Player watch: Christian Eriksen

[Yiddo100]

The other week nobody was believing Dragon1. Is he back in favour now then?

What did he say?

 

[Johnny J]

Do we think Eriksen is one of the six we expect out as per dragons itk earlier?

It seemed to imply that that is six regardless of Eriksen, and that we’d be going for both Bruno and Lo Celso regardless of Eriksen too. If that’s the case (I know it sounds far fetched) then that’s pretty spectacular.

Off the top of my head: Wanyama, Onomah, Edwards, Carter-Vickers, Nkoudou, Aurier.

I don’t see much more than £40m out of that lot though.

I seriously doubt we're going to shift six players out in a week.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Depends if he's telling me what I want to hear.

tbh - that info that was posted has the words 'if' and 'maybe' attached to them regarding transfers in - anyone positive about that are deluded.

 

[SpartanSpur]

The other week nobody was believing Dragon1. Is he back in favour now then?

What did Dragon say we didn't agree with? Only one in the RO and seems along similar lines, saying the funds were there for GLC?

 

[fortworthspur]

Well Bournemouth certainly have, and probably Watford, Wolves and few others also.
Start point for period you are stating we were a European side anyway and actually won a trophy.

Bournemouth's a good shout. the other two I'd disagree with.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

tbh - that info that was posted has the words 'if' and 'maybe' attached to them regarding transfers in - anyone positive about that are deluded.

To be fair, anybody who thinks the club isn’t totally fucked and we’re in for anything other than a relegation fight, followed by Pochettino leaving and taking Kane with him, is deluded

 

[spursfan77]

What did Dragon say we didn't agree with? Only one in the RO and seems along similar lines, saying the funds were there for GLC?

I’m sure people were doubting him the other day. Anyway doesn’t matter, he’s been good to us in the past, I’ve no reason to question him.

 

[DFF]

He's Danish I think he will be used to it

Exactly.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Well Bournemouth certainly have, and probably Watford, Wolves and few others also.
Start point for period you are stating we were a European side anyway and actually won a trophy.

It depends how you quantify improvement. I’d say it’s much harder making it from 5th/ 6th to 3rd best (as our average finish in the past four seasons puts us) than it is going from 15/ 16th to 8th/9th.

 

[SpartanSpur]

I’m sure people were doubting him the other day. Anyway doesn’t matter, he’s been good to us in the past, I’ve no reason to question him.

No worries, was genuinely intrigued as was looking him up on here this morning. Seems a good source.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

I seriously doubt we're going to shift six players out in a week.

Depends how badly we want rid I guess. As deadline day gets closer, Wanyama will be a lot more appealing to a lot of clubs, ditto Aurier and Nkoudou. The young ones will be harder but the HG factor alone will help as even the Burnleys of this world are only allowed so many non hg players.

 

[Trotter]

It depends how you quantify improvement. I’d say it’s much harder making it from 5th/ 6th to 3rd best (as our average finish in the past four seasons puts us) than it is going from 15/ 16th to 8th/9th.

Whereas I would say it is much harder going up 3 (in Bournemeouth's )or 2 divisions (Watford, Brighton or Wolves case) than going up 3 places in the League which has been done in the timescale

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Whereas I would say it is much harder going up 3 (in Bournemeouth's )or 2 divisions (Watford, Brighton or Wolves case) than going up 3 places in the League which has been done in the timescale

In all those cases bar Brighton, the respective clubs were bankrolled by owners with premier league level resources competing against lower league paupers.

 

[Trotter]

In all those cases bar Brighton, the respective clubs were bankrolled by owners with premier league level resources competing against lower league paupers.

And you could argue we have been bankrolled by selling Bale for world record fee (despite us trying to sell him for a pittance a few years earlier, although Harry always says he was only trying to loan him out) and having the fortune of having a 30+ goal a season £150m striker in our academy that we would have sold again for a pittance if it wasn't for Sherwood saying he was his number one striker after the club were preparing to sell him.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

And you could argue we have been bankrolled by selling Bale for world record fee (despite us trying to sell him for a pittance a few years earlier) and having the fortune of having a 30+ goal a season £150m striker in our academy that we would have sold again for a pittance if it wasn't for Sherwood saying he was number one striker after the club were preparing to sell him.

Yes, developing a player from 17 years old into the worlds most expensive player, and another academy product into a top class striker, as well as numerous other examples of very good player development, is just luck and exactly the same as being bankrolled by someone 100x richer than the rest of the division. In fact, we’ve had an unfair advantage in our league, all this good coaching and player development, poor old City and Chelsea have had to spend fortunes while we’ve had the luxury of a long term strategy and pain staking organic improvement, bless their cotton socks.

My mistake, I won’t do it again.

@doctor stefan Freud

 

[Trotter]

Yes, developing a player from 17 years old into the worlds most expensive player, and another academy product into a top class striker, as well as numerous other examples of very good player development, is just luck and exactly the same as being bankrolled by someone 100x richer than the rest of the division. In fact, we’ve had an unfair advantage in our league, all this good coaching and player development, poor old City and Chelsea have had to spend fortunes while we’ve had the luxury of a long term strategy and pain staking organic improvement, bless their cotton socks.

My mistake, I won’t do it again.

In the case of still having Kane, and developing Bale and then benefitting, yes it is.
The club in both cases were prepared to cut their losses early in their Spurs careers,

Obviously in other cases, such as identifying young players (e.g. Dele) and developing them from young age (e.g. Winks) then not at all.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

In the case of still having Kane, and developing Bale and then benefitting, yes it is.
The club in both cases were prepared to cut their losses early in their Spurs careers,

Obviously in other cases, such as identifying young players (e.g. Dele) and developing them from young age (e.g. Winks) then not at all.

So broken down, developing players = unretrievable bankrolling.

I’m not going to open up the can of worms that is to suggest that our owners have actually put far more money into the club with both the up front costs and the debt taken on in building the stadium and training ground than any of our rivals have by splashing on players...

 

[wrd]

In the case of still having Kane, and developing Bale and then benefitting, yes it is.
The club in both cases were prepared to cut their losses early in their Spurs careers,

Obviously in other cases, such as identifying young players (e.g. Dele) and developing them from young age (e.g. Winks) then not at all.

You keep saying we were going to but the club made the decision not to. Its like youre critical of what the club gets wrong but its luck what they got right. Fact is we didnt make the decisions you keep suggesting we were going to do. Judge them by the actions not the hearsay.

 

[Trotter]

So broken down, developing players = unretrievable bankrolling.

I’m not going to open up the can of worms that is to suggest that our owners have actually put far more money into the club with both the up front costs and the debt taken on in building the stadium and training ground than any of our rivals have by splashing on players...

Of course you aren't , because that would be completely false of course, as you are entirely aware.

The up front share purchase to own the club (which isn't injecting money into club at all) and subsequent rights issues is what the owners have injected into the club less the fees and dividends (if applicable) they have taken out.
There are no personal or ENIC loans in the balance sheet at all.
The debt taken on is not personal debt, but borrowed against the assets of the club.

Yes, a lot of good financial management has gone on, and more than our fair share of luck along the way, which has allowed us to reinvest profits etc, to enable the capital acquisitions, but to even try and suggest they have put more into the club is hilarious.

 

[RikkiRocket]

I seriously doubt we're going to shift six players out in a week.

Maybe we can just hide them.