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Morgan Schneiderlin Signs For United

septicsac

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I know DL likes a good deal, but this could be one worth paying the extra few pound and getting the man the manager wants. All depends on whether MS is willing to wait on the likes of MU
 

Baddabing

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What does Benaleb have to do with this? He would partner Schneiderlin for us. Yes, £27m seems a bit much at first glance, but in todays market, that's not too far off what first team quality, homegrown, relatively young player goes for. Have you seen the valuation for McCarthy? Everton want like £22m for him and Schneiderlin is a better player than him. Doesnt matter much because Schneiderlin is going to United and we wont pay £20m for McCarthy.


Waaaay too much.
 

AJW

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Don't know if it has been posted but Bild saying Man United signed Bastin Schweinsteiger for 20 million euros
 

sundanceyid10

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If and I mean BIG IF Levy could clear out all the players he wants including Adebayor maybe in a streamlined squad we make an offer, still dont think so though.
 

raggy

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Like even if Schneiderlin's guys get on the phone to us and say put the bid in and he'll join... do we really still want him?

Now he sees his mate Toby not messing around and taking his move to a big club that showed the most interest, meanwhile he finds himself in the cold with his fabled Champions League clubs giving him the run-around because they aren't sure about him. So is it right that we even go for him if he suddenly shows an interest in us?

I realise most answers to this are going to be yes. Because he would instantly improve our starting 11 and he is ideal for the system Poch wants to play. Still I can't help feeling slightly put off by how he has handled this entire thing.
 

Bus-Conductor

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If United do get Schweinsteiger the MS situation will get very interesting.

I don't think Arsenal want him, and maybe outsiders are City and PSG.

The only remote way I see them selling to us, is if we play slightly more than what they're currently willing to accept (doubtful) or we can sell them a player they hold an interest in (praying they still like Townsend)

I don't think Arsenal want him for 25m, but if ManU bow out Southampton will be running out of auction options fast on a player who's contract is running down and needs to be offed this summer if he does;'t sign a contract. I reckon if ManU don't buy him then he'll end up at Arsenal and for a price that could piss us off a bit.
 

JonnySpurs

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Well well.....I think this changes things.

City are buying Delph for CM cos he's cheap-ish and will add to HG quota. They won't be in for Morgan.

Arse won't pay fee imo.

I think we're now front runners in the prem. PSG could rival us from France though I agree on that front.
 

millsey

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I think saints will take 25 million for him and I think he's worth it. He can play the next 5 years for us as our main CM and we can go places with him. With him and Toby in we will be so so so much harder to beat next year
 

Mr Pink

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I don't think Arsenal want him for 25m, but if ManU bow out Southampton will be running out of auction options fast on a player who's contract is running down and needs to be offed this summer if he does;'t sign a contract. I reckon if ManU don't buy him then he'll end up at Arsenal and for a price that could piss us off a bit.

I just think when Wenger decides he's not wanting, there's no changing his mind. Southampton would still be asking for top whack and I just think Coquelin did too well for them last year for Wenger to decide to splurge out.

I still think we might have a slight chance.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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It does seem like the club is waiting to see how if the MS deal to Man U happens before making a move for a CM. I still don't think we'll end up signing him but it's sensible that we're waiting to see how this pans out first.
 

yankspurs

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I still think Utd will go for him even if this Schweinsteiger thing happens. If they dont, I hope Levy puts in a serious bid.
 

carpediem991

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If there is a real chance now pay the 25m pounds and take him, if not Arsenal will take him no doubt about that. I think we have to act quickly now. There could be a real chance to get a no. 1 target and instead of signing three 8m pound players man up and go for it. He is the perfect solution. Knows Poch, his system, can protect the back four, played succesfully with TA....
 

Bus-Conductor

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But's that just it. Why do fans care if its 18 million or 25 million. If it transformed our team and made a significant difference would they be crying that we overspent if we were reflecting on a great season and it was very evident he made a big difference to the team?

And, furthermore, if Levy/and Poch thinks it doable and worth it, is that not the most important thing? Let them worry about whether we can do the deal or not. Selling a couple of players to help finance the deal who have actually contributed very little etc.

I always believe its about stepping back and seeing the bigger picture.

This is all moot and hypothetical because its not going to happen though, but just wanted to rationalize it.


Because as fans we understand the ramifications for our club of continually pissing large tranches of money away. The "if" in the underlined sentence is the biggest if in football's financial world and it's the "if" that is way more often he ruin than the making of football chairman and their clubs.

It's not just 25m it's 16-21m in wages too (80k x 4/5yr). As a footballer I like the fella, I'm not saying I think we should or shouldn't, could or couldn't, I haven't got a fucking clue whether it's financially viable, but what I do trust is Levy to make the right call, far more than I trust any manager to turn "if" into reality.
 

carpediem991

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I still think Utd will go for him even if this Schweinsteiger thing happens. If they dont, I hope Levy puts in a serious bid.

They still have Herrera, Carrick, Blind and have other gaps to fill like CB, ST and maybe GK: Can't imagine they go for both.
 

YidNick

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What's the betting United will buy him anyway, even if they do land schweinsteiger :shifty:
 

ilikeost

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We must have a really got shot at Schneiderlin now if United got Schweinsteiger. And this thread is 100 pages long now so I guess it's official?
 

Bus-Conductor

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I just think when Wenger decides he's not wanting, there's no changing his mind. Southampton would still be asking for top whack and I just think Coquelin did too well for them last year for Wenger to decide to splurge out.

I still think we might have a slight chance.


The only chance we have is if no CL club is willing to get near our offer and/or our wages. Personally I reckon it's not so much about money with MS, I think he genuinely would love to just better himself (within reason - no decent CL club is going to make him to shabby an offer) so even if a CL club was offering 15m and 70k and we offered 20m and 80k it wouldn't surprise me if he dug his heels in and demanded the CL move.
 

Mr Pink

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Because as fans we understand the ramifications for our club of continually pissing large tranches of money away. The "if" in the underlined sentence is the biggest if in football's financial world and it's the "if" that is way more often he ruin than the making of football chairman and their clubs.

It's not just 25m it's 16-21m in wages too (80k x 4/5yr). As a footballer I like the fella, I'm not saying I think we should or shouldn't, could or couldn't, I haven't got a fucking clue whether it's financially viable, but what I do trust is Levy to make the right call, far more than I trust any manager to turn "if" into reality.

I get all that BC but my point is we should trust the judgement of Levy to do the deal within safe parameters. If he thinks its just too much I accept that.

But if he thinks a deal can be done and is worth doing on the basis of what the management are saying, my point is why would people complain over a disparity in any potential fee when this is a signing that could be instrumental for many reasons, above all the manager having complete faith and confidence in the player to come in and do what's expected.

As opposed to spending the money on two players down a list of targets that we're nowhere near as confident about.

I think Levy is streamlining fhe squad now, and that's why I think MS is worth it. Bring more youth through and use them, and add proper quality where needed - MS is most definitely this, and much less squad fillers which just bloat out the squad and detract from its overall quality.
 
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