Martin Jol

[Makkaveli101]

Deserves a serious round of applause for sure....before and after the game. Be great to see him back at the Lane. I'm glad he's gone to a club that aren't unlikeable. Plus hopefully we can sell Fulham the likes of Keane, Jenas etc now.

 

[Casparian]

Absolutely describes how I feel about it. Will be really good to see the big man regularly again.

Anybody know how the Fulham fans are reacting?

http://cc.fulhamfc.com/forum/categories/fulham-and-football-in-general/listForCategory

is one to view the other less populated is..

http://www.fulhamweb.co.uk/messageboard/So-Martin-it-is-.aspx#943

Only not O'Neil, Jol Instead. It was not not my choice, but I guess we have to get behind him, even if he cannot speak English. On the positive side he could stay for a few years given the right results giving us the base for an extended stay in the top half of the season. On balance I guess, a good signing.

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Thank God it wasnt McClaren.All the Spurs supporters I know say unanimously that it is a good appointment particulary if it involves Hughton.One thing is for sure Lewington will be staying (at Al Fayed's insistence)just as he did when Hughes wanted rid of him as the insurance policy of it going wrong.As we all know if in January we were in trouble, Jol will be out of the door and Lewington will be holding the reins albeit temporarily.
posted by Keetch54 - Tuesday 07th June 2011, 12:16 PM
Firstly he speaks perfect english has a vast amount of experiance including a very succesful perioud at spurs, in my opinion great appointment europa cup final hear we come again
posted by greene (Guest) - Tuesday 07th June 2011, 1:21 PM
It's a shame it's not O'neill, but I can say I am fairly pleased, especially if hughton is really assisting, in case of a Hughes scenario, we can either have lewington or hughton as back-up, which are both quite good on their own. Jol plays attractive football, which I am looking forward to
posted by Revy (Guest) - Tuesday 07th June 2011, 1:22 PM

 

[Makkaveli101]

Great guy and will get an ovation at the lane that Harry has never had ...BUT.....lets keep it real, Jol is a nice bloke but only an above average manager,i would consider it a step backwards if he were to rejoin us.

I think he's a better manager than Redknapp. You gotta remember Redknapp has had a much stronger squad at his disposal than Jol did. We played some beautiful attacking football under Jol.

I'm not dissing Arry, but I think Jol could have achieved what Arry has with those players.

05/06 team (Jol's best season)

Robinson
Stalteri
King/Gardner
Dawson
Lee
Lennon
Jenas
Carrick
Davids
Keane
Mido

09/10 Redknapps best season

Gomes
Corluka
Dawson
King
Akotto
Lennon
Modric
Hudd
Bale
Defoe
Crouch

I'd say Redknapps team is the stronger.

 

[Viva la Tottenham]

goodluck to the big man, will be interesting to see how he does

 

[Legend10]

I see a season of struggle ahead for Fullham.

 

[mil1lion]

I think he's a better manager than Redknapp. You gotta remember Redknapp has had a much stronger squad at his disposal than Jol did. We played some beautiful attacking football under Jol.

I'm not dissing Arry, but I think Jol could have achieved what Arry has with those players.

05/06 team (Jol's best season)

Robinson
Stalteri
King/Gardner
Dawson
Lee
Lennon
Jenas
Carrick
Davids
Keane
Mido

09/10 Redknapps best season

Gomes
Corluka
Dawson
King
Akotto
Lennon
Modric
Hudd
Bale
Defoe
Crouch

I'd say Redknapps team is the stronger.

We play beautiful attacking with Redknapp too.

I think it's too difficult to judge. We may have a stronger squad under Harry but the league is also stronger now. Not to mention Harry had to juggle Champions League and League football this season, but still got us in 5th.

One of the big differences for me is that Harry has got some much bigger and more memorable wins under his belt than Martin. We've beaten Liverpool at Anfield, Arsenal at the Emirates, Milan at San Siro. The team may be better but the competition is much harder.

Good luck to Martin Jol in his new job though. He is a top character who has very strong man management skills. I like Fulham as a club too, so delighted he didn't end up at West Ham.

 

[cusop]

Martin Jol is a brillaint guy and very good and was mistreated in the end by Spurs and I think he is better manager than twitchy

 

[Viva la Tottenham]

owwww gggaawwwddd the numpties are out

 

[Spurger King]

owwww gggaawwwddd the numpties are out

I've been meaning to ask...is that picture in your avatar actually you, or Rubens Barrichello?

 

[jamesc0le]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqVn1DrwwIw

 

[Eric_s]

He harldy failed at Ajax and Hamburg, and have you conveniently forgot the way he transformed us into a regular top 5 side? If BMJ had the kind of resources and control that harry has i honestly think we'd be up there challenging.

At hamburg, Jol had money to spend and a very good squad. During his two seasons there, the big three of Germany were struggling to challenge for honours. What did Jol's hamburg do? They allowed small teams such as Hertha Berlin and Wolsburg to perform better than them. Of the top five teams, hamburg's goal difference was the worst, single digit whereas three above them and the one below them had way better goal difference, despite hamburg having a stronger squad then them?

At Ajax, his squad again is the strongest, with PSV going backwards steadily. Yet his Ajax did not ever look like winning the league. Before his departure last season, ajax was a distant third, with Twente and PSV fighting for the title. After he departed, followed by the sale of Suarez, Ajax over take the other two and won the title.

If those were not failures, then I suppose you will be happy to see Spurs finishing top 10 every season while the lovable big jol manage us. Under him our players grew fat and had very poor fitness. Defensively we were pathetic, and display little evidence of organisation.

I do not hate him. I simply see through his ability to mesmerise people and judge him by his managing ability.

 

[Viva la Tottenham]

I've been meaning to ask...is that picture in your avatar actually you, or Rubens Barrichello?

 

[Eric_s]

Please expand on you clearly well thought through analysis.

Well I also got a negative rep by some idiot or gay boyfriend of jol. Get over it. Or better get back to worshipping your idol.

 

[C0YS]

At hamburg, Jol had money to spend and a very good squad. During his two seasons there, the big three of Germany were struggling to challenge for honours. What did Jol's hamburg do? They allowed small teams such as Hertha Berlin and Wolsburg to perform better than them. Of the top five teams, hamburg's goal difference was the worst, single digit whereas three above them and the one below them had way better goal difference, despite hamburg having a stronger squad then them?

At Ajax, his squad again is the strongest, with PSV going backwards steadily. Yet his Ajax did not ever look like winning the league. Before his departure last season, ajax was a distant third, with Twente and PSV fighting for the title. After he departed, followed by the sale of Suarez, Ajax over take the other two and won the title.

If those were not failures, then I suppose you will be happy to see Spurs finishing top 10 every season while the lovable big jol manage us. Under him our players grew fat and had very poor fitness. Defensively we were pathetic, and display little evidence of organisation.

I do not hate him. I simply see through his ability to mesmerise people and judge him by his managing ability.

Try and at least get you're facts right before trying to make a post.

In Jol's single season at HSV he guided them to the UEFA cup semi's, as well as being in a title race for half a season. HSV finished 5th despite selling their best player in VdV, and if you see what HSV have done since Jol as left i.e. finish 7th and 8th. HSV fans almost all of them thought Jol's first season was a success, and where gutted to see him walk out!

When he took over Ajax he took over a team who had not one the Eredivisie since the 2003-2004 and had not one a traophy season 2006-2007. In his first season he led them to a domestic trophy and Second position, second by one point. A 17 point improvment on the year before, and a point tally which under almost every other season would of been enough to win the title. His next season started badly, him trying to push a move to Fulham couldn't of helped with the players, Fans and board. Like at Tottenham, that season he was a dead man walking before he eventually resigned

 

[Eric_s]

Try and at least get you're facts right before trying to make a post.

In Jol's single season at HSV he guided them to the UEFA cup semi's, as well as being in a title race for half a season. HSV finished 5th despite selling their best player in VdV, and if you see what HSV have done since Jol as left i.e. finish 7th and 8th. HSV fans almost all of them thought Jol's first season was a success, and where gutted to see him walk out!

When he took over Ajax he took over a team who had not one the Eredivisie since the 2003-2004 and had not one a traophy season 2006-2007. In his first season he led them to a domestic trophy and Second position, second by one point. A 17 point improvment on the year before, and a point tally which under almost every other season would of been enough to win the title. His next season started badly, him trying to push a move to Fulham couldn't of helped with the players, Fans and board. Like at Tottenham, that season he was a dead man walking before he eventually resigned

Who won the title that season? If you prefer to see things this way, you are entitled to. Reports in Germany were saying HSV was about to sack Jol until Ajax came in for him. Jol spent a large sum of money in Germany standard, bar Munich, at HSV. I guess it depends on which fans you listen to and which reports you choose to believe.

As for Ajax, I guess it proves de boer as one of the best manger in the world now. He went in halfway and turned Ajax into champions.

 

[C0YS]

Who won the title that season? If you prefer to see things this way, you are entitled to. Reports in Germany were saying HSV was about to sack Jol until Ajax came in for him. Jol spent a large sum of money in Germany standard, bar Munich, at HSV. I guess it depends on which fans you listen to and which reports you choose to believe.

As for Ajax, I guess it proves de boer as one of the best manger in the world now. He went in halfway and turned Ajax into champions.

Wolfsburg did, and no, he was about to get sacked from ajax but not HSV.

 

[Eric_s]

Wolfsburg did, and no, he was about to get sacked from ajax but not HSV.

Like I said, it depends on which media report you read.

Jol's season at HSV if translated to the BPL would be something like this:
Imagine the season just ended. The big five, Man u, Chelsea, Arse, City and pool were having very bad season, struggling at mid-table. Spurs under Harry with its talented squad were staring at its best chance at winning the title. We fought against Bolton, Birmingham and Blackburn for the title and ended in 4th placing. However, we made it to the quater-final of the CL. Would you describe it as a successful season? That was what HSV went through that season, hence the HSV board wanted jol out.
As for HSV subsequent slip down the table, well its because the big three of Germany started to get their act together, and the suprise emergence of a couple of unfancied teams.

 

[MrWoolley]

It'll be brilliant to have him back in the Premiership. Best of luck to him and I look forward to seeing him back at the Lane!

 

[Legacy]

Try and at least get you're facts right before trying to make a post.

In Jol's single season at HSV he guided them to the UEFA cup semi's, as well as being in a title race for half a season. HSV finished 5th despite selling their best player in VdV, and if you see what HSV have done since Jol as left i.e. finish 7th and 8th. HSV fans almost all of them thought Jol's first season was a success, and where gutted to see him walk out!

I'm almost certain they also lost Kompany during the same window they lost Van der Vaart too, so they lost their two best players.

Had the club been able to retain those two players, who knows where HSV could've finished? They were only three points away from a Champion's League place, and only 8 points away from 1st place.

Van der Vaart scored 12 goals in his final season with Hamburg. So add the number of goals VdV could've scored along with the goals Kompany could've helped to not concede, and it's not beyond the realms of imagination to think that they would've gotten the extra three points needed to qualify for the CL.

 

[Real_madyidd]

Well I also got a negative rep by some idiot or gay boyfriend of jol. Get over it. Or better get back to worshipping your idol.

Very defensive aren't you?

I would imagine that you blind hatred of Jol and your "facts" that have now clearly been demonstrated to be completely fictional (including the number of seasons at a club, seriously that is basic) have led you to get so defensive.

It's OK to be wrong you know.

I just feel sorry for BMJ that once again he is going to a club that will be happy to sell its best players (like the last two clubs and to an extent Spurs didn't really back him).