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If we are looking at other architects could we try Zaha Hadid? The Japanese national stadium is gorgeous.
Looks like one of those sac things you see amongst the seaweed!!!
If we are looking at other architects could we try Zaha Hadid? The Japanese national stadium is gorgeous.
Anyone remember the Flight of the Navigator.If we are looking at other architects could we try Zaha Hadid? The Japanese national stadium is gorgeous.
Looks like one of those sac things you see amongst the seaweed!!!
Looks like a cycle helmet to me!If we are looking at other architects could we try Zaha Hadid? The Japanese national stadium is gorgeous.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/mayor/mayors-25m-rail-sweetener-8645571.html?origin=internalSearch
Mayor’s £25m rail 'sweetener'
05 June 2013
Boris Johnson has announced £25 million for improvements to the West Anglian rail line, amid claims that the cash is a “sweetener” to help persuade ministers to back his bid to take over the franchise.
The Mayor said the cash would help provide extra services at Northumberland Park and Tottenham Hale and improve links to London, but there were suggestions that the money would show how committed he was to the West Anglian routes.
Mr Johnson has admitted that negotiations with the Department for Transport to take over suburban routes have not been going well.
Green London Assembly member Darren Johnson said: “I know Boris has been having a hard time negotiating so probably this is an attempt at a sweetener.”
Looks like some funding to benefit NDP transport issues....
It's a giant robot...Looks like a cycle helmet to me!
Looks like a cycle helmet to me!
If we are looking at other architects could we try Zaha Hadid? The Japanese national stadium is gorgeous.
Over on skscrapercity the guy from kss confirmed that they had revised the capacity of the stadium up to 61k before populous were brought in. Sorry cant quote as i'm on my phone. But it looks like we're going large :-D.
Over on skscrapercity the guy from kss confirmed that they had revised the capacity of the stadium up to 61k before populous were brought in. Sorry cant quote as i'm on my phone. But it looks like we're going large :-D.
I agree, especially as we had revised the design to achieve 61,000. Difficult to accept when we have put so much effort into designing a stadium which, as a Spurs fan, i thought reflected the best of our heritage!
here is the quote:
Reply from KSS to an email
See, this is what's puzzling me. Are we now going to have somebody else do a completely new/different stadium design? If so, would that not affect the planning application? Also, how much would we have spent (and ultimately wasted, I guess?) on the designs for the NDP, that we've all grown to love?
I cannot see a complete stadium re-design as that would mean tearing up all the work that KSS - and Levy and the internal Spurs team - have spent millions of hours developing at a cost of tens of millions.
Any completely new stadium design would take milliions of pounds.
It would, as you say., also require a new planning application - and although Harringay are much more on side than they ever have been (and the NPD is now just a smaller part of the Tottenham redevelopment) so it should be a faster process to get changes agreed than ever before....but a brand new stadium design would take time.
Populous is probably the world leader in stadium design, so I don't buy the argument that they will be dramatically slashing the costs by reducing the quality of the product (and in January Daniel Levy wrote in the Chairman's statement accompanying the Annual report that "We intend to deliver this (the stadium) to the same high standards of the new training centre and to reward our incredibly loyal supporters with a world class stadium" - and that everyone agrees is a phenominal quality product with almost no expense spared )
I have been very keenly watching moves on the stadium access (both the stadium way and transport links) as that has clearly been one of the constraints on stadium capacity - and its clear that both srtadium access and transport links are being improved as part of the wider regeneration of Toteenham.
I wonder iof the change from KSS to Populous is simply that most of the contractors in the proposed tender felt it would be easier to work with the world leader in stadium design (Populous) who will know the best ways to slightly increase stadium capacity and otherwise tweak the overall design, msaybe slightly reducing costs without reducing quality. In other words the change is the precurser to the cionstruction going out to tender.
Thanks Spursidol. I was hoping you'd be one of the people to respond to my post (you seem to be the most active & hprovide the most info on this particular topic). You pretty much confirm what I was thinking, ie the fact that it would have cost vast amounts of money to get the original designs etc. Though I guess we've, sort of, still wasted lots of money (millions?) because we've basically paid the KSS to give us something that is ultimately not going to be used?
Is it 'confirmed' that Populous are now taking over the project? Sorry for the questions, I just remember info on here that suggested that KSS is still a possibility, ie 'Plan B'..
I've seen emails from people who seem to be working for KSS confirming that their work has now come to an end and that Populous has been engaged - but nothing official from anybody.
I cannot see the KSS design being completely trashed, but I can see it being refined (and KSS will already have had to do many many refinements to their plans to get to this stage), but for what is unclear - if KSS have got the capacity to 61,000 I';m not sure if a 70,000 stadium could be filled week in week out so a 65,000 stadium might be the largest that Spurs might want to go with. The cost reduction argument ? - no, costs may be tweaked - Spurs will not risk getting a cheap ugly stadium, Levy will want it to stand with the best in the UK, which in turn will make it more appealinmg to a corporate naming rights sponsor (if you are sponsoring it fir £15m pa do you want an iconic stadium or a cheap one associated with youyr name ?)
I wonder if at the end of the day its that from all points of view, Levy, building cintractors, naming rights sponsor etc everyone felt more comfortable with the architect being named as the world leader in stadium design - so they have taken over the project for the final tweaks ?
If there is a definite reason for KSS being changed out, I suspect it will surface at some time, but right now nobody seems to be able to put forward any suggestions that can take any level of scrutiny.