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[fishhhandaricecake]

Mason is not the right person for the job right now. Regardless of how you put it or state he has spent big before it is a cheap option for Levy.

He wouldn't pay the release fee for Slot who was apparently the number 1 choice so what would you say that is?

Do we actually know that is the case though for sure buddy? A lot of this is guesswork.

But if so then yea in that case I would agree with you that Levy is cheaping out if we know for sure that Slot would’ve come and was attainable for a 15/20 mil fee, same for Naglesmann and Amorim etc.

What I was saying is that Levy has typically spend big on Manager wages for Jose and Conte but yes in terms of buying managers out of contracts, aside from Redknapp and possibly Juande Ramos? He’s rarely done that or spent big on it and that is a huge failing in his part and it’s probably meant we’ve missed out on some very good managerial targets.

It’s just difficult because none of us really know with absolute confidence all of this facts behind the scene, did Slot actually turn us down, same for Naglesmann for example, we’re we willing to pay the fees but it was a disagreement on control or transfer budgets or vision that was the issue etc, we don’t know

But I totally see your point mate

 

[MR_BEN]

I am not aware of this ever being a thing before. The coach is recruited because they have been checked out first. It doesn't always work but the idea of sitting down with Kane and going through a list of coaches is daft. At this stage of his career, he'll be off in the summer or next summer.

It’s not about letting Kane or anybody else make the choice, but getting their input would not be unusual.

You guys are a strange bunch. You all whinge that Levy is not a football man and shouldn’t be making these decisions, yet when it’s suggested that he discussed something this big - which the biggest ‘football men’ in the club, that this would be completely ludicrous.

Who better to know what kind of coach will get the best out of the players - than one of the best players we have ever had, who knows the squad inside out?

 

[ralphs bald spot]

Do we fuck. We look better than we did under stellini. Conte left with us in 4th, and was disappointed with the form that had us there. Mason has beaten palace and Leeds and done nothing else of note.

Conte left us in the lurch and cowardly walked away - his pathetic brand of football it was clear for all but the blind to see the position was false and the deck of cards was falling away as the side unravelled it was a disaster waiting to happen and one that he very much created

 

[Tonio]

No

Amazed this got a dislike.

 

[MR_BEN]

1 game a week next season would be ideal for Conte

Not in a million years. I’d be done with club football for ever if I had to endure another season of that crap.

 

[ntmac82]

Do we actually know that is the case though for sure buddy? A lot of this is guesswork.

But if so then yea in that case I would agree with you that Levy is cheaping out if we know for sure that Slot would’ve come and was attainable for a 15/20 mil fee, same for Naglesmann and Amorim etc.

What I was saying is that Levy has typically spend big on Manager wages for Jose and Conte but yes in terms of buying managers out of contracts, aside from Redknapp and possibly Juande Ramos? He’s rarely done that or spent big on it and that is a huge failing in his part and it’s probably meant we’ve missed out on some very good managerial targets.

It’s just difficult because none of us really know with absolute confidence all of this facts behind the scene, did Slot actually turn us down, same for Naglesmann for example, we’re we willing to pay the fees but it was a disagreement on control or transfer budgets or vision that was the issue etc, we don’t know

But I totally see your point mate

We don't know anything for a fact. Anything we hear or believe should always be taken with a pinch of salt.

He has paid managers a fortune before so I don't get the reasoning for not paying the release fee if Slot was the one. No way would Slot be demanding anywhere near what Jose or Conte would want and over the course of the contract surely it would still be cheaper to pay the release fee and the wages for Slot.

 

[septicsac]

It's day 63 in the Big Tottenham Hotspurs house and the inmates grow even more restless. New coaches are ruled out by the balding overlord and things may get worse when leading contender Ange rules himself out of the running to stay with a club where he is revered and won't be sacked after 6 months while trying to manage with one hand tied behind his back.
This could get very nasty before it ever gets better.o

 

[Metalhead]

It’s not about letting Kane or anybody else make the choice, but getting their input would not be unusual.

You guys are a strange bunch. You all whinge that Levy is not a football man and shouldn’t be making these decisions, yet when it’s suggested that he discussed something this big - which the biggest ‘football men’ in the club, that this would be completely ludicrous.

Who better to know what kind of coach will get the best out of the players - than one of the best players we have ever had, who knows the squad inside out?

My post was just responding to a post suggesting that Kane giving Levy a list of managers was not a bad idea. It's not really something that I want to bat back and forth on. It's only my opinion. I don't know why people get so worked up on here - my opinion means f*CK all like everyone elses on here.

 

[OPModric]

It would be pretty typical Levy to have a ten man list and then appoint someone else. Therefore I think Lopetegui is a possible taget and also one I welcome.

With Slot and De Zerbi not possible I think he is one of the best candidates after Nagelsmann and Gallardo.

 

[ntmac82]

It would be pretty typical Levy to have a ten man list and then appoint someone else. Therefore I think Lopetegui is a possible taget and also one I welcome.

With Slot and De Zerbi not possible I think he is one of the best candidates after Nagelsmann and Gallardo.

Didn't he want Lopetegui previously?

 

[Ghost Hardware]

It would be pretty typical Levy to have a ten man list and then appoint someone else. Therefore I think Lopetegui is a possible taget and also one I welcome.

With Slot and De Zerbi not possible I think he is one of the best candidates after Nagelsmann and Gallardo.

We talked to him in the past if i remember correctly so there was prior interest from us. He just didn’t want to leave Savilla at the time because he felt he owed them after the RM debacle. Not that he would have been our top choice. But that clearly doesn’t mean much as we were interested in Poch in the past and yet ignored him now.

 

[OPModric]

Didn't he want Lopetegui previously?

Yes.

Tottenham have failed with a "dizzying" offer to make Julen Lopetegui their new head coach, according to Sevilla president Jose Castro. (Sky Sports june 2021)

 

[Majick]

It would be pretty typical Levy to have a ten man list and then appoint someone else. Therefore I think Lopetegui is a possible taget and also one I welcome.

With Slot and De Zerbi not possible I think he is one of the best candidates after Nagelsmann and Gallardo.

I'm not making any judgments about Lopetegui, as such, but do we want to appoint a manager whose last match was losing 5-0 to Arsenal?

May just be seen a little bit on the nose for how the two clubs' fortunes have diverged over the last 12 months.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

I like you’ve brought up Carrick. He should definitely be considered before anyone even starts thinking about Mason. As should Kieran McKenna.
To be clear, they’d all be way down the list still behind most other names linked but I think they offer all the same things as Mason but with the advantage of meaningful management experience.

Carrick showed a lot a promise taking Boro from the relegation zone to at one stage having a great chance of going 2nd had they not lost. However, since then they went on a poor run of form and were abysmal in both play off legs, especially the 2nd leg which was at the Riverside. He made a number of rookie mistakes and couldn’t motivate his players. On paper Boro were the strongest of the 4 play off teams but they failed to turn up when it mattered. For me, I like Carrick but he as per Mason still have a lot of development to do before I would consider them a candidate.

 

[Oh Teddy Teddy]

I'm not making any judgments about Lopetegui, as such, but do we want to appoint a manager whose last match was losing 5-0 to Arsenal?

May just be seen a little bit on the nose for how the two clubs' fortunes have diverged over the last 12 months.

Id hope we’re not appointing/rejecting anyone based on a sole result with nothing riding on it. But, this board…

 

[KingNick]

Carrick showed a lot a promise taking Boro from the relegation zone to at one stage having a great chance of going 2nd had they not lost. However, since then they went on a poor run of form and were abysmal in both play off legs, especially the 2nd leg which was at the Riverside. He made a number of rookie mistakes and couldn’t motivate his players. On paper Boro were the strongest of the 4 play off teams but they failed to turn up when it mattered. For me, I like Carrick but he as per Mason still have a lot of development to do before I would consider them a candidate.

Exactly. And yet people think Mason should be allowed to potentially make similar rookie mistakes as our manager! Beggars belief.

 

[barry]

The bar is set so low these days. One swallow and all that. Personally don't think he should be any where near the job.

It is better to succeed aiming low than to fail aiming high. At Spurs we set our sights very low, so that even success will have in it an echo of disappointment.

D.Levy circa 2023

 

[OPModric]

I'm not making any judgments about Lopetegui, as such, but do we want to appoint a manager whose last match was losing 5-0 to Arsenal?

May just be seen a little bit on the nose for how the two clubs' fortunes have diverged over the last 12 months.

He does have pretty good stats with Wolves. 9 wins in 22 games from being bottom of the league.

Wolves: Julen Lopetegui's Premier League record at Molineux

Wolves: Julen Lopetegui's Premier League record at Molineux

www.bbc.com

He also has been good enough to gain moves to Real Madrid and Spain and did very well for Sevilla.

 

[RuskyM]

Arteta had even less managerial experience than Mason currently does. Given that the list is rapidly dwindling, I’d infinitely rather Mase than someone the club clearly doesn’t rate again. If we don’t have candidate that enthuses, one who’s enthusiastic about us would be a pretty nice substitute.

Exactly. And yet people think Mason should be allowed to potentially make similar rookie mistakes as our manager! Beggars belief.

Mason would have the excuse of inexperience, whereas for the last few it’s been what, stubbornness?

 

[Roynie]

Which ever manager Levy decides on, he will have to factor in no European games next season, with the consequent reduction in income to the club. I wonder if he will finally realize how much he has messed up being too difficult to deal with and too much interference in the football side of the business!