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JerryGarcia

Dark star crashes...
May 18, 2006
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Either way it will all end in tears but I foresee a salty mixture of our tears of laughter and their tears of dispair.
 

beats1

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Feb 22, 2010
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Not just me hoping wildly here (although I obviously am, just to get the stalkers off our backs and focused on Millwall again) but this move could finish them, not make them. Losing your own ground, your true home and massive part of identity for a compromise stadium? That's huge tbh. They'll feel adrift and if they're banking on weekly attendance boost of 10K-15K of random tourists etc to bring in filthy lucre then they're dreaming.

The next relegation might not be followed by a quick return. More yo than yo-yo.

Or they could continue bouncing between the two tiers as they have done for much of their history. Global domination is never happening though.
The issue is this isn't what the fans signed up to, they had such a hatred of us they supported this move from their home ground. Now Im generalising in this next statement, I don't think many of their fans care about moving away from East Ham as its not the area it use to be and they think its a shit hole!

Here the stadium isn't even the world class stadium they thought it would be:
  • only 54,000 seats
  • only 15 corporate suites apparently(Arsenal 152)
  • Fans sitting on the first row of the stand behind the goal, will be 18 metres away from the goal line
  • will be a gap of 15 metres or more in at the ends of grounds, shown by the bridges in pic on the last page(there won't be a bridge in the actual stadium)
  • A ground share with Leyton Orient wouldn't make it feel like a home
  • Shit atmosphere
  • History states clubs tend to move away from multi purpose stadiums to find something that fits their requirements
 

riggi

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Jun 24, 2008
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The issue is this isn't what the fans signed up to, they had such a hatred of us they supported this move from their home ground. Now Im generalising in this next statement, I don't think many of their fans care about moving away from East Ham as its not the area it use to be and they think its a shit hole!

Here the stadium isn't even the world class stadium they thought it would be:
  • only 54,000 seats
  • only 15 corporate suites apparently(Arsenal 152)
  • Fans sitting on the first row of the stand behind the goal, will be 18 metres away from the goal line
  • will be a gap of 15 metres or more in at the ends of grounds, shown by the bridges in pic on the last page(there won't be a bridge in the actual stadium)
  • A ground share with Leyton Orient wouldn't make it feel like a home
  • Shit atmosphere
  • History states clubs tend to move away from multi purpose stadiums to find something that fits their requirements

Its not the area it used to be and it is a shit hole!
 

michaelden

Knight of the Fat Fanny
Aug 13, 2004
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The more I look at the image the more I think they could fit their fans all around the pitch, standing like dad's at their kids Saturday game. Probably don't need to build the blue or grey bits at all.
 

Misfit

President of The Niles Crane Fanclub
May 7, 2006
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Thank God for Levy deliberately making this a very public ordeal. Had this been a one horse race, a deal would have been done, I've no doubt about it.
 

beats1

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Feb 22, 2010
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Thank God for Levy deliberately making this a very public ordeal. Had this been a one horse race, a deal would have been done, I've no doubt about it.
See this is the thing, before boris apparently tried to seek us out as a big club to take over, the west ham fans were totally against moving.

Us being involved rallied their fans together to stop us moving in to their turf. Had we not got involved, they probably wouldn't of moved in.

The other thing is, had we not hacked them, they would of got a FREE stadium!
 

Misfit

President of The Niles Crane Fanclub
May 7, 2006
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See this is the thing, before boris apparently tried to seek us out as a big club to take over, the west ham fans were totally against moving.

Us being involved rallied their fans together to stop us moving in to their turf. Had we not got involved, they probably wouldn't of moved in.

The other thing is, had we not hacked them, they would of got a FREE stadium!
Indeed. And I bet the running track and "Olympic legacy" would have been shuffled off quietly too.
 

beats1

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Feb 22, 2010
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Indeed. And I bet the running track and "Olympic legacy" would have been shuffled off quietly too.
I think the running track would of stayed but olympic legacy:banghead:

There is much of legacy, the funding all of sudden is drying up and nobody cares anymore. No one other than your athletic fans cares about the world championships. Even the olympics we never really cared, its only because we hosted it, we had to care.

We only will care if we take it more seriously and lack of funding for athletics means we will never be competitive
 

SteveH

BSoDL candidate for SW London
Jul 21, 2003
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Looks like Ms Brady's time spent around George Osborne has paid off.

West Ham played a blinder to be honest, they got a new stadium for £15m plus £80m for the old ground and a steady income from a percentage of the income from the development.

Corrupt, never!
 

SugarRay

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Jul 6, 2011
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What had me scratching my head was the small minded mentality applied by the public when talking about what should happen to the venue once the Olympics were done.

They seemed to want it left as a shrine to the games. Weird.

Look at what happened to the Olympic Stadiums used in Montreal, Atlanta, Sydney etc
They managed to move on...

We hosted the Olympics. It was a great Summer. Its done with now though. As much as I didn't want to move there ( I would have stopped going ) our proposal made the most sense. Realistic, practical and would have probably given us a better athletics legacy.

I think the whole debacle will end up with West Ham selling The Boleyn, moving there and then moving to a new stadium at some point in the next 20 years, leaving the Olympic Stadium as a great big white elephant.
As a tourist attraction, it really is quite shit. The actual stadium is crap if we are being honest, surrounding area has no redeeming features ( wow, a shopping centre! Although I do like the casino ) and why would it? The whole thing was designed to be used for that summer. A almost flat pack Olympics. If IKEA did Olympic Games, 2012 would have been its crowning glory.
 

ernie78

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Jun 13, 2012
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The Olympic legacy for Newham is that the council give a premier league football club £40mil to move into a stadium built with tax payers money whilst massively cutting funding for all youth services & moving young single mothers out of the area (to Hastings,Manchester & Birmingham). The Olympic legacy was always a fallicy.
 

Misfit

President of The Niles Crane Fanclub
May 7, 2006
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Yup. But some global conglomerates had a nice month's tax free profiteering and their political lackies will now get another board position to add to their collections when they leave office.

And that legacy is important.
 

beats1

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Feb 22, 2010
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I think the whole debacle will end up with West Ham selling The Boleyn, moving there and then moving to a new stadium at some point in the next 20 years, leaving the Olympic Stadium as a great big white elephant.
As a tourist attraction, it really is quite shit. The actual stadium is crap if we are being honest, surrounding area has no redeeming features ( wow, a shopping centre! Although I do like the casino ) and why would it? The whole thing was designed to be used for that summer. A almost flat pack Olympics. If IKEA did Olympic Games, 2012 would have been its crowning glory.
This is the major issue, the scaremongering made the public believe it would be a white elephant if no one moved in to it. But what the fuck is a white elephant?

My definition of a white elephant is a big structure that is a drain to the locals. The 35,000 downgrade was a brilliant idea. It also had no facilities, so therefore it wouldn't of been a drain in costs.

The olympic park should of been open and free to use by the local schools that would of left more of a lasting legacy imo.

As for a tourist attraction it is shit and if it wasn't for Westfield no one would go there!
 

nailsy

SC Supporter
Jul 24, 2005
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I'm starting to think they might stay up this season. Norwich and Fulham look like going down, and then it could be any one of of the other seven or eight.
 

hodsgod

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Jan 12, 2012
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This is the major issue, the scaremongering made the public believe it would be a white elephant if no one moved in to it. But what the fuck is a white elephant?

My definition of a white elephant is a big structure that is a drain to the locals. The 35,000 downgrade was a brilliant idea. It also had no facilities, so therefore it wouldn't of been a drain in costs.

The olympic park should of been open and free to use by the local schools that would of left more of a lasting legacy imo.

As for a tourist attraction it is shit and if it wasn't for Westfield no one would go there!


Some Asian elephants have a pale pigment, in countries like Laos and Thailand these are revered, and therefore never work. Basically no use except looking at.
 

absolute bobbins

Am Yisrael Chai
Feb 12, 2013
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With luck they will get relegated and then fined for their huge expenses, don't get it twisted the olympic stadium will be a shit ground

This is a mock up made by a fan, who wants to sit in the top tier of this shit
fyjo.jpg
Top tier? so he can have a block to himself?
 

beats1

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Feb 22, 2010
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I'm starting to think they might stay up this season. Norwich and Fulham look like going down, and then it could be any one of of the other seven or eight.
Anyone of ten to be honest, I don't know if they will stay up. I agree they look better now!

I do think Swansea, Crystal Palace, Hull and Aston Villa are safe

I think Fulham will worm their way out and I think cardiff are going down. Norwich are a weird one! They cant score for shit but have players with decent goalscoring records like Hooper, RVW and Bechio yet are missing sitters alot. I think Norwich will stay up as they have are use to fighting for their lives.

West Brom look a bit funny as well, not sure on them tbh. Who knows! One weeks sunderland look great the next, dog shit. Also worth noting that winning a domestic trophy increases your chances of going down if you're in a relegation fight!
 
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