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cwy21

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I don't have a problem with him not giving a yellow.

The yellow would be for a reckless foul but Cech's foul wasn't reckless. Just a simple trip.

The other option would be a tactical foul, which usually implies some sort of intent. Obviously Cech didn't deliberately take Ade out. One of my pet peeves is the whole "foul committed in penalty area so I must book someone" mentality that refs seem to have.
 

OmarsComing

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yanno

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I posted the following thought in the match ratings thread yesterday evening, and I've reflected on it all day, and my conclusion is the same.

From where he was standing, I do not believe that Atkinson can honestly have determined that the ball crossed the line.

"Honestly" being the key word.

I also note that Chavski were given two offside goals - one of which was five yards offside - last weekend.

Many of the major leagues in Europe have had corruption scandals. Italy is currently experiencing one.

It used to be said that only "foreigners" dived. Now, top English players are diving week in, week out. So, equally, to ask a rhetorical question, why should the English game be free of corruption?

I'm sickened at the way the match was ruined yesterday by a highly experienced referee making a decision all his training dictated he must not make.

Atkinson's behaviour went against every rule, every guideline, every ethical principle he has been taught throughout his professional career.

I've phrased this post carefully.

Sometimes, rather than watching top class supposedly competitive football I think I'd be better off watching staged and scripted WWF.....
 

nailsy

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From this picture it's not as clear that the ball hasn't completely crossed the line. I mean you can still see that it hasn't but it's not like the images you saw on ITV yesterday where it was obvious that the ball hadn't even reached the line. But even taking that into consideration the question I want answered is why on Earth is Ledley King sticking both of his hands up John Terrys arse?
 

gilzeantheking

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Emmanuel Adebayor's has angrily claimed referees are 'killing the game' after Martin Atkinson's performance in their FA Cup semi-final loss to Chelsea.
Tottenham were thrashed 5-1 at Wembley, but their task was made harder when Atkinson allowed Juan Mata's 'ghost goal' to stand despite the fact that Benoit Assou-Ekotto
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cleared the Spaniard's shot before it crossed the line.

With Spurs already 1-0 down thanks to Didier Drogba's opener, they were compelled to throw men forward, and even though Gareth Bale
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pulled a goal back, they were ultimately hammered thanks to late goals from Ramires, Frank Lampard
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and Florent Malouda.
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And Adebayor
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could not hide his anger after the game, telling Sky Sports News: "To be honest, we have to blame the referee.

"I think we have done well and he has made a lot of mistakes and made a lot of wrong decisions.
"We are all disappointed. But what do you want me to tell you?
"How many goals scored this season were disallowed that were onside?
"To be honest, I'm just tired of it and everyone is talking about goal-line technology.
"They have to make something happen because it's killing the league, it's killing the FA Cup, it's killing the game, it's killing everything."
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Adebayor insists that when he brought down in the build-up to Spurs' goal, they would rather have had a penalty and seen Petr Cech
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red-carded.

"That is the thing, he caught me, he should have given a red card and penalty and to be honest, you have to blame him - he made a lot mistakes and a lot of wrong decisions," he continued.
Spurs boss Harry Redknapp
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agreed that they would rather have seen Cech sent-off and a penalty, rather than just having Gareth Bale's goal.

"I felt if the keeper has been sent-off and we get a penalty I would much rather of had that, the odds are we would have scored and they would have lost their keeper," he added.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/7676688/Adebayor-Killing-the-game
 

Sanj

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If it didn't hurt so much it would be funny:cry: :
Atkinson and Clattenberg will be the goal-line assistants for the Bayern v Real Madrid Champions league semi-final on Tuesday.
Shaft Spurs and get rewarded - its a UEFA conspiracy - not just an FA thing !!!!
 

ultimateloner

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MA should come out and apologize, then not ref for the Euro game. The decision was so poor it's indefensible.
I also lament the loss of sporting behavior in this country. Players like JT can't command respect. Pride should come ahead of winning.
 

StartingPrice

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I still think Atkinson gave the goal solely because he didn't have a clue, but the Chelsea players were celebrating. In which case, aside from criticising Atkinson, we should also be criticising the Chelsea players who must have known the ball hadn't crossed the line and yet celebrated anyway.

Also, didn't Terry foul Cudicini - which was why they were all lying down behind the goal line in the first place?
 

BrenGun

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Ref is a joke. As he did not see the ball go over the line he must have just made his decision based on the reaction of the Chelsea players claiming it had and celebrating. So he was stitched and so were we. Cheating is a normal part of Chelsea's tactics. They must practice this like set pieces.
 

Riandor

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The commentary in Germany is really interesting (didn't see the FA Cup), but decisisons we would let players off with etc are picked up much more harshly on the continent. Against Norwich the commentator for Sky was pretty adamant that Norwich should have had the 2 penalties for example.

As much as I like a free flowing game, i think we could do with some of that discipline coming into the English game, as although it can look as though it slows the game etc, more decisions are made as there is less ambiguity. You fowl in the box, pen... end of.

I don't like sending keepers off myself, they have to come out and use their bodies etc to take out the ball if they can. I think a Yellow and a pen is enough unless it's a deliberate foul, like a tug back or no effort to play the ball.

Standard of refereeing in this country is poor. There have been a lot of bad decisions and not all against us. We just like to see the ones against us and moan about them.

I am not sure about bribery, never rule it out, but i think it's mainly incompetence.

R.
 

Bingy

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I don't have a problem with him not giving a yellow.

The yellow would be for a reckless foul but Cech's foul wasn't reckless. Just a simple trip.

The other option would be a tactical foul, which usually implies some sort of intent. Obviously Cech didn't deliberately take Ade out. One of my pet peeves is the whole "foul committed in penalty area so I must book someone" mentality that refs seem to have.
If it didn't hurt so much it would be funny:cry: :
Atkinson and Clattenberg will be the goal-line assistants for the Bayern v Real Madrid Champions league semi-final on Tuesday.
Shaft Spurs and get rewarded - its a UEFA conspiracy - not just an FA thing !!!!
The FA refs are the worst in Europe....be aware...without doubt...The rest of us (Euro fans) know how the FA fill the British public with the contrary assumption. Chelsea SHOULD have had played the remainder of the game (after we scored) with 10 men, without any shadow of a doubt! In any top class soccer nation...a referee who commits one rediculous act...in a career would be 'yesterdays meat'...but not in the EPL. Shame of you! Between divers...and attrocious referees....Britain is managing to maintain it's position as the 'jokecapital' of the, otherwise, top class soccer world. Johnny Foreigner is, once again, able to poke fun....but is there any disagreement, after what we are now experiencing....divers and premadonas! COYS!
 

nailsy

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As much as I agree with Adebayor and Harry that a penalty and a sending off would have been better than just the goal can you imagine how much stick the ref would have got for ruling out Bales goal? I just can't have a go at him for allowing it to stand.

And SP - I agree with you it was the players reactions that influenced the decision - although I think it was more Mata than JT this time.
 

Bingy

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MA should come out and apologize, then not ref for the Euro game. The decision was so poor it's indefensible.
I also lament the loss of sporting behavior in this country. Players like JT can't command respect. Pride should come ahead of winning.

JT is the arch-cheat...and can never be trusted to 'do what right thing'. Man Utd have a top class team of diving maestros....Forget Tom (Sir Tom?) Daley! Nobody can argue that the EPL is amoungst the most open to abiuse and corruption...led by the EPL/FA Alliance. Grow up England...get your act together...and stop 'throwing' mud...at your illustrious Euro neighbours....you will probably miss, anyway haha....COYS! End of rant...Bring back the Brit sense of fair play...it has been missing since 1066...and the epic Euro Cup games against the Normans. So....1000 years of pain () and torment! Be brave and show us the stiff, upper, Norman/Germanic lip.....although the present Royals share little with the Normans...apart from a big castle and dodgy teeth....COYS!
 
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