Player watch: Danny Rose

[Hercules]

Not true this is GROSS MISCONDUCT which is a sack able offence. and Im an employer too

Agree to disagree.

 

[C0YS]

No we would not. We would get either one of three warnings. I'm an employer so should know.

What if you write a blog about it, or get in the local newspaper. The reputational damage that that could cause... Would that just be a warning?

Its not like an internal thing, if it was I'm not sure I'd even deem that a warning. Its public, as public as you can make it.

 

[Swalien]

many papers saying he returned to training with 'a hero's welcome'.

Hmmmm, I don't think the (insert money bags football team supporting) "journalists" who witnessed that were able to see the thought of those welcoming him. Pretty sure they must have been thinking "what a tw*t", if this even happened. Almost like ironic jeering if it happened at all.

This whole episode looks like it has been engineered by the money loving press, rose's agent and whichever club are trying to get him on the cheap, whilst also trying to jeopardise our club.

 

[Reece]

LOL what an awful 'apology' statement as well... What a dunce.

 

[StanSpur]

I guess the heros welcome may have been wide of the mark given that he's felt the need to apologise

 

[Hercules]

What if you write a blog about it, or get in the local newspaper. The reputational damage that that could cause... Would that just be a warning?

Its not like an internal thing, if it was I'm not sure I'd even deem that a warning. Its public, as public as you can make it.

Depends on the value of that employee to you. As I said you can fine etc. Not necessarily dismiss. More concerning in this case is elements of your supporters bring negative to him when he is playing.

 

[dk-yid]

Danny Rose has issues an apology through his agents Soccer Base... They have a Twitter account.

https://twitter.com/BaseSoccer/status/895964185477173249

Sorry if already posted. My internet is playing tricks.

 

[sxboy]

Lucky hes not on more money otherwise that two week fine would have cost a fortune.

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

I don't think he did mean it in quite the way it was reported anyway.

Have you ever been interviewed by the press? Even when they quote verbatim ( which they seldom do) they are more than capable of spinning way beyond the interviewee's intent. What we don't know is how the questions were phrased.

"Are you the kind of person who would happily accept being paid less than you're worth?"

"Would you like to see Spurs buying a few more top players to help you compete st the top level?"

"Would you be happy to go a few more years without winning any medals?"

"Would you ever consider playing up north again?"

Many well-trained highly intelligent media-savvy people have fallen into traps that make them say what the journos want to be able to report. Danny Rose is not any of these things. One election campaign or referendum should make it more than obvious that you need to be very careful indeed about taking these things at face value and basing your opinions of a person or their behaviour on an interview in The Sun.

 

[StanSpur]

Poch press conference on BBC
Q1: what about Rose (looks down list of 20 follow up questions)
Poch: sorted we've moved on he's staying
Q2:.............ok let's see what conte is saying about wenger.........

Coverage over

 

[tooey]

Not true this is GROSS MISCONDUCT which is a sack able offence. and Im an employer too

No chance. The most he'd be done for is bringing the club (company) name into disrepute which would result in a formal warning depending on previous. I'd hate to be your employee or member of your HR team if you'd sacked somebody for that.

 

[SPURSLIFE]

Where do you get this information that Danny Rose is a hero at the training ground? Reliable ITK says complete opposite. Giving the fact this is also a tight knit group who seem to share Pochs ethos I can’t see them believing he’s a hero.

The players get huge bonuses when playing. Funnily enough Danny Rose has been out injured for months so probably been feeling the pinch. This coninceding with he’s best pal walker earning triple his wage and sharing the same agent.. you could also add in that he has more than likely been tapped up and you can start seeing why this has happened, nothing to do with our transfer policy.

7 months and 15 games back he was happy to sign that long term contract, no one stuck a gun to his head. Wages haven’t changed that much since then... But still I wouldn’t begrudge him a move, I can’t put someone down for being ambitious. I like to see myself as ambitious but I wouldn’t shit over my employers and co-workers in the process.

There’s ways of going about this, going to a newspaper like The Sun and claiming poverty and putting your teammates down certainly isn’t it.

And who’s this player Leicester signed ahead of us? Is it the lad from City? The one which is a glorified (no risk to City) Loan?

I agree they respect Poch but I don't think it is as tight as it used to be.Believe what you like but I believe there will be a lot of discontent over the next few weeks which will see some poor results. The player Leicester signed was McGuire who wanted to come to us and we wanted him but they paid him 100k a week.

 

[SPURSLIFE]

Yeah sure. You read it in the Sun? I doubt anyone in the squad is stupid enough to show support of such behaviour openly.

Another supporter not prepared to face the possibility that all is not well at home.

 

[Hakkz]

Another supporter not prepared to face the possibility that all is not well at home.

I don't think that it's all perfect at the club. However, I'm fairly Confident that the players will show the same class that Poch does everytime he's got something to say. The same class that Rose obviously lacks.

 

[Ashen]

Lets all have a whip round for Danny, i'll do the just giving page, anyone fancy doing the London marathon? Unicef are a disgrace, how can they justify channeling all that money to those children in Africa when we have footballers on measly £60k per week salaries - shocking.

 

[stewartd]

No chance. The most he'd be done for is bringing the club (company) name into disrepute which would result in a formal warning depending on previous. I'd hate to be your employee or member of your HR team if you'd sacked somebody for that.

The more highly paid the employee is the stricter the guide lines of Gross Misconduct. Hedge funds , brokers , bankers are sacked immediately if they put anything into the public domain without permission that could be considered harmful to the reputation of the company. This without doubt falls into that category.

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

The more highly paid the employee is the stricter the guide lines of Gross Misconduct. Hedge funds , brokers , bankers are sacked immediately if they put anything into the public domain without permission that could be considered harmful to the reputation of the company. This without doubt falls into that category.

Not always "Gross" misconduct. And rarely a sacking offence. A disciplinary matter though, yes, certainly.

 

[Shadydan]

Time to move on methinks and put this one to bed, he'll stay this season but will probably leave next summer and we'll get good money for him which I always had in my mind anyway, Sign Sessegnon as his replacement next year and we're good to go IMO.

 

[Coyboy]

Not true this is GROSS MISCONDUCT which is a sack able offence. and Im an employer too

On what basis is it gross misconduct?

 

[spursram]

I don't think he did mean it in quite the way it was reported anyway.

Have you ever been interviewed by the press? Even when they quote verbatim ( which they seldom do) they are more than capable of spinning way beyond the interviewee's intent. What we don't know is how the questions were phrased.

"Are you the kind of person who would happily accept being paid less than you're worth?"

"Would you like to see Spurs buying a few more top players to help you compete st the top level?"

"Would you be happy to go a few more years without winning any medals?"

"Would you ever consider playing up north again?"

Many well-trained highly intelligent media-savvy people have fallen into traps that make them say what the journos want to be able to report. Danny Rose is not any of these things. One election campaign or referendum should make it more than obvious that you need to be very careful indeed about taking these things at face value and basing your opinions of a person or their behaviour on an interview in The Sun.

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