Match Threads - what is it you want?

[absolute bobbins]

How about the ability to mute posters, either by thread or for a fixed duration. It's different from a block because you may want to hear what they have to say when cooler heads prevail but can't be arsed to deal with the hyperbolic prattle on matchday.

 

[Nocando]

How about a “toxic” rating that hides a post if it gets enough of them?

My problem with that is that is that TFC had something similar with red cards and all the knobs coordinated in secret to try and use it to be knobs.

We could maybe make it work though. But is it a good idea? Can you guys self-moderate each other?

I think that's a good idea. Can the poster get a notification to let them know so if it gets abused ala TFC they can raise it with mods. It would also need some audit trail of those given toxic ratings so this c be looked into.

Appreciate it may mean extra admin but hopefully the greater good will reduce workload.

 

[Reado]

I don't get the match thread at all in terms of people commenting during the match. I read it pre-game, then after the match I read the post-match thoughts, and if we've won/something big happened I may try and find the time when it happened and see what people said. I don't get who is sat on their phone/computer during the game and has time to write things. Call me boring but I just watch the game Having it open pre, post, and maybe half-time would be good? Would remove kneejerk reactions and vitriol. And to touch on my first point, not one part of me when watching a game when I'm celebrating a goal do I want to open SC and go to the match thread and type "WOOOO" like I don't get who does that!

 

[Nocando]

I don't get the match thread at all in terms of people commenting during the match. I read it pre-game, then after the match I read the post-match thoughts, and if we've won/something big happened I may try and find the time when it happened and see what people said. I don't get who is sat on their phone/computer during the game and has time to write things. Call me boring but I just watch the game Having it open pre, post, and maybe half-time would be good? Would remove kneejerk reactions and vitriol. And to touch on my first point, not one part of me when watching a game when I'm celebrating a goal do I want to open SC and go to the match thread and type "WOOOO" like I don't get who does that!

Yeah im exactly the same as you but Each to their own. If people want to post during then they will find a way, in other threads etc.

 

[Reado]

Yeah im exactly the same as you but Each to their own. If people want to post during then they will find a way, in other threads etc.

I suppose so. I often text my dad or mates so I suppose that's the same thing as posting in here come to think of it.

 

[branchie]

Is there a way to identify the posters that have been put on "ignore" the most?

Can you then create a special thread for them only?

 

[WeGotLedley]

I would +1 some form of throttling, tends to be a few people going back and forth that derail it the most.

And other part that I find frustrating / think others do, is the wildly off topic spirals. Happened in the ITK and often does in match threads. Might just be how I read them (pre and post game), but come in and often see pages of the same posts that are not talking about the match at all. At times it's even slagging off players who didn't even play.
Some form of rating (I'd suggested off topic) which would auto ignore (like twitter did with trumps BS tweets) unless you follow that person might be a way to balance it? Not too much manual mod work, but cleans up the threads for most readers? Though suspect then need to have some way repeat offenders do then get flagged (ideally with a timeout vs a ban, to reflect for most it's the passion coming out badly vs just being a tw**)

 

[Gassin's finest]

Just don't do match threads. Make people actually watch the football, instead of furiously tapping away on their phone/laptop.

 

[E17yid]

You can close your account? How do you do that?

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

You can close your account? How do you do that?

You send me a PM and I twat you across the noggin with the banstick.

 

[Harrier]

It’s a difficult one.

Everyone should be entitled to freely express their opinion, but the constant negativity from some can become quite wearing.

Personally I just stay clear of some of the threads if they become too negative and toxic.

 

[Flobadob]

Personally I’d rather not have any opinion moderated. Whether someone’s opinion is negative or positive it’s just as valid. If you don’t like negativity then scroll past it and forget about it. Maybe we could have a “things I’m feeling positive about thread” permanently in Spurs chat? Just to try and give people that would prefer to read more positive things somewhere more consistent for them to go

 

[spurs mental]

Seen it on another forum(not a Spurs one) that they have game commentary and there's only a few that post the goings on. Then they have an a HT discussion and FT discussion where people can engage.

I rarely, if possible, use or read the match threads lately because of;

A) the anger
B) the pages move too fast and it's hard to keep up.

On point A: at the time of posting people are usually wound up and annoyed about what they're watching. Open up the discussion thread half an hour after FT when people have cooled down a little. If you haven't then try not to post.

On point B: if anyone is not able to watch the game it would be good to be able to come in and read how the game is going or what's happening, without having to sift through a load of "FFS insert player name here"

I'd lock all player threads until that time as well if you could. I've done it myself where I've gone to a thread at FT to stick the knife in. I did it in Romeros thread on Saturday night myself as soon as the whistle went.

It's easier to discuss objectively when you've had time to reflect, calm down and breath for a while. It would potentially remove the vitriol.

It may also help other areas of the forum become livelier where people may not be bothered with.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Personally I’d rather not have any opinion moderated. Whether someone’s opinion is negative or positive it’s just as valid. If you don’t like negativity then scroll past it and forget about it. Maybe we could have a “things I’m feeling positive about thread” permanently in Spurs chat? Just to try and give people that would prefer to read more positive things somewhere more consistent for them to go

So, 'opinions' like

Winks should die in a fire, Doherty is a cancer, this or that player is a **** and should fuck off........

We've had that kind of thing a number of times lately. Where do you stand on that.

Again, this isn't so much about positivity v negativity and more about how that's expressed. I think

 

[ShelfWatcher]

Take away ratings on the match threads. Or at least the negative ones and red ones, it winds people up more

Yep, I don't mind disagrees but when people give me wtfs sarcastic funnies and dislikes for what I think are valid opinions, it just makes me feel negative towards those posters
I don't bother replying to them, because I don't want to derail threads with slanging matches. But it doesn't help poster harmony. Of course if the negative ratings are there, people are free to use but mostly it just makes me feel negative towards those people.

 

[spurs mental]

If you don’t like negativity then scroll past it and forget about it.

There currently wouldn't be much to read in that case

But in all seriousness, the negativity isn't healthy for anyone, poster or reader. We can't control what goes on on the pitch, at the club. Control the controllables.

I'm liable to get annoyed watching the games, even when we were 5 up v Everton the other night I was irritated we took our foot off the pedal.

But then the game was over and that was it.

I was very annoyed on Saturday evening with the pattern of the game and the end result. But then switched on a movie and it was done.

 

[mpickard2087]

Match thread is small fry to the wider issue. My suggestion is that there are about (for starters) 10-15 people on here, some of those who are extremely obviously on “regen” accounts, who should be banned for the greater benefit of the forum.

These lot aren’t just knee-jerking or getting carried away in the rollercoaster of emotions during a match, on every thread throughout Spurs Chat it’s just 24/7 relentless spamming and being an all-round shit poster.

We all know mistakes have been made in the recent past, most of the fanbase would coalesce around certain opinions on certain subjects….. And a lot of things are no revelation to fans but can’t be fixed overnight with the wave of a wand. This type of poster though just every day revisits the same topics and/or whenever anything goes wrong and repeats themselves en masse…. Whether that’s we fucked up in recent years, or didn’t buy anyone in 2018, or Levy is a ****, or <insert player here> is shit (and much worse on top of that) and should never play for us again, the team is crap, etc etc etc. Hint guys, we noted your opinion the 1st, 2nd, and 5555555555555th times, you can stop now.

This might be just about tolerable if they offered anything in the way of quality debate/discussion and their own ideas and visions about how Spurs could/should go forward, but nah…. And no guys, just spouting BUY BETTER PLAYERS/RELEASE THESE WASTERS/SELL UP ENIC/SPEND SOME MONEY/SHOW AMBITION/BACK THE MANAGER!!! isn’t really that at all. That’s obvious and basic slogans and just more angry noise 99.9% of the time….

I’m nowhere near as prolific a poster as I used to be, but I can only offer up my opinion on what I see. The quality has nosedived on here, and you just get a lot of relentless basic repeat crap-posting. I don’t mind anyone looking at things critically or even negatively, fucking hell in my time on here I’ve been harder to please in all things Spurs than virtually anyone, but there are some who offer nothing constructive and it’s just spam that’s needs removing.

 

[daveduvet]

I think self-moderation works if there are consequences.

If you get x amount of people rating your posts badly, it removes your ability to post in match thread for example.

I guess the first step is identifying the problem and I don't think we've done that yet.

Is it a small number of idiots who we just need to find a mechanism to identify and remove?
Is it a majority of people? We can't ban everyone... (A&C, this one's for your benefit )
Is it less the people and more the situation? If the match thread wasn't so "live" and raw would that change how people post in it?
Is it only an issue when we play poorly or are the same people doing similar even without a good reason?

I think the first step is figuring out the problem.

Self moderation… there’s probably alcohol involved when stuff is posted … it’d be interesting to see whether the early kick-off match threads are as toxic as later ones where folk are more likely intoxicated.
… player bashing is tedious … I find myself making involuntary exhalations when I see Winks (especially) being hauled over the coals again & again. I’m sure I’ve been guilty on occasions of moaning, but I’ve noticed I’m more accepting now Conte is in charge, as I see a plan - at last! - coming into being. I really wouldn’t want the match thread removed whilst the game is on as I feel there’s more harmony in there than harmfulness. The ratings thread seems less threatening as the fervour has - for reasonable folk - quelled somewhat. I tend to only respond to ridiculously outlandish posts in the match thread; overall I find it amusing and an enjoyable part of watching the game. Self- moderation with swearing removed? Reduces the vitriol somewhat? Maybe three-strikes & out for the match day thread?

 

[daveduvet]

Probably a unpopular opinion but I don't see the problem.
It doesnt matter what people vent. Let them vent.
They just look silly when it all turns around anyway.
In the grand scheme of things does it matter?
If people don't want to read it then dont read it.
I dont think it'll ever be the insightful, thoughtful Eutopia some want it to be.
Its a forum after all.
If someone posts something twatish just neg rate if you feel the need and move on.
CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?
?

Bloody hippy ?

 

[daveduvet]

A ‘knee-jerk’ emoji for the match thread would be quite funny