Next Manager Watch

[spursfan77]

Levy will never keep his nose out of the footballing side, never.

That's the single most important problem.

It was obvious from the start.

 

[punkisback]

I'll admit I've never watched that Atalanta side, and I do know Conte's Chelsea played some decent football from time to time, but I think the tactic has been found out in the modern game......the system is so reliant on the wing backs. Once that threat is shut down you're usually overrun in the midfield and nothing gets to the forwards.

It’s one dimensional. That is the sole focus of supply, with 2 players on each wing in a full back and Wing Forward you make yourself less predictable.

 

[Mr Pink]

As much as this is true pretty much every owner in world football is the same. Fans are naive if they think Levy is the only owner who acts in this way.

I think the extent of such would vary considerably to be honest.

Of course all owners will be hugely in control of what is going on regarding finances for incomings etc

But I'm willing to bet they're not all promising one thing at the outset and then manipulating the goal posts on down the line.

What's naive is to believe Levy isn't guilty of this, way more so than most, because he's the real common denominator in our on going mess surrounding manager fall outs

 

[jolsnogross]

Exactly the same way a good manager is valuable and a crap one isn’t. Like any job there are those that are good and bad at it. One can’t write off the importance of a role just because in the past we have hired some that weren’t good at their job.

The role of DoF is invaluable and a staple in pretty much every top club around Europe. In fact I can’t think of many top teams that don’t have one. And considering who our chairman is it is a role we need. No we shouldn’t just employ anyone but we shouldn’t just employ any old manager ether. I don’t see the argument that there are bad DoF’s out there so we shouldn’t get a DoF as a valid one.

It's valid in the sense that you can operate a successful club without one, which is not the case for a manager. The role was invented relatively recently. The great managers throughout history haven't operated 'under' a DoF.

I'm agnostic enough about whether we should have one. I could see one being helpful, but in our club's history it appears to be another cook in the kitchen that dilutes responsibility for making sound decisions, and is often a source of contention.

 

[Trix]

There is also a reason Levy has had to get involved again, because our Sporting Director isn’t actually doing his job and is under investigation with a likely ban coming.

Paratici’s player ID in some cases does seem good but unfortunately he’s pretty much incompetent and off the ball in most other areas.

That's utter rubbish mate, he's got involved because that's what he does. Paratici wasn't sanctioned when he jumped in feet first over Spence, and FP is only sanctioned in Italy. As for him being incompetent, could you explain what your evidence is for this during his time here? Imo he's been doing a very good job both in what we can see and more so behind the scenes. He has been a big part in the upturn of our youth teams for instance, and has brought in some very good players.

 

[DanielJohnCosta]

That's utter rubbish mate, he's got involved because that's what he does. Paratici wasn't sanctioned when he jumped in feet first over Spence, and FP is only sanctioned in Italy. As for him being incompetent, could you explain what your evidence is for this during his time here? Imo he's been doing a very good job both in what we can see and more so behind the scenes. He has been a big part in the upturn of our youth teams for instance, and has brought in some very good players.

didn't we have to veto Gattuso before nuno?

 

[TheDoc]

But if Poch performs the same as he did in his first season, hed be likely sacked on the back of it. That team wasn't significantly worse than our current team.

It's worth remembering that Poch started a League Cup Final in his first season with us with Bentaleb, Mason, Townsend and Chadli all on the starting line up. Rose and Walker weren't the players they were 2-3 years later either. Kane also wasn't the finished article he is now.

My opinion is our current team/squad is significantly better, assuming Kane is here next season.

 

[nedley]

As much as this is true pretty much every owner in world football is the same. Fans are naive if they think Levy is the only owner who acts in this way.

Oh come on.

They'll be levels.

 

[aussiespursguy]

Is there a quality attacking based Argie DOF out there that may be looking for a new gig in a hip English capital city?
Asking for a friend.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

That's utter rubbish mate, he's got involved because that's what he does. Paratici wasn't sanctioned when he jumped in feet first over Spence, and FP is only sanctioned in Italy. As for him being incompetent, could you explain what your evidence is for this during his time here? Imo he's been doing a very good job both in what we can see and more so behind the scenes. He has been a big part in the upturn of our youth teams for instance, and has brought in some very good players.

There is a lot more to it than that. The incoming ban should tell you a lot about him though.

I’m not defending Levy, his lack of vision and knowledge on the football side is hindering us and his appointments haven’t had the required due diligence.

 

[Gpnash84]

The only two options I think are truly viable are Poch or De Zerbi. For all the never go back views, I actually see Poch as a much more pragmatic appointment. Poch, unlike a Tuchel or Enrique knows what the club is about and is still willing to take it on and he’s already proven he can clear the decks as far as phasing out players not willing to work for the team historically. If the club is as rotten as our ITK suggests it’s going to need someone who knows whats coming down the track and can take the long view. Tuchel is not interested in a project, he’s very similar to Conte and all the other candidates just seem a huge risk within no Prem experience, although Gallardo would be the bold choice. De Zerbi looks like an innovator and has that young and out to prove himself energy that Poch had, so I could definitely see why the club would explore that possibility.

 

[ernest_lowrider]

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

I think the extent of such would vary considerably to be honest.

Of course all owners will be hugely in control of what is going on regarding finances for incomings etc

But I'm willing to bet they're not all promising one thing at the outset and then manipulating the goal posts on down the line.

What's naive is to believe Levy isn't guilty of this, way more so than most, because he's the real common denominator in our on going mess surrounding manager fall outs

Of course he has to shoulder some blame but we really don't know the disparity to what is promised and then delivered. It is an easy get out clause for managers to shift blame onto the ownership when things don't work out. Similarly the other way around, and I would even include players in that as well.

In this case Conte has been backed more than any spurs manager under ENIC so he really has to accept some blame for our failures this season. He's pretty much had a whole new team built for him. Yes he didn't get a centre back but the players he has are hardly league one quality - lenglet was winning titles at Barcelona not that long ago, and Romero is a recent world cup winner.

 

[GMI]

What’s Harry up to these days?

Waiting out his contract to sign for Utd….

 

[For the love of Spurs]

That's utter rubbish mate, he's got involved because that's what he does. Paratici wasn't sanctioned when he jumped in feet first over Spence, and FP is only sanctioned in Italy. As for him being incompetent, could you explain what your evidence is for this during his time here? Imo he's been doing a very good job both in what we can see and more so behind the scenes. He has been a big part in the upturn of our youth teams for instance, and has brought in some very good players.

My question with Paratici is his managerial choices seem well odd. Unless I am mistaken we where going for Fonseca then he came in but he didn’t want him and we ended up with Nuno. Is his vision aligned with the fans, for an attacking progressive manager long term becuase the impression is he wants more defensive football but that is only an impression it might be wrong.

In regard to the player purchases he seems to be doing very well, can’t complain at all.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

My question with Paratici is his managerial choices seem well odd. Unless I am mistaken we where going for Fonseca then he came in but he didn’t want him and we ended up with Nuno. Is his vision aligned with the fans, for an attacking progressive manager long term becuase the impression is he wants more defensive football but that is only an impression it might be wrong.

In regard to the player purchases he seems to be doing very well, can’t complain at all.

Agree, Paratici being involved in our next manager hire is a big concern.

 

[Viking78]

That's utter rubbish mate, he's got involved because that's what he does. Paratici wasn't sanctioned when he jumped in feet first over Spence, and FP is only sanctioned in Italy. As for him being incompetent, could you explain what your evidence is for this during his time here? Imo he's been doing a very good job both in what we can see and more so behind the scenes. He has been a big part in the upturn of our youth teams for instance, and has brought in some very good players.

The U21s are currently 12 out of 14.
Women's team also just sacked their coach after something like 9 straight defeats. Dean Rastrick, the academy head, is off. It doesn't look that rosey. At least U18s are currently 4th, but even they are way behind Hammers.
U21s are somewhat hard to gauge as there have been reports Conte likes to take their players last minute so they then miss u21 matches or are fatigued.
It does look like there is a lot of work to do across all the teams.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

It was obvious from the start.

And still people think a DOF will change things. Still!

 

[ReadieSpur]

Did anyone else just hear Arry on talksport? He's definitely after the Job.

He just conveniently called up to say that it would be hard to say no if anyone called him up to manage.

He thinks that him working with a young guy like Ryan Mason would be good. He also kind of defended the board and said that we have spent money and talked up the squad.

 

[parklane yid]

This constant outrage towards the owners is ridiculous! I really do wonder how people find happiness in their life constantly being angry.