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Morgan Schneiderlin Signs For United

TEESSIDE1

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If we want any chance of Southampton selling to us, it's going to likely take us giving them a player in return they would want. My first guess would be Townsend which all things considered would be ideal so long as we have a decent WF coming

judging by the droves of comments on saints web, they think Townsend is sh*t.
 

parklane yid

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Can't believe I'm even on this page reading this in hope, we have to accept this is not going to happen. And before u ask why for so many reasons that we are very aware of
 

yido_number1

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Schneiderlin is a good player but I don't see him as a £25m player. Modric was only fractionally more and he was out of this world. I know the money in the game has moved a lot in a few years but seriously. 15-18 would be about market rate above that and you are getting bent over!
 

Mr Pink

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Schneiderlin is a good player but I don't see him as a £25m player. Modric was only fractionally more and he was out of this world. I know the money in the game has moved a lot in a few years but seriously. 15-18 would be about market rate above that and you are getting bent over!

I never tend to view it like that. Its about how much he's worth, potentially, to your team - in a collective sense, not just looking at it from an individual point of view, which is too simplistic.
 

danielneeds

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Schneiderlin is a good player but I don't see him as a £25m player. Modric was only fractionally more and he was out of this world. I know the money in the game has moved a lot in a few years but seriously. 15-18 would be about market rate above that and you are getting bent over!
When you consider that he's home grown, and has had some of the best DM stats in the PL for the last two years - passing, tackling, interceptions - I don't think it's that high. Maybe a tad, but not too much.
 

yido_number1

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I never tend to view it like that. Its about how much he's worth, potentially, to your team - in a collective sense, not just looking at it from an individual point of view, which is too simplistic.

Well considering our finances he definitely isnt worth that to us. To UTD 25m is nothing and they can throw that money around willy nilly. We just can't afford to do that. I'd back Poch and Mitchell to find someone equally as fitted to the system for a lot less money.
 

Baddabing

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They seem to value MS at £27m. Just because they shafted everyone last year doesn't mean they can do it again.

He isn't worth that. Good player, but overrated imo. If you were offered Nabil or MS who would choose (bear in mind their relative ages)?
 

Japhet

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Schneiderlin is a good player but I don't see him as a £25m player. Modric was only fractionally more and he was out of this world. I know the money in the game has moved a lot in a few years but seriously. 15-18 would be about market rate above that and you are getting bent over!



There's a possibility we could have made top 4 last season with Schneiderlin or similar. Our defence and goals against cost us big time and who knows what difference he could have made. In that case, the transfer fee becomes pretty academic.
 

Mr Pink

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Well considering our finances he definitely isnt worth that to us. To UTD 25m is nothing and they can throw that money around willy nilly. We just can't afford to do that. I'd back Poch and Mitchell to find someone equally as fitted to the system for a lot less money.

Well I disagree, I think he would be worth it - and by streamlining the squad by selling a lot of the mediocre squad fillers and replacing them with quality fits like MS makes eminent sense.

Its not likely now so I'm sure we're working on other other targets down the list. But had we been able to do this, I think most would of been well up for it and it would of been acheivable financially with Levy relaxing his valuations on others to free up space and monies.
 
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tdk101

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Southampton wants at least £25m. Levy would not pay £25m. There is nothing much more to say about this saga.
 

SpartanSpur

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I'd find it hard to put a price on the perfect player for our most important area for improvement to be honest.

In the cold light of day its far too much, but in reality it transforms our whole team. Adds leadership, a defensive shield, understanding of the system while still retaining the vertical passing required. Augments the whole side.

Still going to Utd however.
 

yido_number1

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Well I disagree, I think he would be worth it - ans by streamlining the squad by selling a lot of the mediocre squad fillers and replacing them with quality fits like MS makes eminent sense.

Its not likely now so I'm sure we're working on other other targets down the list. But had we been able to do this, I think most would of been well up for it and it would of been acheivable financially with Levy relaxing his valuations on others to free up space and monies.

I agree he would add to the team a lot but he wouldn't be a miracle cure to our predictable forward play or the comical mistakes the back four made at times last year. Considering we generally haven't net spent in the last few years I would say spending half that on a MF and FWD would be more important than just that on MS.

All opinion lead as you said, I rate him highly but not for that money.
 

Mr Pink

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I'd find it hard to put a price on the perfect player for our most important area for improvement to be honest.

In the cold light of day its far too much, but in reality it transforms our whole team. Adds leadership, a defensive shield, understanding of the system while still retaining the vertical passing required. Augments the whole side.

Still going to Utd however.

But's that just it. Why do fans care if its 18 million or 25 million. If it transformed our team and made a significant difference would they be crying that we overspent if we were reflecting on a great season and it was very evident he made a big difference to the team?

And, furthermore, if Levy/and Poch thinks it doable and worth it, is that not the most important thing? Let them worry about whether we can do the deal or not. Selling a couple of players to help finance the deal who have actually contributed very little etc.

I always believe its about stepping back and seeing the bigger picture.

This is all moot and hypothetical because its not going to happen though, but just wanted to rationalize it.
 

yankspurs

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They seem to value MS at £27m. Just because they shafted everyone last year doesn't mean they can do it again.

He isn't worth that. Good player, but overrated imo. If you were offered Nabil or MS who would choose (bear in mind their relative ages)?
What does Benaleb have to do with this? He would partner Schneiderlin for us. Yes, £27m seems a bit much at first glance, but in todays market, that's not too far off what first team quality, homegrown, relatively young player goes for. Have you seen the valuation for McCarthy? Everton want like £22m for him and Schneiderlin is a better player than him. Doesnt matter much because Schneiderlin is going to United and we wont pay £20m for McCarthy.
 

worcestersauce

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As I've said before, it isn't about how good or bad he is it is about the fact that Pochottino knows that he is perfect for his team, you could buy any number of better players that wouldn't necessarily be as good for the team as someone like that.
It has to be said Utd wouldn't have had this faffing around with Ferguson in charge, if he'd wanted him they'd have gone for him but if he is a player that they might as well take because they can't get who they really want Ferguson wouldn't take him anyway.
 
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