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GetSpurredOn

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That's not a bad idea, so long as it's a true fallback option and not Plan A.

I would much prefer a guy like Bony to Remy and the values aren't much different, if at all.

But, if you told me we would add Osvaldo, Bony, Son and a LB (Davies) and a CM (Clasie) prior to the window starts, I'd just about crap my pants in glee.

Loving this.
A new LB to replace the apparaently outbound Ekotto, of equal calibre or greater potential if younger. Rose back into the squad from his loan, plus one other new to make sure we genuine depth/competition for places.
A new CM to compete/cover/compliment the Sandro & Dembele pairing. (I don't think Parker looks the same after his injury, or maybe it's AVB's system)
A new winger, give us the depth of options we have't had this year if Lennon/Bale are not available for any reason. Townsend back into the squad from his loan, plus one other new to make sure we genuine depth/competition for places.
Two new CF's, give us some options for the cutting edge we have alcked this year despite our ability to control possession. Three in the squad (unlike this year), so even allowing for one injury/suspension etc, we have more than one option.

This would give us two genuine players for each position (plus a youngster for depth), like for like naturally, not players covering out of position.

LLoris, Friedel, (Archer/Vigoroux)
Walker, Smith/Naughton, (Fredericks)
Rose, New Signing, (Fryers)
Kaboul, Dawson, (Hall)
Vertonghen, Caulker, (Ekong/Velkjovic)
Sandro, Parker/Huddlestone/Livermore, (Luongo/Parrett)
Dembele, New Signing, (Carroll)
Lennon, New Signing, (Ceballos)
Holtby, Sigurdsson, (Mason)
Bale, Townsend, (Pritchard)
Defoe, 2x New Signings, (Kane/Couilbaily/Coulthirst)

Potentially, we could sell/release
Gomes, Naughton?, Ekotto, Gallas, Khumolo, Parker/Huddlestone/Livermore?, Bentley, Falque?, Dempsey, Adebayor.
This would free up fees and wages for five required sigings.
 

Dharmabum

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http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3774/the-sweeper/2013/04/27/3933310/-

27 Apr 2013 07:10:00



Spurs sat down with the Argentina-born Italy striker regarding a summer transfer, while Arsenal chief executive Ivan Gazidis urged rival clubs not to take legal action over FFP

TOTTENHAM HELD OSVALDO TALKS
Pablo Osvaldo is likely to be sold by Roma this summer if they receive an offer that matches their £13 million asking price.
One possible destination is Tottenham, who are in the market for a new striker.
The Sweeper can reveal that a Spurs representative had a meeting with Osvaldo when he was in London earlier in April while suspended from Serie A action.
The Italy international has had a solid season, scoring 12 goals in 25 league games, but he is believed to be ready to move on from the capital.
Roma will sanction the 27-year-old’s exit from the Stadio Olimpico if they receive an offer that is similar to the sum they paid for the Argentina-born hitman in 2011, when he was signed from Espanyol in a deal worth up to £14.75m.
Meeting Osvaldo’s salary expectations should not be an insurmountable problem for Spurs if they decide to press ahead with an offer.
The striker currently earns £61,000-a-week at Roma, a sum that will rise to £72,500-a-week in the final year of his contract, which runs until 2016.
- Wayne Veysey
 

mill

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Not so sure at the £13m quoted in that article, the £8m previously mentioned is interesting. Should try straight swap for ade
 

Snarfalicious

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Not so sure at the £13m quoted in that article, the £8m previously mentioned is interesting. Should try straight swap for ade

Totally agree on that.

I'd love to see us pretty much break even by selling Defoe/Adebayor (and/or, only way we'd get what we'd want for Ade is if it comes from Russia) and a new striker coming in that is a veteran and ready to contribute that also fits the formation a bit better.
 

only1waddle

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Totally agree on that.

I'd love to see us pretty much break even by selling Defoe/Adebayor (and/or, only way we'd get what we'd want for Ade is if it comes from Russia) and a new striker coming in that is a veteran and ready to contribute that also fits the formation a bit better.

What do you think of Nils Petersen Snarf? playing at Bremen but Munich still his parent club, he looks strictly a fox in the box type but i do think we need a Hernandez style option from the bench..
 

Snarfalicious

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What do you think of Nils Petersen Snarf? playing at Bremen but Munich still his parent club, he looks strictly a fox in the box type but i do think we need a Hernandez style option from the bench..

That's really not a bad thought at all. He really could be sold by Bayern because of their surplus in strikers and his age. But, I think there's been talk about Werder Bremen taking him permanently.

He reminds me a little of a poor-mans Edin Dzeko. Not as much of a proficient goal scorer, but sort of a toned-down skillset of Dzeko. But, as you mentioned, I've always been impressed by his ability to find the right pockets of space when charging in or around the box.

Good target option, but I'm not sure just how good he is. He's still coming into his prime, though. But he's had a solid season for Werder Bremen.
 

only1waddle

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That's really not a bad thought at all. He really could be sold by Bayern because of their surplus in strikers and his age. But, I think there's been talk about Werder Bremen taking him permanently.

He reminds me a little of a poor-mans Edin Dzeko. Not as much of a proficient goal scorer, but sort of a toned-down skillset of Dzeko. But, as you mentioned, I've always been impressed by his ability to find the right pockets of space when charging in or around the box.

Good target option, but I'm not sure just how good he is. He's still coming into his prime, though. But he's had a solid season for Werder Bremen.

I'm not sure how well his style and skill set would translate leagues either, Munich out of interest paid 2.8 million Euro for him.. for this sort of cash it would be worth a punt..
 

brendanb50

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Reminds me a bit of Berbatov in flashes. In the same way though it sounds like he has a bit of a sulk/tantrum in him.

Either way - if the 8million being mentioned is fact, i'd see him as a good start to sorting our front line out.
 

Snarfalicious

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I've mentioned here that I'm a fan of Osvaldo, but if you gave me the option of an 8m Osvaldo or a 12m Bony...

Bony every day of the week.

Osvaldo has a little more craft to his game, but Bony is just a brute that will score bags of goals and pretty much leave defenders crumpled on the floor.
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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I've mentioned here that I'm a fan of Osvaldo, but if you gave me the option of an 8m Osvaldo or a 12m Bony...

Bony every day of the week.

Osvaldo has a little more craft to his game, but Bony is just a brute that will score bags of goals and pretty much leave defenders crumpled on the floor.
My prefered options would be 1. Leandro 2. Osvaldo (I believe Benteke will stay at Villa or crazy money). Bony would be a decent back up option but as a previous poster said, its Eredivisie, he could end up being a Kezman rather than a Suarez, looks a decent player when I've seen him though.
 

Snarfalicious

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He does that in Eredivisie, where he has plenty of space.
Premier League is a different story.

That is a very fair point and there is no true rebuttal that will ease those concerns.

However, after watching Bony this season, it is not as though he is some speed merchant that simply blows by hapless Eredivise defenders. He is often riding challenges in the box in the midst of a swarm of defenders.

Obviously the quality of said defenders are much less than that of the Premier League, but he has shown good results against Ajax who many believe their central defenders are of PL quality.
 

brendanb50

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That is a very fair point and there is no true rebuttal that will ease those concerns.

However, after watching Bony this season, it is not as though he is some speed merchant that simply blows by hapless Eredivise defenders. He is often riding challenges in the box in the midst of a swarm of defenders.

Obviously the quality of said defenders are much less than that of the Premier League, but he has shown good results against Ajax who many believe their central defenders are of PL quality.

Yep to me Bony seems to create a bit of his own space with his back to goal holding off players and usually when neck and neck with a defender, seems to win the physical battles with ease.

Would be interesting to see how he fairs in a bigger league - I'd note that whilst Eredivise defenders are probably slightly weaker on the whole there are a few teams in the prem who i'd argue are worse. To me he looks as though he has a bit more to his game than just a bit of strength as well.
 

leray

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That is a very fair point and there is no true rebuttal that will ease those concerns.

However, after watching Bony this season, it is not as though he is some speed merchant that simply blows by hapless Eredivise defenders. He is often riding challenges in the box in the midst of a swarm of defenders.

Obviously the quality of said defenders are much less than that of the Premier League, but he has shown good results against Ajax who many believe their central defenders are of PL quality.

Yeah, sure, he's not "one of the bottle", his stats are providing the evidence.
I just think he would struggle in Premier League and he has to add something to his game. However, if he's at his high, he won't be scoring a lot in England.

Plus, he can shine even against top-class defenders like Alderweireld or Marcelo from PSV, but to fight against the Cahills, Reids and so on every week is something different.

But he is a good player, and he'll be a good addition to the squad, but not as a main striker. Osvaldo is much better and much more experienced in a very good league.
 

mill

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Yeah, sure, he's not "one of the bottle", his stats are providing the evidence.
I just think he would struggle in Premier League and he has to add something to his game. However, if he's at his high, he won't be scoring a lot in England.

Plus, he can shine even against top-class defenders like Alderweireld or Marcelo from PSV, but to fight against the Cahills, Reids and so on every week is something different.

But he is a good player, and he'll be a good addition to the squad, but not as a main striker. Osvaldo is much better and much more experienced in a very good league.
Fine swap our two mugs for them, everyone's a winner
 

gavspur

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Bony scores, but I dunno, I think he's the sort of player who'd come to the PL and not score for ages.

As above, maybe both him and Osvaldo could come in? Would Roma want Ade?
 

michaelden

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http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3774/the-sweeper/2013/04/27/3933310/-

27 Apr 2013 07:10:00



Spurs sat down with the Argentina-born Italy striker regarding a summer transfer, while Arsenal chief executive Ivan Gazidis urged rival clubs not to take legal action over FFP

TOTTENHAM HELD OSVALDO TALKS
Pablo Osvaldo is likely to be sold by Roma this summer if they receive an offer that matches their £13 million asking price.
One possible destination is Tottenham, who are in the market for a new striker.
The Sweeper can reveal that a Spurs representative had a meeting with Osvaldo when he was in London earlier in April while suspended from Serie A action.
The Italy international has had a solid season, scoring 12 goals in 25 league games, but he is believed to be ready to move on from the capital.
Roma will sanction the 27-year-old’s exit from the Stadio Olimpico if they receive an offer that is similar to the sum they paid for the Argentina-born hitman in 2011, when he was signed from Espanyol in a deal worth up to £14.75m.
Meeting Osvaldo’s salary expectations should not be an insurmountable problem for Spurs if they decide to press ahead with an offer.
The striker currently earns £61,000-a-week at Roma, a sum that will rise to £72,500-a-week in the final year of his contract, which runs until 2016.
- Wayne Veysey


and what has happened since then?
 
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