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bceej

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Well at least there's a plan now.
Hopefully we can start working on targets now rather than later then! I guess this is a Levy and Paratici decision with the understanding Paratici may or may not be with us next season either?
 

spurs9

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I'd take Enrique....has that top level e experience and will get us playing on the front foot.

Will command big respect from the players as well, and I'm sure they'll welcome a change in philosophy after Mourinho and Conte.

Di Zerbi looks great but Brighton are that well set up it's hard to know how much of their success is down to their impressive structure.
You could say the same about Enrique, when he took over Barcelona, they were one of the best sided in the world already, with Messi, Suarez Neymar, Iniesta, Busquets to name a few. He also did a poor job at Roma and although he did a good job at Celta, his successor did an even better job.

De Zerbi has also done a good job at Sassuolo, who don't have a good set up like Brighton.

Personally, I'm not convinced by either.
 

spurs9

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Yeah agree regarding Enrique. I think he’d have a fair bit of pulling power in regards to new players coming in as well
More pulling power than Conte? I doubt it. Anyway, pulling power has never been an issue in recent years, its willingness to stump up for the fee that is our problem.
 

Hotspur33

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You could say the same about Enrique, when he took over Barcelona, they were one of the best sided in the world already, with Messi, Suarez Neymar, Iniesta, Busquets to name a few. He also did a poor job at Roma and although he did a good job at Celta, his successor did an even better job.

De Zerbi has also done a good job at Sassuolo, who don't have a good set up like Brighton.

Personally, I'm not convinced by either.
Yeah, I wouldn’t be too enthused by Enrique or De Zerbi
 

H-SF

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Yeah, I wouldn’t be too enthused by Enrique or De Zerbi
are you kidding me? Those are two of our best options and De Zerbi is one of the best emerging coaches in the world. His super aggressive press and the way he coaches buildup is mesmerising. Listen to the way Guardiola talks about him if you don't believe me lol. De Zerbi will be a super coach and we will be lucky to get him.
 

Hotspur33

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I was not in the Poch camp though saw some clips of us on YouTube from his tenure and seeing Poch and the passion bought back good memories.
The love he had for us has not been matched by any manager since.
I was concerned that IF it was going to be Poch, then the decision would have been made quite quickly.
So IF they have made their mind up, I’d say there is a good chance it could be Poch.
A long drawn out search almost rules him out
 

Bing

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Enrique could be helpful in tempting Raya and Laporte in summer and he plays attacking football.....thats's good enough for me..I honestly think we are at the stage now of just cycling through managers until one fits....we've had Poch, Mournho and Conte and could'nt win anything...just have to keep messing with the formula now..

I still want Conte to stay for what it's worth.
 

Hotspur33

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are you kidding me? Those are two of our best options and De Zerbi is one of the best emerging coaches in the world. His super aggressive press and the way he coaches buildup is mesmerising. Listen to the way Guardiola talks about him if you don't believe me lol. De Zerbi will be a super coach and we will be lucky to get him.
Just my opinion
 

eppingyid

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More pulling power than Conte? I doubt it. Anyway, pulling power has never been an issue in recent years, its willingness to stump up for the fee that is our problem.
No, not more than conte but just in general.
like you say it’s whether the club want to pay the big fees and wages that will ultimately decides who comes in or not
 

Mr Pink

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You could say the same about Enrique, when he took over Barcelona, they were one of the best sided in the world already, with Messi, Suarez Neymar, Iniesta, Busquets to name a few. He also did a poor job at Roma and although he did a good job at Celta, his successor did an even better job.

De Zerbi has also done a good job at Sassuolo, who don't have a good set up like Brighton.

Personally, I'm not convinced by either.

Yeah was aware of most of that, just a feeling that he might be a good fit for us because he'll attempt more progressive football
 

Ghost Hardware

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You could say the same about Enrique, when he took over Barcelona, they were one of the best sided in the world already, with Messi, Suarez Neymar, Iniesta, Busquets to name a few. He also did a poor job at Roma and although he did a good job at Celta, his successor did an even better job.

De Zerbi has also done a good job at Sassuolo, who don't have a good set up like Brighton.

Personally, I'm not convinced by either.
Agree completely, and when the transfer quality dipped in the third season so did the performances. I’d be very nervous about bringing him in unless we knew for a fact Paratici was staying. I’m not at all convinced he could actually build a team here. And we shouldn’t loose track of the fact we still need a lot of building especially if we are changing system.

That being said I can’t help but going for Di Zerbi at this point strikes me as rather reactionary. I really feel looking at his time at Brighton doesn’t really do us any favours. He essentially slipped into a well set up system and adjusted what was there. As you say I think his time at Sassuolo speaks more about him than his time at here. Like you say he did do well for them but I’m not convinced he is the answer right now.

There are certainly others I’d like less but neither I would be overly happy with considering where we currently are as a club.
 

Mr Pink

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Agree completely, and when the transfer quality dipped in the third season so did the performances. I’d be very nervous about bringing him in unless we knew for a fact Paratici was staying. I’m not at all convinced he could actually build a team here. And we shouldn’t loose track of the fact we still need a lot of building especially if we are changing system.

That being said I can’t help but going for Di Zerbi at this point strikes me as rather reactionary. I really feel looking at his time at Brighton doesn’t really do us any favours. He essentially slipped into a well set up system and adjusted what was there. As you say I think his time at Sassuolo speaks more about him than his time at here. Like you say he did do well for them but I’m not convinced he is the answer right now.

There are certainly others I’d like less but neither I would be overly happy with considering where we currently are as a club.

Who would you be happy with?
 

beats1

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As someone said on the extra inch podcast

Poch was ahead of the curve with regards to pressing and struggled against teams that pressed

But the whole league are pressing now and are doing more than just pressing and are more advanced tactically

Its a worry that this may not translate well again. Also Dembele was key to Poch's team do well as he was the only one who could progress the ball and resist the press
 

spurs9

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Who would you be happy with?
Personally, Gallardo. He plays a progressive high press, pass and move system and he has won cups and the league with a team that is constantly dismantled of its best players. There incoming transfers have generally been poor too, so he has had to rely on the youth teams players, so basically won at a club that is chaos.
 

spurs9

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As someone said on the extra inch podcast

Poch was ahead of the curve with regards to pressing and struggled against teams that pressed

But the whole league are pressing now and are doing more than just pressing and are more advanced tactically

Its a worry that this may not translate well again. Also Dembele was key to Poch's team do well as he was the only one who could progress the ball and resist the press
I think we struggled with teams that pressed due to personnel rather than tactics.
 

tony0379

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Personally, Gallardo. He plays a progressive high press, pass and move system and he has won cups and the league with a team that is constantly dismantled of its best players. There incoming transfers have generally been poor too, so he has had to rely on the youth teams players, so basically won at a club that is chaos.
But doesn't speak a word of English
 

theShiznit

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As someone said on the extra inch podcast

Poch was ahead of the curve with regards to pressing and struggled against teams that pressed

But the whole league are pressing now and are doing more than just pressing and are more advanced tactically

Its a worry that this may not translate well again. Also Dembele was key to Poch's team do well as he was the only one who could progress the ball and resist the press
I'd like to think that a coach that has had several months out of the game would have looked at other approaches and methods and seen areas where his coaching can improve since last here....

Poch strikes me as a thoughtful guy.
 
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