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Gb160

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Is this legit? Fucking ace if it is!
Not him, shortarses don't need to point their knees inwards on the tube to avoid blocking the walkway.
Levy could stretch his legs out as far as he could without blocking it.
 

Tucker

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deloitte_Football_Money_League#2019

Time to upset some people. OK so its pinch of salt , and oversimplification time. But.....

Comparing last years revenue to the 2019 one, when you compare it to the other clubs is a serious increase, and we havent moved into the new stadium.
Next year with that type of growth we should overhaul Arsenal, and be fairly neck and neck with Chelsea. On that basis i'm happy for Levy and friends to keep going in the direction they are.

More growth = bigger wages = small chance of some better players.

I remember the season we left WHL that one of the ITKs said that we were basically ahead of schedule with out plans for the team. Levy has us focused on keeping the books balanced as much as possible and maintaining our position in the CL. Once the stadium is done and we are in I will expect/hope things will change financially for us. And our strategy will change from one of maintenance to one of attempting to challenge.

I’m happy with the way our team is, from management all the way down to our current scapegoat player. I don’t remember a time where we’ve ever been consistently this good. When we drop points I’m genuinely disappointed these days as opposed to back in the 90s and early 00s when I just had a grim feeling of knowing that deep down we were shite and any wins and good performances were a bonus.

I get that people worry that we will fall behind our rivals, and that we are so close to being genuine challengers, it is frustrating when we don’t sign players. I completely understand why we didn’t though.
 

DiscoD1882

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Preemptive bump for 23:01.

I mentioned this before and it’s meant with sincerity but if people really don’t like the way the owners run the club why do you do nothing about it?
There was a guy on Wembley way on Wednesday night. with a #Levyout placard. I honestly despair.
 

fluffybunnyuk

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A bit harsh given we're still on target for one of our biggest ever points tallies in the league.

Lets do some comparison from my early memories.
Link :- Mansfield v Tottenham

Yes its easy to get furious about losses, the relative merits of cups v top 4, and all the other 1st world problems we have but i'll take it every day because i've seen worse, alot worse.
What we're doing now, its deeply impressive. Manager that might want to stay, new stadium, players that want to win something, proper investment. It'll reap rewards sooner or later. And the football is a delight when the squad is fully fit. If your under 40 this is surely the best time to support spurs.
 

fluffybunnyuk

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Someone needs to play yakety sax over the top of that...
Theres hope for walker-peters , and Lloris yet.
 

Trees

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I can see where this train of thought comes from, but the grass is not always greener. Your Gooner supporting mate probably thinks that's what he wants but when Arsenal get relegated for financial twattery and are the laughing stock of the entire league, I bet that 1 league title doesn't look so shiny. Especially if they're still down there 10 years later like Leeds.

Ironically, this slow, painful burn is exactly what WILL allow us to make big signings in the future. The stadium will be a big selling point, the extra ticket money will fill our pockets, and when ENIC do eventually sell up, we're far more likely to be bought by someone with big ambitions rather than a chancer like Mike Ashley.
Let’s hope so. I might be dead by the time we win the league.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Not him, shortarses don't need to point their knees inwards on the tube to avoid blocking the walkway.
Levy could stretch his legs out as far as he could without blocking it.
I'm pretty sure his feet wouldn't even be touching the floor.
 

DogsOfWar

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I've been saying this for years but Levy's not f***ing about, he's trying to grow us into the biggest club in football.
He's not interested in short term gain, only long term, sustainable, growth.

Revenue comes in 3 streams, TV, Match day, and commercial:
TV is huge, but similar to all the other Prem teams.
Match day will be the biggest in the world when the stadium opens.
But commercial was always our weakness, we could never compete with the established giants.
So he's turned the stadium into a multi-eventer and is pushing for a strong NFL tie in to create large non-football commercial growth.

Once the non-footballing commercial revenue is established we'll see more investment on the pitch as the footballing commercial growth will be the next area.

Our fans really need to stop panicking as in 5 years we will be as unrecognisable as we are today compared with 10 years ago.
 
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I've been saying this for years but Levy's not f***ing about, he's trying to grow us into the biggest club in football.
He's not interested in short term gain, only long term, sustainable, growth.

Revenue comes in 3 streams, TV, Match day, and commercial:
TV is huge, but similar to all the other Prem teams.
Match day will be the biggest in the world when the stadium opens.
But commercial was always our weakness, we could never compete with the established giants.
So he's turned the stadium into a multi-eventer and is pushing for a strong NFL tie in to create large non-football commercial growth.

Once the non-footballing commercial revenue is established we'll see more investment on the pitch as the footballing commercial growth will be the next area.

Our fans really need to stop panicking as in 5 years we will be as unrecognisable as we are today compared with 10 years ago.
Dogs, you paint a beautifully hopeful and optimistic picture of the future, mate. And why wouldn't you? This is exactly the fantasy we've been sold by ENIC in order to justify limiting investment in the squad whilst simultaneously prioritising millions in operating cash flow for a property development that will garner them huge profit. Like every fan, I'd love for your vision to be realised. But the reality is, ENIC are actively trying to sell the Club. I very much doubt they'll even be here in 5 years. And even if they fail to find a buyer and do stick around, don't expect them to change their time-honoured recruitment policy of rarely spending more on incomings than they recoup in sales. Where we've been told "money was available this window but Poch didn't want anyone" I don't think it's too loose a translation to read, "£11 million was available from the sale of Dembele but Poch didn't trust that amount of money would buy a player of significant quality to improve the squad". We're being duped mate. The NWHL won't be the game changer we hope it to be under ENIC: they'll still continue with their "sell to buy" transfer policy right up until the time they flog the Club. I really hope I'm wrong mate, and the increased match day revenue will, just as promised, be the catalyst that allows us to truly compete in the market, but evidence of the last 2 windows - despite the myriad excuses - is pretty damning, isn't it. And any misinformation we're spun via certain ITK (unwittingly, for the most part, I'm sure) is just an attempt to keep us further wedded to that "future spending power" myth and further away from the truth: remember this time last year when we were told "targets had already been lined up for the summer because Poch wants players in early", "there's £150 million transfer budget", "it's a huge summer for Levy/ENIC cos they know they have to back the manager", "it's time to shit or get off the pot for Levy and ENIC", etc.? All plausible and convenient "info leaks" especially around ST renewal time. Yet the only irrefutable fact is that not a single player has been bought in 2 windows, (probably because during that time no players have been sold for a significant amount of money). We all of course hope your "prophesy" comes true, let's hope it does. Nothing would give me greater pleasure than you saying to me, "see mate, I was right all along, and you were totally wrong about ENIC". So let's see how the next window pans out. I'm keeping everything crossed that you get to say "I told you so" as early as next summer. Take it easy, Dogs! COYS
 

The Scarecrow

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I've been saying this for years but Levy's not f***ing about, he's trying to grow us into the biggest club in football.
He's not interested in short term gain, only long term, sustainable, growth.

Revenue comes in 3 streams, TV, Match day, and commercial:
TV is huge, but similar to all the other Prem teams.
Match day will be the biggest in the world when the stadium opens.
But commercial was always our weakness, we could never compete with the established giants.
So he's turned the stadium into a multi-eventer and is pushing for a strong NFL tie in to create large non-football commercial growth.

Once the non-footballing commercial revenue is established we'll see more investment on the pitch as the footballing commercial growth will be the next area.

Our fans really need to stop panicking as in 5 years we will be as unrecognisable as we are today compared with 10 years ago.
Great post! I think this also underlines the importance of staying in the top 4, and why Poch isn't prioritising the cups.
 

dontcallme

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Dogs, you paint a beautifully hopeful and optimistic picture of the future, mate. And why wouldn't you? This is exactly the fantasy we've been sold by ENIC in order to justify limiting investment in the squad whilst simultaneously prioritising millions in operating cash flow for a property development that will garner them huge profit. Like every fan, I'd love for your vision to be realised. But the reality is, ENIC are actively trying to sell the Club. I very much doubt they'll even be here in 5 years. And even if they fail to find a buyer and do stick around, don't expect them to change their time-honoured recruitment policy of rarely spending more on incomings than they recoup in sales. Where we've been told "money was available this window but Poch didn't want anyone" I don't think it's too loose a translation to read, "£11 million was available from the sale of Dembele but Poch didn't trust that amount of money would buy a player of significant quality to improve the squad". We're being duped mate. The NWHL won't be the game changer we hope it to be under ENIC: they'll still continue with their "sell to buy" transfer policy right up until the time they flog the Club. I really hope I'm wrong mate, and the increased match day revenue will, just as promised, be the catalyst that allows us to truly compete in the market, but evidence of the last 2 windows - despite the myriad excuses - is pretty damning, isn't it. And any misinformation we're spun via certain ITK (unwittingly, for the most part, I'm sure) is just an attempt to keep us further wedded to that "future spending power" myth and further away from the truth: remember this time last year when we were told "targets had already been lined up for the summer because Poch wants players in early", "there's £150 million transfer budget", "it's a huge summer for Levy/ENIC cos they know they have to back the manager", "it's time to shit or get off the pot for Levy and ENIC", etc.? All plausible and convenient "info leaks" especially around ST renewal time. Yet the only irrefutable fact is that not a single player has been bought in 2 windows, (probably because during that time no players have been sold for a significant amount of money). We all of course hope your "prophesy" comes true, let's hope it does. Nothing would give me greater pleasure than you saying to me, "see mate, I was right all along, and you were totally wrong about ENIC". So let's see how the next window pans out. I'm keeping everything crossed that you get to say "I told you so" as early as next summer. Take it easy, Dogs! COYS

You write posts like things are really bad for us.
 

BringBack_leGin

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Dogs, you paint a beautifully hopeful and optimistic picture of the future, mate. And why wouldn't you? This is exactly the fantasy we've been sold by ENIC in order to justify limiting investment in the squad whilst simultaneously prioritising millions in operating cash flow for a property development that will garner them huge profit. Like every fan, I'd love for your vision to be realised. But the reality is, ENIC are actively trying to sell the Club. I very much doubt they'll even be here in 5 years. And even if they fail to find a buyer and do stick around, don't expect them to change their time-honoured recruitment policy of rarely spending more on incomings than they recoup in sales. Where we've been told "money was available this window but Poch didn't want anyone" I don't think it's too loose a translation to read, "£11 million was available from the sale of Dembele but Poch didn't trust that amount of money would buy a player of significant quality to improve the squad". We're being duped mate. The NWHL won't be the game changer we hope it to be under ENIC: they'll still continue with their "sell to buy" transfer policy right up until the time they flog the Club. I really hope I'm wrong mate, and the increased match day revenue will, just as promised, be the catalyst that allows us to truly compete in the market, but evidence of the last 2 windows - despite the myriad excuses - is pretty damning, isn't it. And any misinformation we're spun via certain ITK (unwittingly, for the most part, I'm sure) is just an attempt to keep us further wedded to that "future spending power" myth and further away from the truth: remember this time last year when we were told "targets had already been lined up for the summer because Poch wants players in early", "there's £150 million transfer budget", "it's a huge summer for Levy/ENIC cos they know they have to back the manager", "it's time to shit or get off the pot for Levy and ENIC", etc.? All plausible and convenient "info leaks" especially around ST renewal time. Yet the only irrefutable fact is that not a single player has been bought in 2 windows, (probably because during that time no players have been sold for a significant amount of money). We all of course hope your "prophesy" comes true, let's hope it does. Nothing would give me greater pleasure than you saying to me, "see mate, I was right all along, and you were totally wrong about ENIC". So let's see how the next window pans out. I'm keeping everything crossed that you get to say "I told you so" as early as next summer. Take it easy, Dogs! COYS
Given that you've been on this site for the last 10.5 years, I can only assume that you remember at least that far back, so I continue to be amazed at how someone can have witnessed the constant, remarkable improvements this club has made in that time and bear such antipathy towards the people responsible for it. Even if the overriding plan is to sell us at a massive profit, then the fact that Enic have improved us from being the level that Everton currently are to the level we are at now in order to do so can only be a good thing.

Also, considering Enic are desperate to sell, it's quite amazing that they are the longest serving owners of any Premier League club, with Levy the longest serving chairman. Fucking chancers.
 
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You write posts like things are really bad for us.
No you're right mate. And I promise you it's not my intention to "doom-monger". I'm so proud of how brilliantly well we're doing and unbelievably grateful that we have such a fantastic manager who's achieved all this success despite the financial limitations that have been imposed upon him. Now just imagine what we might achieve if Poch was properly, significantly backed. We're so tantalisingly close mate. And as a fellow supporter, don't you want to see investment in the squad?
 
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Ah BBlG with one of your usual pious, virtue-signalling rants with its continuing subtext of "I'm a better supporter than you because I never question our owners". If you choose to "tug a furlock" toward ENIC and thank them for all they've done, that's your right; I won't criticise you for doing so. But don't tell me how I'm supposed to feel, or how much "gratitude" I'm compelled to display. Has it never occurred to you that it's possible to love this football club but still distrust the motives or critique the actions of the owners? Or is that too fucking outrageous for you? For me, Spurs and ENIC are not synonymous; they're not mutually inclusive. And ENIC certainly don't define the identity of the Club I love; they're just the company that currently own its market rights. So instead of foaming at the mouth with your usual self-righteous indignation for anyone who dares to criticise the Board, why don't you just thoughtfully and respectfully debate the points or views expressed in the post; you know, like adults do? Challenge what was written. Tell me where I've got it so patently wrong. Like I said in the post, I sincerely hope I have got it wrong. I'd even welcome someone as smug as you telling me so. (There you go mate, you're not the only one who can "play the man instead of the post").
 

Lilbaz

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Lol how many years has this argument been going on? Any winner yet?

Until someone comes in and buys the club enic are what we've got for better or worse.
 

The Doc

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For a little fella his feet are fucking enormous - looks a bit like Gru
Definitely him. He popped his shoes off just before we pulled into Green Park. I managed to snap this baby without him noticing.
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