid or Man Utd. I'm not denying that... but the Madrid link has been there for ages and nothing has come of that so far. And whilst the United job is undoubtedly tempting from an objective viewpoint, Poch has repeatedly talked about the stadium, how much he wants to take us there and the job he's doing here so it's surely reasonable to think that there's a very good chance he stays and see's what more he can do with us when we have our stadium.

As for our players, again you'd think we'd been failing all season. Dembele is an odd one as going into the season you'd have said he's such a key player for us, but he's not really played that much so actually is he that Key? We're short on CM especially with Dier injured too at the moment but if Demebele does leave it doesn't actually affect much for us if you look at how we've played this season.
Toby will be a loss, but we made it to 3rd pretty much without him last season and whilst he is a great defender, we've got Sanchez, Foyth and Verts still on our books so we're not struggling there just yet. And like I said, I truly doubt we wouldn't replace as there's not really much evidence to say we don't. You can for sure argue we don't strengthen but we at the very least tend to replace.

Eriksen is the key one, I don't argue with you there. But for now we have him. And if/when he does go Levy is never gonna sell him for cheap so there will be money to spend for a replacement so it's not all doom and gloom.

Keeping this on topic with the thread, yes, Chelsea do their business quickly and seem to not have too many issues buying players... but they're not always buying the right players and are a weirdly balanced side. They also have very little stability and constantly seem to be fluctuating between being world beaters and terrible. In many ways, them buying players etc... is to catch up with us. So sure, we should be somewhat worried/careful about those around us but it's not as if we're doing nothing and falling apart at the seems or anything like that

Good points. Although unfortunately this summer CE will only have 12 months on his deal so we won't get that much for him. In any case, I imagine he'll be advised by his agent to stay until the end of his contract so he can move for free and get paid a truly phenomenal amount of money. Obviously we'll try and force him out so we can at least get some money for him.

But yeah indeed, off topic for this thread. Fuck Chelsea!

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

Chelsea continue to collect players to stop their closest rivals from buying them. This strategy has been in operation for over a decade now. They do like a vast collection of midfielders in particularly.

 

[Donki]

So frustrating when you see Chelsea just going in there balls deep and getting it done (like Jorginho in summer).

And we'll still most probably be fannying about looking for 'the right players'...

Quite funny though we are ahead of them, IMO Pulisic with struggle, he is rapid and skilful yes but I haven’t seen much to suggest he will become a world beater. He reminds me a lot on a young Lennon if I am being honest.

 

[yankspurs]

Quite funny though we are ahead of them, IMO Pulisic with struggle, he is rapid and skilful yes but I haven’t seen much to suggest he will become a world beater. He reminds me a lot on a young Lennon if I am being honest.

He needs to be developed which will not happen at Chelsea. He’ll be fucked off to Holland after Chelsea make some money on their US tour.

 

['O Zio]

Quite funny though we are ahead of them, IMO Pulisic with struggle, he is rapid and skilful yes but I haven’t seen much to suggest he will become a world beater. He reminds me a lot on a young Lennon if I am being honest.

He's nothing like Lennon. He's not been quite as good this year but before that he's shown enough to suggest he's got huge potential. At his best he's got potential to be like Eriksen but with more pace and trickery. Like a cross between Eriksen and Son. I don't think Chelsea is the right move for him though. Hell probably end up another player wondering what might've been.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Really depressing how efficient Chelsea are with their transfers. A threat of Hazard leaving, so they get his replacement signed up in no time flat, a player we've been chasing for years.

It's amazing how motivational twelve Russian's in a minibus parked outside your house can be

Nah, it's all down to the overwhelming wages offered, I'm sure of it. We have player's agents barter for more wages/less bonuses/more image rights, etc. - Chelsea have the funds to just offer flat wages that rival anyone and the attraction to be given money rather than earning it from performance based bonuses would be huge.

It's an issue we've faced for a while but in a way I like it - our structure rewards achievement, theirs rewards just turning up for work. There's no motivation to achieve but an expectation of being payed top dollar. Players aren't punished if they don't win the league/silverware, it's the manager cops the heat. Not a fan of that way of running things, I'm glad we've apparently moved away from managerial musical chairs for a while and players being as responsible for the team performance, as reflected in after-match interviews.

 

[Donki]

He's nothing like Lennon. He's not been quite as good this year but before that he's shown enough to suggest he's got huge potential. At his best he's got potential to be like Eriksen but with more pace and trickery. Like a cross between Eriksen and Son. I don't think Chelsea is the right move for him though. Hell probably end up another player wondering what might've been.

I don’t see it sorry, Sancho is head and shoulders above him hinge the *trade* Dortmund made, their fans don’t seem that bothered.

 

[class of 62]

Well it's widely reported that Man Utd and Real Madrid are both coming very hard to take Pochettino this summer. Given the fact Poch challenged the club to 'be brave' after turning down Madrid last time, and our version of that was taking 3 months to not sign Jack Grealish, being realistic there's a considerable chance he's going to conclude he's taken us as far as he can. It would be an enormous surprise to most unbiased people in football if he were to turn down those 2 offers to stay at a club where he's apparently got absolutely no power in the transfer market.

Dembele obviously is going, as is Alderweireld. I don't imagine Christian Eriksen is running his contract down and turning down all our offers for any other reason than to facilitate his exit from the club. So that's 3 absolutely key personnel and probably the manager leaving before next season.

So we're facing an incredibly big job just to stand still.

Look on the bright side ffs?

 

[Primativ]

Chelsea spent £150 million on Keppa and Morata. Laughable.

 

[SirNiNyHotspur]

Chelsea spent £150 million on Keppa and Morata. Laughable.

We can pick many bad transfers City, Liverpool, United and Chelsea have done but at the end of the day their money wins and has won them many trophies, their value increases as a club with their success, Arsenal and Spurs as long as their owners remain frugal will find it hard to add to the trophy cabinet, I hope now the real estate project is of the way we can focus on increasing our value this way, success means more fans, means more money, means more success, we need to join those 4 in that loop rather than the Arsenal loop.