Levy: Should he stay or should he go?

[dcarney75]

well i know we are tottenham hotspur football club and i know we have a great history and are a big club........big club that hasnt ever made it into the CL has a wage cap so cant attract world class players. the way levy is working things just isnt working......we are alot better off than the sugar days but like martin jol levy has taken us as far as he can......sell up to a very rich man and let us sign world class players like robinho, villa.

money talks

We're aiming for sustainable long-term success, and we're trying to do it in a different way, a better way than selling up to a Rich Foreign Businessman who doesn't really care if it's Spurs, Stoke or Sunderland, and joining the never-ending, predictable game of "who's got the most money" which football has become in the process.

Might take longer to get there, but when we do, it'll be all the sweeter, and we'll have been run in such a way as to ensure we'll have the resources to stay there.

 

[nicdic]

Is this what you expected Rob?

 

[supermonkeyyid]

Anyone who answers no to this poll has to ask themselves one question:
1. Who is this magical person who will take us to the next level? Will it be another billionaire owner who will give us an unlimited transfer kitty because the reality is that it will more likely be someone who pumps the money in at the start then ends up selling players behind the managers back as their investment is not producing results. Just look at teams who have been recently takenover by new owners.
Newcastle: manager is resigning due to players being sold
West Ham: manager resigning after players were sold,
Liverpool: Benetiz has had big busts up over limited transfer funds, the arguments between the 2 owners are a joke and they can't fund a new stadium
Man City: Under Shininatra (or what ever his name is) Hughes nearly walked out after players being sold.
Man United and Chelsea havent had it easy either.

New owners do not gaurantee success and under Levy at least we have a well run organisation and with the best team and manager we've had in years.

Are we really in a bad position? I remember about 5-6 years ago when everyone on here was going mad because we didnt sign Michael Ricketts in the January transfer window..... have some faith in Levy please

 

[zepstar]

Stay. He is the ebst thing to happen to the club in a long time.

 

[SpurSince57]

I'm sorry but this is a totally ridiculous question. How can anybody older than 6 consider this seriously.

Rob
Can you tell me the last time we had a chairman that even came close to making us a great football team and profitable at the same time ?

We are both at the moment.

I really don't understand this stream of whining and negativity. We need a couple of players. Big deal. We have a huge kitty and are sure to get them sooner rather than later.

This is the best spurs squad that I have seen period (I'm 42). Even better - as a squad - than the81/82. The first 11 is close but as a squad it's now. And I know it will get better in the next two windows.

We were a whisker - even according to your own ITK ("The goat understands that Arshavin is done bar the medical") of having a forward option of Pav/Arshavin/Bent/(Campbell). Aded to a defensive options of Gomes, Corluka, Woodgate, King, Glberto, Hutton & Bale and mifield options of Modric, Bently, Huddlestone, Jenas, Zokora, Dos Santos, Lennon, Bale.

Plus about 30-50 million to spend next window.

How the F can anyone with a memeory span longer than 6 years not appreciate the position we are in.

I was rather thinking of our 86-87 line-up as the best First XI in recent(ish) memory, but we're along the same lines. That in turn was arguably the best since 61-63 (the Double Team plus Greavesie). What, exactly, do some people want?

I was spitting feathers about Levy this time last year, but certainly not calling for him to be given the boot. There are quite a few things about him that I don't like, but no question he's one of the best chairmen in the league, arguably the best, and despite mistakes he's transformed our club.

This has been a fantastic window, and even if we are arguably a striker light there should be plenty of goals from midfield to compensate. Bloody great.

 

[PT]

a very rich owner gets us players like robinho, veloso, arshavin!

well considering ramos has had half a season to judge his squad and makes a few signings to improve it only to have his plans ripped in half when he wanted things settled before kick off. what i was getting at is we cant afford to wait half a season to get who we need we needed them now! pissing about with zennit over a few poxy quids has cost us big time...also veloso too.

we needed to replace keane and berba we couldnt so dont sell them they were under contract ffs! we have been crying out for a holdind mid for 2 years and have failed ............

jog on levy you stingy money grabbing whore

A very rich owner might bandy his dosh about but a Manchester City will find, they will only get second tier players for extortionate sums as they aren't yet in a qualification spot for the Champions league until the end of this season.

Spurs have as much chance as City of getting those kind of players - to quote Levy, "if the right players comes along to improve our squad, we will move for him".

As for not replacing Keane and Berbatov I beg to differ from your opinion.


For Berbatov, read Pavlyuchenko - a goalscorer, proven at international level. He may not be as flash as Berbatov but he'll still get us a similar outlay in terms of goals.

As for the loss of Keane for £20m, a marvelous piece of business, and i'm a Keane fan, we have brought in Bentley and Dos Santos, as well as grooming lennon to play the deep role that Keane brought to play.

That's three players that, you may notice, can also provide versatility by playing in other positions.

then there is Modric, a world class DM / AM who will provide opportunities many fold this season for our strike force.

then I come back to your NOW NOW NOW cry. We have money to spend but thankfully didn't blow it on dross as we have been known to do in previous windows. we drew breath and walked away after refusing to be swerved in to paying over the odds in a murky Russion minefield.

The winter window will provide us an opportunity to strengthen where required, if indeed we need strengthening. We have eight new players, all international quality, that will be pulling our shirt on.

That, in part, is thanks to the Spurs board, headed up by Mr Levy.

COYS

 

[ohh_when_the_spurs]

it will be all that sweeter for those of us that are still alive too see it, aslong as we dont have CL footie or massive amounts of money to spend on wages we will ALWAYS be a feeder to manure, liverpool and soon too be man city

can you imagine anybody actually moaning if we got robinho, veloso, villa and won the league by having a super rich chairman and them posting.. i wish we still had levy in charge and done it the ''proper'' way

 

[dontcallme]

Where were before Levy came in? What have we been achieving the last 3 seasons? No brainer, even if sometimes I don't agree with his actions the end results are consistently improving so he definitely has to stay.

 

[ohh_when_the_spurs]

PT i can see where your comming from and you are right im just getting tired of false dawns and using the word this is our year evey f-inn year. just seems like one step forward ...gomes, modric, dos santos, bentley.............2 steps back ...berbatov, keane

the amount of stick i get from my mates is unreal........we are the laughing stock of the prem and have been for aslong as i have supported the not so MIGHTY SPURS

i think i have actually just realised (this window) we are not a big big club anymore and are a million miles away from breaking the top 4

 

[ohh_when_the_spurs]

dontallme............5th 5th 11th with the mickey mouse cup.......its hardly alot to boast about.

just like jol he too us up but could not do better so we bought in ramos whats too say levy has taken us as far as he can and its time for a change...i give levy this season and next to get it right.....if not the i think its time for him too go

 

[hybridsoldier]

existence of this thread is disgusting, what exatcly has he done wrong?

absolutely ridiculous some of you guys

 

[Real_madyidd]

Stupid stupids. Stop being so stupid.

 

[SpurSince57]

a very rich owner gets us players like robinho, veloso, arshavin!

well considering ramos has had half a season to judge his squad and makes a few signings to improve it only to have his plans ripped in half when he wanted things settled before kick off. what i was getting at is we cant afford to wait half a season to get who we need we needed them now! pissing about with zennit over a few poxy quids has cost us big time...also veloso too.

we needed to replace keane and berba we couldnt so dont sell them they were under contract ffs! we have been crying out for a holdind mid for 2 years and have failed ............

jog on levy you stingy money grabbing whore

Oh dear, as Defsta would say.

You do realise that Robinho has been dreck for Real? I mean, dreck. Shite. Scolari might have got the best out of him, but for anyone else he's a huge risk unless you've got so much money it doesn't matter.

Veloso? Didn't want to come. What do you suggest? Rohypnol?

Do you know what happened with Arshavin? No, you don't. None of us does. But as he's a player Ramos has been keen on for two years I'm sure we'd have gone that extra mile, or extra couple of million. Zenit didn't want to do business.

We've replaced Berbatov. With Pavlyuchenko. Hadn't you noticed?

:duh:

 

[ohh_when_the_spurs]

well selling the 2 players that single handedly kept us in the premiership last year while both on big contracts?

make all these claims they were tapped up then sell them anyway for a few million more. recouped more than we have spent this year and wont shell out an extra million or 2 for arshavin and veloso.

dont get me wrong levy has done a very good job in making us a better team but to get us to that next level he aint gonna do that!

 

[dcarney75]

it will be all that sweeter for those of us that are still alive too see it, aslong as we dont have CL footie or massive amounts of money to spend on wages we will ALWAYS be a feeder to manure, liverpool and soon too be man city

can you imagine anybody actually moaning if we got robinho, veloso, villa and won the league by having a super rich chairman and them posting.. i wish we still had levy in charge and done it the ''proper'' way

If we bought success overnight it would feel slightly hollow, yes. I'd be very surprised if there was't a single Chelsea fan over the age of 15 who didn't feel slightly fraudulent the first time they lifted the PL.

And a lot of the geniuses on here screaming and shouting about Levy would, back then, have undoubtedly been screaming and shouting about Chelsea buying success.

Maybe I'm being naive, but I'd like to think that there still remains the opportunity for a football club to hit the heights without becoming a tax-loss device and/or branding exercise. I don't want Tottenham to become a part of that as I think it's largely ruining the game. And, try as I might, I just can't bring myself to subscribe to any "if you can't beat 'em..." mentality.

If you can't at least understand the points that I'm making you have a strikingly limited point of view.

 

[thetallaghttiger]

ridiculous thread. The man has steadid the ship and made us such a financially strong club.

He has been in charge to oversee us become a good side on the pitch as well, we need a bit of stability on and off the pitch, fingers-crossed we can get it!

It hasn't been talked about too much, but Levy and others did a fantastic job to sell ALL the players we did. £72 million made on selling players is FANTASTIC!

He hasn't got nearly enough credit for that

 

[snake1]

i see your point but having the money to spend next window is halfway thru a season wich is un acceptable. year by year us not making cl is risking losing more talent...bale, modric, dos santos, pav! it was now or never as far as im concerned and its looking alot like never to me

We've missed the boat already, this year. No big-name player will move in the January transfer window, in my opinion. All the good ones will be cup-tied.

We might get a big name striker next season.:-|

 

[ohh_when_the_spurs]

ok so zennit lead us on for 6 weeks only to say ohh nahh we dont wanna sell anymore, we screwed it up by being stubborn.....rohypnol? well maybe a nice big wage wouldnt have gone a miss and rgards the dhino.....form is temporary class is permanent! ok with the pav/berbs i cannot comment because i havnt seen him apart from a few games on tv and i didnt notice he was playing even tho he scored 2 past england if he turns out to be anywhere near berbs i will be a happy man.

i know you wouldnt publicly agree with me ss57 but you must see deep down that i may have a point

 

[snake1]

by the way i have never slated levy before today but i just cant beleive that we have been left in this state!

bent and campbell to lead us 2 the uefa cup final this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The whole of Europe will be shitting themselves from the very thought of coming up against those two.

 

[SpurSince57]

well selling the 2 players that single handedly kept us in the premiership last year while both on big contracts?

make all these claims they were tapped up then sell them anyway for a few million more. recouped more than we have spent this year and wont shell out an extra million or 2 for arshavin and veloso.

dont get me wrong levy has done a very good job in making us a better team but to get us to that next level he aint gonna do that!

They didn't want to be here. Well, we were initially told by several ITKs that Keane would be happy to stay if we didn't want to sell, but clearly we decided to cash in. If we haven't directly replaced him there's enough firepower and creativity in the midfield to compensate.

Veloso didn't want to come. What do you fail to understand about that? Apart from anything else, SC members who've actually watched him play regularly (and a lot of Portugeezers) reckon he's not all that anyway.

Maybe you should learn to distinguish between FM and real life.