Match Threads - what is it you want?

[jimbo]

Would it be possible to make it so that you can only post in the match thread if you've 'read' all the posts? Obviously you could just scroll the pages rather than read them properly, but it might slow things down and help people to control the posting of their brainfarts and engage more in the actual match discussion instead?

 

[chrissivad]

There is nothing wrong with venting against players, I'm sure most people do it

It's how some are venting, the ones that seem to be wanting us to fuck up so they then come on to start calling players names ect.

 

[TheHoddleWaddle]

How about just having a Venting thread. Carte blanche to go in there and vent to your heart's content.

I get the need to vent, it's important to have somewhere to do it and people certainly should not be denied the right to do so. I just think that it should not be done while people are actually trying to discuss football.

We aren't going to win every gamez and when we don't it would be nice to talk constructively about why we failed without being accused of being pro this or anti that.

Trouble is. The match day threads are more spontaneous, In the moment affairs. Which is why they are often so different. On fact, its what you are pretty much describing at times.

There may be room for a more constructive match day thread, however there will be blurred lines etc. I dont think there is a please all option?

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

I dont think there is a please all option?

There is never a please all option

 

[davidmatzdorf]

There is nothing wrong with venting against players, I'm sure most people do it

It's how some are venting, the ones that seem to be wanting us to fuck up so they then come on to start calling players names ect.

Also ban all posts that can't spell "etc."

 

[ILS]

Please can we also ban posters who want to make substitutions at half time every game knowing full well it hardly ever happens apart from when their playing Football Manager?

 

[FloridaSpur]

How about a “toxic” rating that hides a post if it gets enough of them?

My problem with that is that is that TFC had something similar with red cards and all the knobs coordinated in secret to try and use it to be knobs.

We could maybe make it work though. But is it a good idea? Can you guys self-moderate each other?

Rob,

I have no answer to the issue, so probably shouldn't comment at all, but to self moderate each other would simply not work. I mean even @yankspurs argues with himself.

 

[jurgen11]

Rename it "Sing when We're Winning" and only allow posts when we are winning. When we are drawing or god forbid losing, no posting. That should keep the mood light

 

[Dannyspur]

I don't think that the Mods, should have to spend match days keeping an eye on every post. It is their match day too - perhaps they would like to watch the game and not have to worry about a bunch of dicks upsetting one another. Unfortunately in today's society a lot of people feel that they can do and say just as they want with no regard to decency and respect.
I post when I am not at games and to me its like watching the game with my mates, trouble is it is like watching in the pub with a load of drunken idiots too. Getting exasperated at sloppy play is natural, FFS xxxxx is not a problem, but some of the vitriol on here is disgusting. I don't know how you police it without causing tons of work for some poor bugger. Even retrospective bans for persistent offenders requires time and effort to implement.
If you have two match threads, who is going to post in the 'sensible discussion' thread as opposed to the 'post like a dick' thread? Everyone - because even the worst offenders believe all the shite they post is their valid opinion. I don't go along with the knee jerk theory - I bet most of those posters are just jerks in 'real life' too.

Good Luck sorting it!

 

[Yiddo100]

Could people just not go in the match day thread if they don’t like it,? Surely that’s easiest, I very rarely go into the match day threads because it’s full of very emotionally charged people talking shite and even more so when losing ( which I get).

Even though I don’t venture into them don’t think getting rid of the match day threads is the best option, nobody is forced to click on the thread.

 

[FloridaSpur]

There is nothing wrong with venting against players, I'm sure most people do it

It's how some are venting, the ones that seem to be wanting us to fuck up so they then come on to start calling players names ect.

I can't think or find a single football fan site from any PL club where players do not get abused in one way or another. Some of this is self inflicted where links are placed in here to other fans forums when we have beaten them (Man City away being a prime example).

The sad thing in here is when a someone doesn't agree with a post about a players performance if it gets replied to with a different view instead of accepting a second point of view the original poster tends to spam the reply with vitriol.

This is all too often the case and leads to threads going on and on about who is right, wrong and everything in-between.

Is there a way to limit the number of responses to a posting by a single member in the match day thread?

Other than that just wear a thicker skin and tin helmet?

 

[chrissivad]

Could people just not go in the match day thread if they don’t like it,? Surely that’s easiest, I very rarely go into the match day threads because it’s full of very emotionally charged people talking shite and even more so when losing ( which I get).

Even though I don’t venture into them don’t think getting rid of the match day threads is the best option, nobody is forced to click on the thread.

Because there are a lot of people who do like the match thread, but not in the state it's in just now.

 

[Neon_Knight_]

Just leave it alone. Most fans are watching the game anyway. I take brief looks but why would proper fans that are glued to the game have time to post anyway?? I’ve posted a couple of subs I want or Reggie is as bad as Davies at crossing in the past (week lol) it’s basically a thread where people vent or cheer as maybe they don’t have people in their rooms/ houses to talk to about what’s going on. Don’t take that away from them imo. If people don’t like it then just stay away from it. I love some non football threads on here more than some of the football threads. Read what you like and swerve what you don’t. Every fan is different.

I tend to post at half-time and post-match, but occasionally use the thread to vent / praise the team during the game when I'm watching home alone. Venting about factual things that just happened is very different to the members who find any excuse they can to criticise the same things / players over and over again every match (e.g. whole team's performance is underwhelming and we're being overrun in midfield, but the criticism is focused on Winks (essentially for not being Dembele / Modric), even though everyone around him is also struggling....or we make defensive errors as a team and Winks gets the blame (essentially for not being Wanyama). It gets old fast and no-one wants to read it, other than those who enjoy their own echo chamber.

 

[Neon_Knight_]

I can't think or find a single football fan site from any PL club where players do not get abused in one way or another. Some of this is self inflicted where links are placed in here to other fans forums when we have beaten them (Man City away being a prime example).

The sad thing in here is when a someone doesn't agree with a post about a players performance if it gets replied to with a different view instead of accepting a second point of view the original poster tends to spam the reply with vitriol.

This is all too often the case and leads to threads going on and on about who is right, wrong and everything in-between.

Is there a way to limit the number of responses to a posting by a single member in the match day thread?

Other than that just wear a thicker skin and tin helmet?

I often struggle with the fact that people who don't want to discuss anything post in discussions on a forum. It's almost like some people think they're doing everyone else a favour by posting their opinions, on the basis that they seem to think they're always right.

Dishing out negative ratings without also replying - to valid opinions that are backed up by a clearly articulated explanation of the OP's reasoning (potentially with facts & statistics to back it up) - will never help the mood of a thread either. The in-person equivalent to this would be shouting "Shut up idiot, you're wrong!" and then walking off without explaining why you think that person is wrong. ?
If someone posts something highly controversial or provocative, that may be a reasonable response. If they take the time to justify themselves, it isn't.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

I find the match thread entertaining... I think people on here, and not aiming it at anyone as I have no clue, need to chill. Its the same as like referreeing decisions when everyone just goes up in arms etc. Just chill... if you dont like it then dont go in but really its being taken way too seriously.

To be honest apart from Emerson who is really really shit, i personally havent really harpered on about shitness but I dont mind it if others moan and groan... the thread is just spurs fans airing their annoyances and grievances... I see it as therapy. We are all in it together in terms of the team being shit or great... and how we all use it is ofcourse going to be different.

I think the match thread is taken way too seriously and its not going to be an articulate english literature masterpiece, its a fucking thread of drunks, idiots, passionate, frustrated and devoid of any success spurs fans. I would suggest go with the flow and have a laugh in the thread.

I mean the alternative is you have two threads, one for the quintessential football intelligent purist who want to use the thread to discuss the 90 mins palava in a considered way and one for the Emerson is fucking shit and wondering what would happen to the joke 'why did the chicken cross the road' if you replaced chicken with Emerson given he couldnt fucking cross a road let alone a ball.

One thing I dont agree with is one poster perhaps insulting sanother... dont like it. Be nice and slate them behind their backs and not to them.

Exactly how I've used it over the last couple of months.

I can't actually believe people take the thread seriously, it's just funny.

Post before the game, and during it, post the odd thing about a certain good passage of play.

Then go back into the thread after the game, or the day after & read through the comments that have ended up looking nothing other than foolish.

It's just funny. I only go in it for the LOLS (that's for @Nine while nine )

 

[tevezito]

Haven't got time to read through the thread I'm afraid (maybe one of the problems with the Match day thread?) so apologies if already suggested, which almost certainly has, but I would suggest having a pre-/post-match thread and an in-match thread. I always read before the match and then jump to where the match ends and carry on from there. So I have no issues with the match day thread, because I read the bits I want and expect there to be over reaction but that's half the fun. Of course, if the people who complain about th thread did the same, we wouldn't need two threads in the first place. The main problem for me with the site as a whole is people complaining that they have to read things they don't want to - which is a ridiculous argument. Just skim through until you see something or somebody you think might be worth reading and then slow down there.

Another solution might be to extend the blue backgrounds for ITK - have a colour coding for posters with different levels of rating. Nice blues, greens and purples for people with majorly positive ratings and oranges, yellows and reds for people with lots of negative reps, or would that be rainbow fascism? ?‍

 

[mmidgers]

There is nothing wrong with venting against players, I'm sure most people do it

It's how some are venting, the ones that seem to be wanting us to fuck up so they then come on to start calling players names ect.

And that they do it in every other thread is what's so tedious. I've no problems with someone having a moan, but do it in the appropriate thread and don't spam the entire board with it.

 

[qqq1]

There is nothing wrong with venting against players, I'm sure most people do it

It's how some are venting, the ones that seem to be wanting us to fuck up so they then come on to start calling players names ect.

If Winks is coming on as a sub this happens before he's even got onto the pitch.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

I think people take things too seriously.

In my view, Match threads are for heat of the moment reactions, plus a bit of moaning when the line-ups come out, and your preferred line-up is not actually preferred. You can't really take anyone seriously in there.

I do find it amusing though when I get a reaction to a past 2-3 days after the match...who has time to go back through those threads afterwards??

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

Exactly how I've used it over the last couple of months.

I can't actually believe people take the thread seriously, it's just funny.

Post before the game, and during it, post the odd thing about a certain good passage of play.

Then go back into the thread after the game, or the day after & read through the comments that have ended up looking nothing other than foolish.

It's just funny. I only go in it for the LOLS (that's for @Nine while nine )

Listen, shitbird- if you’re going to toady to @Nine while nine you can fuck right off back to Camborne. He’s mine- without me he’s just a couple of confused sixes