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Shadydan

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Ok well seeing Danny deliver this line I didn't feel there was any amount of sarcasm/mockery going on .It wasn't in response to a media question 'Are you going to leave ' where did you get that idea ?

Does anyone here still believe that Danny hasn't been pushing for a move ? Firstly during his injury outburst and secondly among the 'various players' that Poch said asked to leave last summer . Does anyone believe the club is genuinely trying to get rid of Danny ?

To me this was , within 10 minutes of a great Spurs triumph, Danny putting himself in the shop window by implying that the club wants to push him out . I've not seen any media saying he's 'being sold' , but if there has been this hasn't come from the club .

Where might this rumour have come from do we think ?

My allegiance is 100% to Spurs the club and I don't like to see what I believe to be incorrect implications such as this against it .

a) Being the straight talker that he is I find it difficult to agree that he'd snidely put himself in the transfer window like that.

b) Players don't need to go the media to push for a transfer, if they want a move their agents do all the work.
 

The Scarecrow

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Bit slippery of him to make out he is the hapless victim in the Guardian today . 'I keep reading I'm going to be sold' he says

As if it isn't 100% him who is pushing to move . Unimpressed .
I hardly think he's going to push for a move three weeks before the biggest game of his career.
 

ardiles

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Like Poche and his curt, sarcastic response to being asked if he's going to leave, after just getting to the CL final, I imagine Danny is mocking the press.

Yes, i think that they’ve had enough of the bias against us by the press throughout the season and are just playing around with them now.

I’m expecting Eriksen will be the next one to come out publicly stating that he’s planning on going to Spain :whistle:
 

Gassin's finest

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Ok well seeing Danny deliver this line I didn't feel there was any amount of sarcasm/mockery going on .It wasn't in response to a media question 'Are you going to leave ' where did you get that idea ?

Does anyone here still believe that Danny hasn't been pushing for a move ? Firstly during his injury outburst and secondly among the 'various players' that Poch said asked to leave last summer . Does anyone believe the club is genuinely trying to get rid of Danny ?

To me this was , within 10 minutes of a great Spurs triumph, Danny putting himself in the shop window by implying that the club wants to push him out . I've not seen any media saying he's 'being sold' , but if there has been this hasn't come from the club .

Where might this rumour have come from do we think ?

My allegiance is 100% to Spurs the club and I don't like to see what I believe to be incorrect implications such as this against it .
Really, really, no.
 

Led's Zeppelin

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Ok well seeing Danny deliver this line I didn't feel there was any amount of sarcasm/mockery going on .It wasn't in response to a media question 'Are you going to leave ' where did you get that idea ?

Does anyone here still believe that Danny hasn't been pushing for a move ? Firstly during his injury outburst and secondly among the 'various players' that Poch said asked to leave last summer . Does anyone believe the club is genuinely trying to get rid of Danny ?

To me this was , within 10 minutes of a great Spurs triumph, Danny putting himself in the shop window by implying that the club wants to push him out . I've not seen any media saying he's 'being sold' , but if there has been this hasn't come from the club .

Where might this rumour have come from do we think ?

My allegiance is 100% to Spurs the club and I don't like to see what I believe to be incorrect implications such as this against it .

I believe you are very mistaken in the way you’re reading this.

It’s a joking dig at the press in response to a silly question, in the immediate euphoria of a very emotional finale to the biggest game and best result of his career so far. Hardly likely to be an underhand and openly disloyal strategic transfer manoeuvre.

Whatever else Danny Rose is, he’s open and straight about things.
 

JimmyG2

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Danny is good enough
but he also brings heart and commitment.
Skill is not enough
plenty of players have that.
We also need energy and fire
to succeed these day.

Don't go Danny.
Easily the best of our full back/ wing thingies
last on the 'to go' list for me.
 

whitesocks

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I'll miss Rose, especially as he now seems over his injury and is back to his best.
If he is going back to Leeds, they'll love him up there for his attitude and work rate.

Whether he believes it not, he is an immensely popular player here and we recognise that his energy has made this team competitive over the last 6 years.
I hope he, Eriksen, Tripps and Alderweireld are given a tremendous send off this weekend. Probably MP too. And that's the end of the chapter.
 

DazzyWazzy55

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It’s been a tough couple of years for him, so it was fantastic to see him back to his best recently and being so integral last night. Really happy for him. I LOVE fired up Rose battling with players up the left side of the pitch and getting stuck in. One of my favourite Spurs players when he’s like that. He’s also a unique character, different to a lot of footballers and that’s always something I enjoy
I agree with you, he does seem to be a unique character who does things his own way rightly or wrongly. Seems like we have form for unique left backs, Disco Benny was a one off as well! If Danny could cross a ball then what a weapon he would be, but his commitment and energy are sorely needed when we have others on the pitch who just aren't at 100%
 

Gilzeanking

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Anyway , I think I speak for us all when I say that we wish that separate managerial/player agendas/comments were left until after
the historical Madrid final and that they focus exclusively on that .
 

walworthyid

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This is all nonsense. It's not how Danny operates at all. If he wanted to leave he would say. He has been immense for a good while now. Just needed to get fit.

Love his passion.
 

Led's Zeppelin

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Anyway , I think I speak for us all when I say that we wish that separate managerial/player agendas/comments were left until after
the historical Madrid final and that they focus exclusively on that .

But that's exactly why the players and management often react in the piss-taking way they do. You've seen how cross Pochettino gets with what he considers stupid or inappropriate questions, especially immediately before and after important games when, as he makes very clear, he only wants to talk about the game and not even think about other things..

Sometimes he get very annoyed and tells them off, sometimes he gives sarcastic or ironic replies. Sometimes he just takes the piss.

We should stop reading agendas into everything they say.
 

Dharmabum

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https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/8818674/danny-rose-important-outspoken-england-spurs/

DAVE KIDD
Spurs ace Danny Rose matters more than any other Premier League star thanks to his disarming honesty
From mental health to racism, Rose doesn’t say things for effect - he says things because they matter, and that is so important
COMMENT
By Dave Kidd
8th April 2019, 11:04 pm

DANNY ROSE is not your typical Premier League footballer - he doesn’t do social media, he doesn’t Google himself.
He doesn’t do bland post-match interviews. He doesn’t smile and say "cheese" for the cameras.

He doesn’t speak when he’s told to speak, as part of cosy marketing tie-ups. He doesn’t allow club officials to mute him or "approve" his words.
He is unpolished, immune from the slick marketing which goes with most of his peers as an England international with a top-six club.

He is a Yorkshireman to his core. He talks with disarming honesty and doesn’t suffer fools gladly.
Rose is the footballer who started talking from the heart and found that he didn’t want to stop.
He has a sharp mind and a blunt way of speaking. And he speaks about many subjects some have considered taboo — such as mental health, racism and money.
And, as a result, Danny Rose matters. He probably matters more than any other current Premier League footballer.

BLUNT, HONEST, DISARMING
Not that it’s a competition but he might matter even more than his brilliant England team-mate, Raheem Sterling, who he will meet in a Champions League quarter-final tonight.
The first time Rose truly spoke his mind in public, in August 2017, it was my privilege to be the journalist he opened up to.
In an interview he requested and was fined heavily by Spurs for giving, Rose issued brutal criticism of his club’s recruitment policy and spoke frankly of his own ambitions.
Some of Rose’s criticisms look unfair in hindsight. Others were accurate.
He is Tottenham’s longest-serving player, yet despite his club’s consistent over-achievement, the 28-year-old still has not won a single medal.
That interview wasn’t truly "important" in the wider sense, but one line from it was key.
“I am opinionated and I might not have long left in football,” said Rose.
“One thing is for sure, for the rest of this career, I will play this game how I want to play it and, while I am not going to disrespect anyone, I am going to voice my opinions.”
Rose has certainly been true to his word.
Before last summer’s World Cup, the FA threw open their doors to the world’s media and made all 23 of Gareth Southgate’s squad available for interview, in a move which earned the governing body deserved plaudits.
There must have been more than a hundred interviews conducted during that hour but England’s reserve left-back gave the only one which mattered.
Without having told Southgate, the FA or even his close friends and family of his intention to do so, Rose opened up to myself and two other newspaper journalists about his mental health.
He spoke of being diagnosed with depression, of having been on medication, of his shock when a beloved uncle — with a sunny disposition and apparently optimistic view of life — had committed suicide and also spoke of his torment at an incident in which a gun was fired at his brother.
Southgate is a huge admirer of Rose, who shares his national manager’s feeling of loving football as a game but not as a business.

Yet even Southgate did not think the timing of Rose’s extraordinary interview was ideal, so close to the World Cup.
And the first thing many people in football said to Rose, after he’d given that interview, was that it might cost him a move to a bigger club and make him less marketable.
That is the attitude he is fighting against in an industry which knows the price of every footballer but often fails to value the human being.
Yet there must have been countless people, suffering from depression and struggling for self-esteem, who would have taken huge comfort from hearing a successful and wealthy footballer laying bare how indiscriminate mental illness can be.
If an England star heading for the World Cup doesn’t feel ashamed or cowed by his mental illness, then why should they?
The other day, Rose — having been the target of sickening monkey chants while representing England in Montenegro — spoke out about racism. And he did so in the best possible way.
He didn’t speak in cliches, with the well-meaning but trite phrases many employ when they discuss racism.
He spoke without a script, with rawness and anger. He spoke in a way which made people genuinely uncomfortable.

And what right do any of us have to feel comfortable, when a man represents his country and cretins seek to dehumanise him?
When we’re angry, we don’t always literally mean every word we say. Sometimes we exaggerate to get a point across.
Rose said that the way football’s authorities fail to deal with racism makes him feel as though he can’t wait to turn his back on the game.
This is a man who has dedicated his life to football. The game is in his blood.
Rose’s uncle, brother and cousin are all past or present professional footballers. The family boast more than 1,000 senior appearances.
So when he talks about having “had enough”, it is meant to convey his anger at the lack of seriousness with which the FA, Uefa and Fifa regard the blight of racism.
Rose said that when supporters are guilty of racism in international matches, their FAs usually get fined less than he’d spend on a night out in London.
When Rose was targeted by racial abuse, as well as stones and other missiles, while playing for England Under-21s in Serbia in 2012, the Serbian FA were fined £65,000.

UNAPOLOGETICALLY ANGRY
So many people read Rose’s words and their first response was to condemn him for suggesting that he might spaff 65 grand in an evening.
Given that Rose’s most decadent nights out tend to be having a couple of pints of beer while watching the darts at Ally Pally, it is clear he is not being literal.
He was being unapologetically angry and was using exaggeration to make a point.
Had Rose been white, many of those same people wouldn’t have made such insulting assumptions about his words.
With some justification, Sterling has railed against the way black footballers have often been portrayed in the media and elsewhere.
But Rose is a prime example of how lazy and misleading the "bling" image attached to black footballers and to young black men in general, tends to be.
Rose is introverted, cussed, stubborn, independently minded and has that ability — in keeping with the Yorkshire stereotype — of not giving too much of a toss what others think of him.
Some have called on Rose to become a spokesman and a figurehead in the crusade against racism — but that kind of role might not suit him.
 
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Disarming honesty?

He is a ready made soundbite made for todays hot take and perfect for media.

Same reason why fans 'love' Roy Keane.

You let them blow smoke your arsehole and they will, with pleasure.
 

King of Otters

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That second half performance was genuine Braveheart stuff, a legendary performance, but I can’t be the only one who was cursing him after he kicked the ball out for the corner they scored from, under no pressure whatsoever?
 
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hughy

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That second half performance was genuine Braveheart stuff, a legendary performance, but I can’t be the only the only one who was cursing him after he kicked the ball out for the corner they scored from, under no pressure whatsoever?
The crowd noise was insane at the beginning of the game, I wouldn't blame him if he didn't get/hear a call that he had time.
 
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