New Stadium Details And Discussions

[berranet]

By later this year, they mean by the weekend right?

Spurs have announced they have reached a private deal with Archway that will allow them to take over the land next year.

Say some papers..

 

[Lilbaz]

I wouldn't be so 'churlish' as to mark down your post with a disagree also, but that article you point me to states no stadium with a capacity of less than 60k has been chosen since 2006. As it happens the stadium in Turin qualifies for the criteria with a capacity of 30k, and the Wiki you've just shown me says just 8K for a cat 4.

I've also just read that Platini now wants every stadium that hosts a final to now have a minimum of 70k.

Obviously my secondhand 'found' info was also incorrect when I posted it and for which I offer the humblest apologies

So what do you disagree with then, the amount of spectators as your info is also incorrect, the fact we may get into a 'stadium war' or that we should build a stadium that's appropriate and considered for Spurs? Just curious.

You do realise that a disagree rating isn't negative. It just states that I disagree as I had different information.
You can disagree with my post it's ok. Fill your boots. I wont cry. I certainly wont think it churlish, i would just understand that you disagreed.

Here read this and tell me what is right.

http://www.uefa.org/MultimediaFiles...ions/General/01/74/38/69/1743869_DOWNLOAD.pdf

 

[mpickard2087]

Our intention is to move the already consented car parking into the basement level, alongside plant and furniture storage, in order to allow us to free up space at the ground floor level to be allocated to other operational requirements including enhanced media facilities and extended player changing areas.

What are we all thinking about this bit... I cant imagine that top notch changing rooms and a media centre wasn't already planned for... NFL is the immediate thought, but would that just putting in place the facilities in case that venture ever did come about in the future?

 

[Hoopspur]

You do realise that a disagree rating isn't negative. It just states that I disagree as I had different information.
You can disagree with my post it's ok. Fill your boots. I wont cry. I certainly wont think it churlish, i would just understand that you disagreed.

Here read this and tell me what is right.

http://www.uefa.org/MultimediaFiles...ions/General/01/74/38/69/1743869_DOWNLOAD.pdf

Erm, me actually - have you actually read this? Where does it mention capacities? It's a UEFA written document telling us about how a stadium should be conceived and designed including the criteria in order to maximise experience. The most important thing that they do stress though is that it should be appropriate to the club, community, location and be 'buzzing' and that there should not be swathes of empty seat. Nowhere does it mention capacities (having skimmed through it) and what UEFA requires from these stadia.

You disagreed with my point about 63K, which I took from elsewhere, and I hold my hands up to that but in turn come back to me with some other figure which is equally (no, even more so) inaccurate, then start mentioning Categories, which I've already answered, and then chose to fire this at me. It's the sort of thing I've written for many an organisation myself as it happens.

All along I've said that we should be designing and building something that is appropriate to THFC and not getting into some type of cock measuring contest with those next door, which was the whole point of my post in reality. Simples. You disagree?

 

[parj]

Having been on a few tours of Wembley stadium, the changing room changes could mean the venue can accommodate NFL. Wembley uses 4 changing rooms when NFL is in town as well as spilling into common spaces.

Parking below the stadium would be a massive bonus.

 

[yankspurs]

So we're taking over the land later this year. Assuming this means sometime during the 4th quarter, then we'll demolish the site.We also need to get this minor changes application approved and then we will have to submit an application for a major change to the design and capacity as well. If all goes well, hopefully we get both applications approved in a timely manner.

I doubt we'll be starting any development on the soil/piling on the archway site until sometime in the 1st quarter of 2016. I think my assumptive 19/20 season move in date continues to look more likely.

 

[miamispur]

So we're taking over the land later this year. Assuming this means sometime during the 4th quarter, then we'll demolish the site.We also need to get this minor changes application approved and then we will have to submit an application for a major change to the design and capacity as well. If all goes well, hopefully we get both applications approved in a timely manner.

I doubt we'll be starting any development on the soil/piling on the archway site until sometime in the 1st quarter of 2016. I think my assumptive 19/20 season move in date continues to look more likely.

no development or piling required other than demolishing the Archway buildings as they will sit plum in the center circle. We could technically build the whole stadium around their "former" property

 

[Spursidol]

So we're taking over the land later this year. Assuming this means sometime during the 4th quarter, then we'll demolish the site.We also need to get this minor changes application approved and then we will have to submit an application for a major change to the design and capacity as well. If all goes well, hopefully we get both applications approved in a timely manner.

I doubt we'll be starting any development on the soil/piling on the archway site until sometime in the 1st quarter of 2016. I think my assumptive 19/20 season move in date continues to look more likely.

Archway site needs demolishing....undersoil stuff and then turfing. Diddley squat work in the grand scheme of things

 

[philip]

As we've planning on adding a basement level for parking etc, presumably we have to dig down far deeper so we can't have done piling yet.

 

[Dinghy]

As we've planning on adding a basement level for parking etc, presumably we have to dig down far deeper so we can't have done piling yet.

I'm no surveyor but I would imagine that the depth will not need to be changed just for a basement... The pilings go down far enough to find solid (enough) ground. Digging out a basement alongside the pilings shouldn't make any difference to how deep the solid ground is....

But I am happy to be told different.

 

[Spursidol]

I'm no surveyor but I would imagine that the depth will not need to be changed just for a basement... The pilings go down far enough to find solid (enough) ground. Digging out a basement alongside the pilings shouldn't make any difference to how deep the solid ground is....

But I am happy to be told different.

Or even maybe that the original piling was designed to be deep enough to deal with accomodating a basement - the decision to build the basement wasn't taken today, could easily have been taken 6 months ago for example, especially if the rumour that its to accomodate bigger NFL player & cheerleader changing rooms on the surface is true.

 

[Achap]

As we've planning on adding a basement level for parking etc, presumably we have to dig down far deeper so we can't have done piling yet.

I can't believe that anyone is planning a new Basement at this late stage – particularly as I know that there were difficulties with water-level in the original non-podium design.

It read to me as a pre-existing (planned) Basement Level, because the Project Update says “alongside plant and furniture storage”. In other words, parking will be incorporated into spare space in the area currently set aside for plant and furniture storage. No?

 

[Lilbaz]

I can't believe that anyone is planning a new Basement at this late stage – particularly as I know that there were difficulties with water-level in the original non-podium design.

It read to me as a pre-existing (planned) Basement Level, because the Project Update says “alongside plant and furniture storage”. In other words, parking will be incorporated into spare space in the area currently set aside for plant and furniture storage. No?

and will shortly submit, to Haringey Council, an application for a minor material amendment to our planning permission for consent for a basement level on the new stadium site.

Our intention is to move the already consented car parking into the basement level, alongside plant and furniture storage, in order to allow us to free up space at the ground floor level to be allocated to other operational requirements including enhanced media facilities and extended player changing areas.

Sounds like a new level to me. Where they will put the carpark/plant rooms and furniture storage. If it was pre-existing why would they need consent for it?

Also interesting that they need the space for a bigger players dressing rooms. People already linking the need to a possible NFL link. I'm sure that KSS would have designed a perfectly good changing room. Interesting.

 

[Booney]

if the rumour that its to accomodate bigger NFL player & cheerleader changing rooms on the surface is true.

And to think some cynics were suggesting Levy was just doing this for the money. Now we see the grand plan unfold.

 

[Lilbaz]

And to think some cynics were suggesting Levy was just doing this for the money. Now we see the grand plan unfold.

Whats the odds his office backs on to the showers?

 

[shelfmonkey]

I don't know... I think that this...

suggests that the capacity will be increased...

Safe standing terrace?!!!

 

[sweetness]

And to think some cynics were suggesting Levy was just doing this for the money. Now we see the grand plan unfold.

Save the cheerleader save the world.

 

[longtimespur]

little bit more from Daniel Levi in the International business Times I've copied the extra, to me anyway, quote from DL.


http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/tottenham-reach-crucial-new-stadium-agreement-metal-company-1494542?


Upon the announcement of the private agreement between Tottenham and Archway, chairman Daniel Levy said: "Our commitment is to find the best solution for the Club, our supporters and our community. It will be our new home for many years to come and we want it to be world class.

"We are aware that both our fans and the local community are eager to see the stadium delivered as soon as possible and we shall be working to do so.

"I must however urge patience in the interests of getting the best possible outcome for all and ensuring that we progress diligently. It is a hugely complex and large-scale project."

 

[THFCSPURS19]

little bit more from Daniel Levi in the International business Times I've copied the extra, to me anyway, quote from DL.


http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/tottenham-reach-crucial-new-stadium-agreement-metal-company-1494542?


Upon the announcement of the private agreement between Tottenham and Archway, chairman Daniel Levy said: "Our commitment is to find the best solution for the Club, our supporters and our community. It will be our new home for many years to come and we want it to be world class.

"We are aware that both our fans and the local community are eager to see the stadium delivered as soon as possible and we shall be working to do so.

"I must however urge patience in the interests of getting the best possible outcome for all and ensuring that we progress diligently. It is a hugely complex and large-scale project."

I'm pretty sure those are the exact same quotes that were in the update yesterday.

 

[longtimespur]

I'm pretty sure those are the exact same quotes that were in the update yesterday.

Yes I'd seen the first ones but don't remember the ones I quoted. Might be my age though so I'll go and check the OS.



Edited.........Yep you're right