Levy Should have...!

[yankspurs]

I'm pretty sure you also said you'd never complain about Levy again if we signed Yedlin...:

Heat of the moment type thing. It happens to the best of us. We live and learn. Just like when i was pissed klinsmann replaced johnson with yedlin instead of chandler in the belgium match. We live and learn.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Heat of the moment type thing. It happens to the best of us. We live and learn. Just like when i was pissed klinsmann replaced johnson with yedlin instead of chandler in the belgium match. We live and learn.

It seems some Spurs fans don't learn. #Impatience

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Who else was in the race when we appointed avb can anyone remember??

Laurent Blanc came close to getting the poisoned chalice

 

[ultimateloner]

OP OTT.
This loss has nothing to do with Levy and everything to do with focus and application.

We have lost many winnable games under various managers. The only time when we delivered somewhat consistently was when we had VdV and Modric in the team. That was our best squad for years and now we have a weaker one.

The problem is on the pitch not off it. No need to blame the higher-ups. We've shown lack of belief against City; we did it again in this game. IMO the senior/leading players need to show by example but they aren't doing it. Trust Poch has seen it so will address.

 

[yankspurs]

Laurent Blanc came close to getting the poisoned chalice

I love you a&c dont ever change

 

[yankspurs]

It seems some Spurs fans don't learn. #Impatience

My patience has run out with levy

 

[kd2000]

admittedly some blame could be slung Poch's and Levy's way judging by and agreeing with the previous posts. However, I'm unsure what either could have done with Dier having a nap second half or the players who failed to challenge sissoko leading upto the second goal. Also it's difficult to understand why they didnt run onto the pitch and play a through ball to a striker or get on the end of a move themselves, that is allowed right??
Seems to me the players don't appear to be getting much blame

 

[Matthew Wyatt]

In any consistently failing organisation the rot is at the top. You can change the workers and middle management just like that, and still more easily in football than in more fairly regulated industries. Lewis and Levy are the problem. They've been fattening us up for sale for some time. Please sell us now.

 

[ackie]

Levy should have... SACKED BALDINI!

 

[Harry Barber]

In any consistently failing organisation the rot is at the top. You can change the workers and middle management just like that, and still more easily in football than in more fairly regulated industries. Lewis and Levy are the problem. They've been fattening us up for sale for some time. Please sell us now.

I totally agree with this. I can honestly see Levy getting rid of Poch before the shit sticks to Levy. It's why he's gone through so many managers.
Other shit teams, because of their net spending are overtaking us. When's the last time we had a net spend, despite Levy's assurances that the new stadium wouldn't affect our transfer budget?
They're using our transfer budget to increase the value of their stake holding through land purchases, new training ground, etc. hence why they demanded a billion pounds from Cain Hoy. They're buying players who they can sell on for a profit in a few years. Poor Holtby is just one who comes to mind.
And as for MS, J -Rod, Berahino joining us in January -

 

[Baan]

None. But I wasn't expecting it straight away.

True.
I'm up for giving a 2~3 year to pochi.
If we have numerous superb player, then we can change the team play in few game.
But we don't have them and we need time to put down roots

 

[Dr Know]

I've never been anti-Levy, nor have I been a BSoDL, but I think this is a fair point. He deserves credit for the way he's handled the club's finances, and how we've developed our club into something bigger than what we were 10 years ago, but we're starting to look shakey now. We need a bit of stability, and perhaps his trigger happy nature is creating a shift in our fortunes and we may see ourselves plummet again as a result. If Poch is added to the list of 'former Spurs managers' then you've really got to question Levy's ability to judge what makes a good manager. Either Levy is constantly hiring the wrong type of manager, or he's firing them too early. Either way, he's responsible.

I think it's one of those things when you question how far can a manager/MD/owner take a business. Managers can come in and put the square pegs back into the square holes and that's his job done. I really feel Levy/Joe has done great for Spurs but can they take us any further? Maybe Harry had a point when he said "this is as good as it's going to get" Maybe we misinterpreted Harry's message, he could have well been telling us that with the higher managerial structure, there was no chance we would be a force of a club but just a club that makes a healthy profit every year......who knows!

 

[Metalhead]

I think it's one of those things when you question how far can a manager/MD/owner take a business. Managers can come in and put the square pegs back into the square holes and that's his job done. I really feel Levy/Joe has done great for Spurs but can they take us any further? Maybe Harry had a point when he said "this is as good as it's going to get" Maybe we misinterpreted Harry's message, he could have well been telling us that with the higher managerial structure, there was no chance we would be a force of a club but just a club that makes a healthy profit every year......who knows!

Thing is though, unless anyone makes Enic an offer that they simply can't turn down then Levy is going nowhere.

 

[mrlilywhite]

Matt Law has it right with this article.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...uides-side-to-first-away-win-since-March.html

 

[mrlilywhite]

I think it's one of those things when you question how far can a manager/MD/owner take a business. Managers can come in and put the square pegs back into the square holes and that's his job done. I really feel Levy/Joe has done great for Spurs but can they take us any further? Maybe Harry had a point when he said "this is as good as it's going to get" Maybe we misinterpreted Harry's message, he could have well been telling us that with the higher managerial structure, there was no chance we would be a force of a club but just a club that makes a healthy profit every year......who knows!

Actually, did he not say "Spurs fans have never had it so good"? No matter which way you spin it, it equates to the same thing. It has not got any better than under Redknapp, so perhaps your words are more apt for the current mess we are in.

OP OTT.
This loss has nothing to do with Levy and everything to do with focus and application.

We have lost many winnable games under various managers. The only time when we delivered somewhat consistently was when we had VdV and Modric in the team. That was our best squad for years and now we have a weaker one.

The problem is on the pitch not off it. No need to blame the higher-ups. We've shown lack of belief against City; we did it again in this game. IMO the senior/leading players need to show by example but they aren't doing it. Trust Poch has seen it so will address.

I feel that Levy/ENIC are ultimately responsible. Everything stems to them. Pretty much every team is outspending us, the Stadium is fast becoming less of a near reality that has not even secured funding, not supporting his managers in the transfer market, not giving managers enough time to develop their own squad. The list of ENIC's failure's is vast, but the one thing that Levy is mainly at fault for is he has hired all these managers, DOF's and then puts them in the firing line every bloody time without supporting them fully. He in my opinion is responsible indirectly for every footballing decision. How can so many managers get it wrong without any mitigating circumstances?? Poch, AVB, Sherwood, Jol, Ramos....The list goes on. ENIC have run out of time, and have made one mistake too many. Their interest is not success, but it damn well should have been, they will end up selling for less if they allow the current trend of football to continue without investment, and that is a best case scenario....The worse case doesn't bare thinking about. The day ENIC sell up can't come soon enough for our club.

 

[nav007_2000]

Actually, did he not say "Spurs fans have never had it so good"? No matter which way you spin it, it equates to the same thing. It has not got any better than under Redknapp, so perhaps your words are more apt for the current mess we are in.



I feel that Levy/ENIC are ultimately responsible. Everything stems to them. Pretty much every team is outspending us, the Stadium is fast becoming less of a near reality that has not even secured funding, not supporting his managers in the transfer market, not giving managers enough time to develop their own squad. The list of ENIC's failure's is vast, but the one thing that Levy is mainly at fault for is he has hired all these managers, DOF's and then puts them in the firing line every bloody time without supporting them fully. He in my opinion is responsible indirectly for every footballing decision. How can so many managers get it wrong without any mitigating circumstances?? Poch, AVB, Sherwood, Jol, Ramos....The list goes on. ENIC have run out of time, and have made one mistake too many. Their interest is not success, but it damn well should have been, they will end up selling for less if they allow the current trend of football to continue without investment, and that is a best case scenario....The worse case doesn't bare thinking about. The day ENIC sell up can't come soon enough for our club.

Totally agree. Levy and Enic need to move on now. The quicker people realise this the better. The sun doesnt shine out of Levy's arse. We are never gonna be top 4 again under them. We had the chance and THEY blew it.

 

[SpursDave88]

The reality...which people seem unwilling to accept, is the players we have just aren't good enough...is that their fault? Or is that the fault of the people who chose to recruit them?

 

[nav007_2000]

The reality...which people seem unwilling to accept, is the players we have just aren't good enough...is that their fault? Or is that the fault of the people who chose to recruit them?

BOTH!

I agree the players we have are not good enough and the players that have come in have not been good enough as well.

Why spend £8.5m on Ben Davies, £1.5m on Vorm, £5plus on Stambouli and not play them in the prem?

The first team is not good. I can see Vert, Lloris and others leaving in the summer and us replacing them with sub standard players. Under Harry things were going so well with the club moving forward. Now we are the laughing stock of the prem.

 

[buttons]

Levy should have...allowed Poch to sign the players he wanted in the summer! Yes, i dont know for sure that Poch didn't want the players we got, but to me it speaks volumes that none of them were involved yesterday (tho Fazio may have been but for ban).

It doesnt matter if we have Poch, AVB, LVG, or LOL in charge, if they aren't given the players they want but are given second rate, cheap alternatives we will never get anywhere. Might as well sack off having a manager altogether and let Franco/Levy run the show.

 

[deckchair]

And because of the subs (well, lack of them).

did we not name enough subs? ;-)