Let's All Laugh At... Let's All Laugh At West Ham

[nightgoat]

Jelly hasn't been playing well for a while. I think that's why Everton sold him.

At best he's a 1 in 4 striker who has a purple patch in his first few months at a club then goes seriously off the boil. Expect him to be someone else's desperation signing next summer.

 

[whitechina]

At best he's a 1 in 4 striker who has a purple patch in his first few months at a club then goes seriously off the boil. Expect him to be someone else's desperation signing next summer.

As long as he's not ours I'm ok with that

 

[nailsy]

Interesting..http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-34260708

 

[Lilbaz]

Interesting..http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-34260708

Win fucking win.

So much bollocks by the lldc stance.

Commercially sensitive that could jeapordise future deals? How many other football clubs are going to try and get a 99 year lease at the os?

The decision has been tested in court? No, the old decision was tested in court and found illegal.

Beautiful.

 

[Stoof]

Win fucking win.

So much bollocks by the lldc stance.

Commercially sensitive that could jeapordise future deals? How many other football clubs are going to try and get a 99 year lease at the os?

The decision has been tested in court? No, the old decision was tested in court and found illegal.

Beautiful.

Commercial sensitivity is a good argument generally. Just not in this situation though.

Great news for the taxpayer.

 

[robbiedee]

...so I make that that 22 days where they can run around hiding any evidence of dodgyness in a Russian World cup bid style...

"err all of our computers were wiped clean and destroyed after the deal was done...we're squeaky clean - Honest Gov!"

I hope people are named and shamed as an outcomeof this - Boris and slag-bag Brady especially. I'd also like to see some sanctions imposed on WHU (just for fun) - a 15 point deduction would be a good start

 

[Lilbaz]

...so I make that that 22 days where they can run around hiding any evidence of dodgyness in a Russian World cup bid style...

"err all of our computers were wiped clean and destroyed after the deal was done...we're squeaky clean - Honest Gov!"

I hope people are named and shamed as an outcomeof this - Boris and slag-bag Brady especially. I'd also like to see some sanctions imposed on WHU (just for fun) - a 15 point deduction would be a good start

There wouldn't be any sanctions by the premier league, but if the eu decides that there this as state aid they would face a large fine and have to pay the difference. Could be well over £100m and more rent per year. With upton park already sold this would really fuck them. And i will not be able to stop smiling.

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

Fanfuckingtastic! Good work all those who fought or this.

 

[Misfit]

I think the figures may be so low as to shock even us.

As long as the end result is that entire club disappearing, either literally or figuratively into a sea of debt and quick relegation, then I'll be satisfied. No more will we have to hear their incessant bleating about being our rivals. Eff off to the same division as Millwall already.

 

[CJMurray]

I didn't really get it until Saturday. I'm not talking about liking the view or the vibe. I'm talking about the converted stadium as an idea. I thought it was a stadium that had been twisted and torn down into a dysfunctional 54,000 seat arena. Sold our heritage for a mess of pottage and 19,000 extra fans that will keep us up with the Joneses but nowhere near the Smiths.

It is only after having realised the enormousness of the change, and then gone home and thought about what I had seen that I realised what this move actually is. It is a move to an 80,000 seat stadium that is broadly the same size as Wembley. You can copy and paste them next to each other on Google Maps to compare if you like. I did. They are broadly the same size. Yes, the shape is slightly different and both have gaps from pitch to stand, and there is a curvature to the Olympic stadium stands, but I know this falls within the bounds of acceptable variation, having attended events at both now.

We are moving to a stadium that is similar to Wembley. We are moving to a stadium in respect of which all of those horrific gaps between lower and upper tier can and will be eliminated. Just not in season 1. We are moving to a stadium where all of those ghastly cordoned-off seats can be uncovered and made available. Just not in season 1. We are moving to a stadium where even the distance from row A lower tier to pitch can be eliminated. Just not in season 1. It might be in season 5, it might be in season 10. But the implication is that we are moving to a stadium where we will eventually draw in 80,000 to 90,000 people per week. Those figures assume that our ownership at that juncture will be funding players of the calibre that would warrant such crowds. It's a safe assumption. With correct price points we can get there even before the Messis and the Ronaldos land in east London. It's a question of momentum. The one feeds off the other. Crowds go up, investment arrives. Investment arrives, crowds go up. It's the Field of Dreams principle. If you build it, they will come. If you move into an arena with scope for 90,000 people, you create the conditions for that to happen.

I had been misled by the marketing strategy that was designed to make us think that we were moving into a 54,000 seater stadium. The purpose of which was to pace our growth, in stages. But one offshoot of that is that it has made the fans believe that the initially imperfect way the stadium is set up is the way the stadium must and will be forever. It isn't. And that's the key thing. The step we are taking next year is the first step on the journey to becoming a Barcelona, not a Spurs. As the purchaser of Man City said, it's about the infrastructure. The only reason Man City are top of the league and not playing Rotherham this season is because as the Sheikh said, it's about the infrastructure. Well, if the CoMs infrastructure was promising enough to transform City, then where on earth do you think our new Wembley-sized home is going to take us?

Obviously, we would all rather our new stadium had been purposely designed with a big kop, and the closest possible proximity between row Z and the centre circle. Spurs will have that. We won't. But it will be perfectly good enough, view-wise and atmosphere-wise, and we will end up with 30,000 more people at our games than they will. And that will ensure in the long term that our natural place in the order of things will settle comfortably above them. We don't have a kop, and we do have a curvature, but our setup is not so different from Wembley, and I was happy with it on Saturday, and none of this has come about because we have a billionaire owner, or ten league trophies in the cabinet, or two hundred million fans across the world, but through naked serendipity and geographical fortune that have happened to land at our medium-sized feet rather than at Villa's or at Palace, or Everton, or QPR; and it is going to transform our club beyond our wildest dreams. So, moaning about things like teething problems with the walk to the station doesn't come across, in the final analysis, as myopic or ungrateful so much as either absurdly surreal or as surreally absurd.

The best way to dispute what I have said is to try to create a sense of doubt that the club will successfully find new investment, that it will successfully fill all of those seats. That we will remain in our 54,000 gap-stadiumed limbo forever. You can spin that line if you want. But I don't think it's tenable because so many people have been priced out of football for so long by so much that demand is highly price-elastic. Those 20,000 cordoned-off seats. Do you think they would remain unsold for Premier League games at £15 a ticket? £10? £5? No. By hook or by crook, we are headed for gates way above 54,000. It's irrelevant that £5 x 20,000 isn't a hill of beans. 75,000 people at your home matches is. Higher crowds bring attention prestige, and investment. Investment brings yet higher crowds. Larger infrastructure makes higher crowds more possible. We are moving into an unstoppable virtuous circle next year both literally and figuratively. If you were to draw up a list of European football clubs best positioned for long-term revenue growth, West Ham takes the gold medal. And the next Sheikh along will see it, act on it, and make it happen.

Unbelievable delusions of grandeur. Imagine thinking they could ever consistently fill out a 8/90,000 seater stadium.

 

[Lilbaz]

Unbelievable delusions of grandeur. Imagine thinking they could ever consistently fill out a 8/90,000 seater stadium.

He's forgotten his medication again.

Fuck our new stadium will have a larger capacity and much larger coorporate revenue as well as using it for other events throughout the week. Yet still that will just about push us up to a similar turnover to liverpool. Well behind the big 4. How much extra investment do they expect when charging £99 for a season ticket and getting no money for amenities?

Liverpool, chelsea, city, everton are all expanding their stadiums. That leaves west ham as a midtable club. Better than being a yo yo club but not good enough.

 

[Dillspur]

He's forgotten his medication again.

Fuck our new stadium will have a larger capacity and much larger coorporate revenue as well as using it for other events throughout the week. Yet still that will just about push us up to a similar turnover to liverpool. Well behind the big 4. How much extra investment do they expect when charging £99 for a season ticket and getting no money for amenities?

Liverpool, chelsea, city, everton are all expanding their stadiums. That leaves west ham as a midtable club. Better than being a yo yo club but not good enough.

Er hello, they won the world cup, once they have the stadium there will be no stopping them, you think it's cold in arsenals shadow, wait until west ham cast one over Europe.........

 

[robbiedee]

so reading that beeb report...LLDC will pay for 'facilities and services' (pitch maintenance and stewards on match days) guesstimated at £2.5m a year.

West Ham will pay (a suggested amount) of £2.5m a year rent...

Hmmm...a similar amount. So basically, at a glance, WHU are paying for 'facilities and services' and getting the stadium rent free.

Without the information being released publicly, it's clear that there is something super fishy going on. I'm looking forward to the revelations to come...please, please, please fuck up any ideas of grandeur the Spammers currently have...

 

[Lilbaz]

The righteous anger over on kumb is funny.
They honestly believe they have done the world a favour by moving into the os. That it is all livingstons fault for not planning to give it to them in the first place (forgetting that they had negotiations when it was being planned but they were not willing to meat the conversion costs and the reduction to 25k was decided as the best route).

 

[spursfan77]

They won again today.

They've really been transformed by recruiting David moyes's old head of recruitment/scouting at Everton. He's picked out some good players for them unfortunately.

 

[Xeeleeyid]

They won again today.

They've really been transformed by recruiting David moyes's old head of recruitment/scouting at Everton. He's picked out some good players for them unfortunately.

They only won because they played a half against 10 men. Their results against the big boys have been very impressive but they have had a very mixed bag of it in the other fixtures. Their recruitment hasn't been that great if you ask me, Payet looks a steal but Ogbonna looks pretty ropey and Obiang looks average too.

 

[barry]

They won again today.

They've really been transformed by recruiting David moyes's old head of recruitment/scouting at Everton. He's picked out some good players for them unfortunately.

Let's see where they lie at the end of the season. Palace would've won today if Gayle kept his composure.

 

[spursfan77]

Let's see where they lie at the end of the season. Palace would've won today if Gayle kept his composure.

I agree. Didn't see their game yesterday but if that's the case then fair enough

 

[tommo84]

They also won at Selhurst last season when they were still a bag of shit.

 

[Shadydan]

As I said before West Ham are a problem this season.