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Geyzer Soze

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Nice one let your family members get away with anything and you would defend them:
The previous post says it all then!
You bloody right i'd defend my son no matter what he did. (publicly. Privately i'd have some choice words ...). To the death.

I take it you don't have kids?
 

whitechina

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You bloody right i'd defend my son no matter what he did. (publicly. Privately i'd have some choice words ...). To the death.

I take it you don't have kids?
I'm the same about my daughter- she can be a right little ***** but you always have to support your kids
 

max cady

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The man brings arrogance to a new level. To think he referred to a journalist as 'being arrogant' coming out of his mouth was a bit rich. The premier league will be better without this guy.

Give Big Sam the job
 

Gbspurs

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Jan 27, 2011
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You bloody right i'd defend my son no matter what he did. (publicly. Privately i'd have some choice words ...). To the death.

I take it you don't have kids?

"No matter what they did". Surely there must be a caveat there? Blind defence of your children doesn't make great parenting, they need to know that some actions have consequences rather than.

I'm the same about my daughter- she can be a right little ***** but you always have to support your kids

Support I agree but he could have done this whilst still taking a stance against the video. Something along the lines of "apologies for the video, he is a good lad and knows what he did was stupid and offensive and he has learned a tough lesson and is very apologetic over his actions" etc etc.
 

Geyzer Soze

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"No matter what they did". Surely there must be a caveat there? Blind defence of your children doesn't make great parenting, they need to know that some actions have consequences rather than.
I stress again ... publicly. I have stated at least twice in this convo that privately it'd be different, but i'm fucked if i would sell my kid down the river for reasons of my own reputation or job or whatever.
 

Topeka

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well done you (y)
Yes and as I also do a lot of work with victims of crime you get to see how people are really impacted by criminal acts committed against them. One of my kids done a lot of damage to people through his criminal activities and he just didn't did not give a f***. I took some advice and was told to give him 3 chances and if he did not straighten up the cut the cord and unfortunately that's what happened. I don't regret it and I would do the same again, defend them to the death that sort of thinking belongs in the middle east or eastern Europe in the patriarchal family structures! .
 

Geyzer Soze

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Yes and as I also do a lot of work with victims of crime you get to see how people are really impacted by criminal acts committed against them. One of my kids done a lot of damage to people through his criminal activities and he just didn't did not give a f***. I took some advice and was told to give him 3 chances and if he did not straighten up the cut the cord and unfortunately that's what happened. I don't regret it and I would do the same again, defend them to the death that sort of thinking belongs in the middle east or eastern Europe in the patriarchal family structures! .
That's odd, because you just right now in the post before said (and i quote) "there is a line that they don't cross" ... i'm confused ... what's the line then?
 

hashmander

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i think it might just be a wording confusion. the way i understand it when he says "I have kids and there is a line that they dont cross", he has a line they better not cross. not that they are so well behaved that they don't make bad decisions repeatedly (as evidence by his next post). you're reading it as it's his kids' line that was instilled in them and they know not to cross it. i read it as this is my line and you cross it and we're done.
 

tony_parkes

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Yes and as I also do a lot of work with victims of crime you get to see how people are really impacted by criminal acts committed against them. One of my kids done a lot of damage to people through his criminal activities and he just didn't did not give a f***. I took some advice and was told to give him 3 chances and if he did not straighten up the cut the cord and unfortunately that's what happened. I don't regret it and I would do the same again, defend them to the death that sort of thinking belongs in the middle east or eastern Europe in the patriarchal family structures! .

I am married with 2 kids, have a good income and a wife who also has a good career. Own my home, mortgage should be paid off by the time I'm 50. Good relationship with my family and wife's side of the family.

I've also been a wrong un and been given countless final chances as a teenager and young adult. My family didn't give up on me, it's only really been whilst in my 30's that I've sorted things out.

Not sure crossing the line one more time threat is the way way to go.
 

KILLA_SIN

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You could always do the old Japanese style press conference and announce how your son has brought shame to your family and you apologise whilst crying

Maybe they could follow up with a Yakuza style little finger cutting as an apology.
 

Topeka

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I am married with 2 kids, have a good income and a wife who also has a good career. Own my home, mortgage should be paid off by the time I'm 50. Good relationship with my family and wife's side of the family.

I've also been a wrong un and been given countless final chances as a teenager and young adult. My family didn't give up on me, it's only really been whilst in my 30's that I've sorted things out.

Not sure crossing the line one more time threat is the way way to go.

I am glad it worked out for you that is a good story you can relay to your kids if you want, nothing better than personal experiences.
But you have to ask the question "how long is a piece of string"? how many chances do you give anyone!
Ask the victims some say none others are more generous:
There has to be a clear indication given otherwise some family members take the piss again and again and again.
The 3 strikes rule has some merit!
 

etchedchaos

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I think anyone who defends a son for being a mass murderer publicly has lost the plot, there's a line and mass murdering goes so far beyond the line that to defend it publicly defies belief. I can understand the whole supporting your family thing, but supporting a mass-murderer publicly? Cannot understand it, at all.

I can think of several situations in which publicly supporting your son is madness.

Pedophilia
Terrorism
Mass murder

At some point you have to publicly draw the line or else you shame the rest of your family by supporting such heinous acts in the public eye. Oh and these acts would be high profile affairs too, so publicly supporting your mass-murdering/kiddy fiddling/terrorist son would get alot of TV and press coverage.
 
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