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TPdYID

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Dele Alli mk11 sadly.
I didn’t see Alli score 2 (and Captain) for his national team last week.

Son is chronically out of form, that’s all. Stop digging for something that’s not buried.

Richarlison, Bissouma, Kulusevski have all been off-form this season? Does that mean we’ve got a team of Alli’s?

🎶 We all dream of a team of Robbie Keanes 🎶 (sorry couldn’t help myself)

EDIT: I appreciate my reply is off-topic. Sorry - I felt it needed addressing.
 

Meercat

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David Conn or Matt Dickinson could be likely suspects based on those descriptions - although not sure how their voices would be recognisable unless you've heard them on podcasts.
Looked like it could have been either of those, haha. It was a fleeting glimpse, but you may have nailed it with Matt…
 

spurs9

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The thing with Son is I think right now he's one of the worst players in the league without the ball Doesn't press, doesn't cut off passing lanes, and certainly isn't interested in contesting 50/50's. So when he's doing fuck all when we've got possession it's pointless having him on the pitch. Whether it's confidence, fatigue or a number of other factors it could be, he doesn't deserve to play right now.
I agree, doesn't mean you sell him though.
 

max cady

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The squad is horribly unbalanced and too many just aren’t good enough for a team challenging for the top four.

We severely lack technicians and creative footballers and we also lack energy, pace and legs.

Agree, we’ve not been a well coached team from an attacking / possession based perspective, but the squad still needs major surgery in my opinion.

We need a new first choice keeper, at least two new CB’s, another LWB on top of Udogie, a back up for Bentancur (someone who can create from deep and progress the ball through the thirds), a CAM (Maddison would be ideal), a LWF and cover at RWF and a Kane replacement.

From the current squad

Regular starters

Porro
Royal
Romero
Udogie
Bissouma
Bentancur
Kulusevski
Kane (he’ll leave if he has any sense)
Richarlison

Squad Rotation

Davies
Sarr
Gil
Reguillon
Forster
Son
Sell / Release

Lloris
Dier
Perisic
Sessegnon
Sanchez
Tanganga
Lenglet
Hojbjerg
Son
Winks
Ndombele
Lo Celso
Moura
Changed it slightly
 

jonnboy

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A bit of uselessness… So, yesterday the wife and I were in Punjab on Neal Street and on the table across from us were a group of blokes doing that thing when they talk loudly about stuff… quickly became obvious they were sports journalists, but hard to tell who… so, conversation is all about managers and sackings, and one said, “So mate, given your position, you must be hearing gossip about the new man at Spurs?” And this other guy says “Nothing. The club is locked up tight. Not hearing a thing. Nothing leaking out. It’s weird, normally you’d hear something… but not this time…” as we were leaving, I tried to get a glimpse of speaker, but while I recognized the voice. I couldn’t place him. Bald, looks a bit like Tim Vine… the only interesting bit was five journos complaining they are hearing nothing.
How was the restaurant been looking to go .
 

Super_spurs25

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As soon as Nagelsmann became available, he was the obvious standout manager for me. But the longer our manager search goes on, I think it's obvious he will go to them lot in W London.
I want a manager who actually cares about the club, not someone who's here just for a big payday, and thinks they're bigger than us, and we should feel privileged to have them.
I think Poch is the man who deserves another chance. Maybe I'm being blinded by how bad we are at the moment, but in all my years following this club (30 +), he was the man who made me feel more connected to the club than any previous manager. As a fan I enjoyed the football we played under him(especially the first 4 years).
I've never felt as disconnected to the club as I have these past few weeks/months. It's horrible to say but I didn't feel anything when we drew last night. In fact I think we all knew it was coming.
I wouldn't expect Poch/ any manager to come in and turn it around over night. We all know it's going to be a painful rebuild. But like I say, for me personally Poch deserves another chance.
 

Gpnash84

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Pochettino was a revelation in the mid-2010s when the PL was still adapting to pressing football and the various dynamics of build-up from the back. We had a once-in-a-lifetime gifted squad back then… and I credit Mauricio for developing them, but the profiles we had were incredible and gems before top clubs knew what to scout for.

Toby and Jan would be going for £60-70m today as their technical skill and versatility would be at a premium. Walker and Rose literally haven’t been matched as a fullback tandem in dynamism since then. Kane, Eriksen, Dembele are basically unicorns capable of doing multiple things at an all-time great level.

poch is responsible for the best times this club has had in 30 years. He is a very good man, a personal hero, a legend and I will always love him.

A miracle worker he is not. He never solved the ability to deal with deep blocks, he was never good with in-match tactical adjustments, and importantly as the incredible squad we had dwindled, so did our performances.

please do not force him to come manage this shower of shite. We need a full rebuild and the situation is too fresh to appoint him here and expect anything different. New ideas are the only thing that can save this football club.
I accept some of those criticisms of Poch but to just casually ignore the improvement in players under his tenure is criminal.

Jan- Was not even a nailed on starter the season before Poch arrives and playing awfully under Sherwood.

Walker- A player of potential but he could not defend and liable to constant errors.

Rose- Out on loan to Sunderland. Nobody envisioned him ever becoming a first team player

Dembele- Like Jan, was a technically gifted player but was far from being a superstar

Eriksen- No doubt a talent but disappeared too often and was too lightweight pre Poch.

To say he somehow landed on a ludicrously talented squad is demonstrably not true. Of course he was blessed with a generational talent in Kane but the improvement in the side was down to his coaching and the spirit he galvanised within the club. He has his faults but his sacking was a betrayal and travesty which the club had never healed from and I personally feel that whether he succeeds or fails he is owed the chance to carry on the work he should never have been removed from. He was owed a bad season given what he had achieved and Levy chose short-termism.
 

Russ1201

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I didn’t see Alli score 2 (and Captain) for his national team last week.

Son is chronically out of form, that’s all. Stop digging for something that’s not buried.

Richarlison, Bissouma, Kulusevski have all been off-form this season? Does that mean we’ve got a team of Alli’s?

🎶 We all dream of a team of Robbie Keanes 🎶 (sorry couldn’t help myself)

EDIT: I appreciate my reply is off-topic. Sorry - I felt it needed addressing.
I love Sonny and really hope he turns it around but i feel his modelling and away from football business is affe ting his game the same way Dele did. It's not a slur on Sonny's character.
 

the yid

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The thing with Son is I think right now he's one of the worst players in the league without the ball Doesn't press, doesn't cut off passing lanes, and certainly isn't interested in contesting 50/50's. So when he's doing fuck all when we've got possession it's pointless having him on the pitch. Whether it's confidence, fatigue or a number of other factors it could be, he doesn't deserve to play right now.
Luckily we have Danjuma we're refusing to play
 

RJR1949

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The thing with Son is I think right now he's one of the worst players in the league without the ball Doesn't press, doesn't cut off passing lanes, and certainly isn't interested in contesting 50/50's. So when he's doing fuck all when we've got possession it's pointless having him on the pitch. Whether it's confidence, fatigue or a number of other factors it could be, he doesn't deserve to play right now.
I’m no tactical expert but think that Son can’t play with Perisic. It can’t be coincidence that Son’s decline coincides with Perisic’s arrival.
 

KingNick

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I accept some of those criticisms of Poch but to just casually ignore the improvement in players under his tenure is criminal.

Jan- Was not even a nailed on starter the season before Poch arrives and playing awfully under Sherwood.

Walker- A player of potential but he could not defend and liable to constant errors.

Rose- Out on loan to Sunderland. Nobody envisioned him ever becoming a first team player

Dembele- Like Jan, was a technically gifted player but was far from being a superstar

Eriksen- No doubt a talent but disappeared too often and was too lightweight pre Poch.

To say he somehow landed on a ludicrously talented squad is demonstrably not true. Of course he was blessed with a generational talent in Kane but the improvement in the side was down to his coaching and the spirit he galvanised within the club. He has his faults but his sacking was a betrayal and travesty which the club had never healed from and I personally feel that whether he succeeds or fails he is owed the chance to carry on the work he should never have been removed from. He was owed a bad season given what he had achieved and Levy chose short-termism.

Do you think there is any club in the country that wouldn't sack a manger who had not won an away match in the league in 12 months?
 

Ghost Hardware

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I agree, doesn't mean you sell him though.
I love Son, he’s a fantastic player when in form which he very clearly isn’t atm. Im sort of on the fence when it comes to selling him tho. On the one hand he’s getting on a bit and this might be the last chance to get a larger fee for him, if that chance isn’t already gone, plus I really don’t know if he would work in a high pressing team at this point. Maybe, but I’m not completely convinced. If we got offered a large fee and could bring in someone elite or potentially elite to replace him I’d probably be okay with him going. On the other hand, I’m not sure we would be able to get someone of that caliber, no chance we are getting Kvaratskhelia, Chiesa, Leao etc, and as you have said, with the right manager maybe he will actually click back into form. I’m which case it would be madness to sell him as when he’s in form he’s world class.
 

RJR1949

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It's not just Conte, it's the whole damn lot of them including Conte.
It’s like one of those popular book series (“Lee Child”) where the author retires and they get someone to carry on the series but the new writer is mediocre so the books are on the same lines as before but just a bit crappier.

Levy should have bitten the bullet and given Mason the job.
 

sparx100

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I love Sonny and really hope he turns it around but i feel his modelling and away from football business is affe ting his game the same way Dele did. It's not a slur on Sonny's character.
It's nothing to do with his other projects. There are 3 things in my mind.

He is being asked to play more as a midfielder and is having to work in front of the defence rather than behind it. There is no player other than Kane who has the ability to play him in and as a consequence he is not getting as many chances

He has lost a little bit of the electric pace he once had.

He is still a top class finisher - one of the best in the league with either foot but he needs to adapt his game and the coaches need to determine what is needed to play to his strengths. He is genuinely one of the best finishers and has proved it for seasons.

That said, it doesn't guarantee him a start and certainly not at the moment imo.
 

easley91

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Whilst still finishing 4th and getting his sider to their first ever Champions League Final.
Poch was burnt out. The Champions League run masked the league form, which went right off a cliff second half of that season after the Burnley game. And that league form continued into the next one, which I believe ended with a home defeat to Sheffield United of all teams. The league form justified his sacking, even if it hurt to see him go.
 
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