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bc205

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I've defended Emerson in the post you quoted and defended him many times this year, the same with Doherty when many were calling him crap. I have also praised Sessegnon when he has had good games, but they are about 2 or 3 in 10. He isn't good enough. His performance yesterday was indicative of most of his games. There is no determination from me to shit on him at all, I am just pointing out he isn't good enough and never will be. It is plain to see. Time and again he makes the same mistakes in defence and attack if you actually watch him.

I have no problem with anyone who doesn't think he's good enough for us, and argues that in a reasonable way.

You didn't do that. You called him a disgrace and said he offers nothing, which is just ridiculous.

I'm not trying to single you out especially here, but am absolutely sick of seeing the constant stream of posts in this forum calling our players shit/disgraceful etc
 

mil1lion

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& seasons prior with the likes of Sanchez, Aurier..
It's funny because I think Aurier would have been better suited to this team and Emerson for Jose. I always felt Aurier was more of a wing back as I feel Emerson is a fullback.
 

Freddie

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It's funny because I think Aurier would have been better suited to this team and Emerson for Jose. I always felt Aurier was more of a wing back as I feel Emerson is a fullback.
Conte doesn't want to use Spence who is an actual wing back so I doubt he'd be too keen on Aurier. He values caution over unpredictability.
 

Sophos151

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Conte doesn't want to use Spence who is an actual wing back so I doubt he'd be too keen on Aurier. He values caution over unpredictability.
That’s mostly because he’s making a point about how he never asked for him to be signed. He uses Perisic, a converted winger, on the left.
 

Ordman

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I know it is not a popular opinion but I thought Emerson looked excellent during the last 15 mins or so playing RCB. He was covering a lot of ground and recycling the ball well. Get rid of Sanchez and make Emerson the backup RCB and then let Spence loose as the WB.
 

Sophos151

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I know it is not a popular opinion but I thought Emerson looked excellent during the last 15 mins or so playing RCB. He was covering a lot of ground and recycling the ball well. Get rid of Sanchez and make Emerson the backup RCB and then let Spence loose as the WB.
It’s easy to look good as a defender when the opposition are sitting back to defend a lead.
 

ukdy

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It's funny because I think Aurier would have been better suited to this team and Emerson for Jose. I always felt Aurier was more of a wing back as I feel Emerson is a fullback.
Agreed. Aurier was better going forward, Emerson definitely better defensively.
 

VoteMe4Prez

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Agreed. Aurier was better going forward, Emerson definitely better defensively.
And Emerson really is quite a good defender. I never feel troubled when he is right back defending. Maybe we can keep him as a strictly defensive option but as for RWB it will never be for him
 

djhotspur

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I know it is not a popular opinion but I thought Emerson looked excellent during the last 15 mins or so playing RCB. He was covering a lot of ground and recycling the ball well. Get rid of Sanchez and make Emerson the backup RCB and then let Spence loose as the WB.
I’m inclined to agree. He’s decent defensively he’s actually fairly good on the ball and is a big lad. He could play rcb.
 

Trix

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Conte doesn't want to use Spence who is an actual wing back so I doubt he'd be too keen on Aurier. He values caution over unpredictability.
Well he never has at any other team he's been at. Perhaps that says something about the options you are proposing, or about our current CB's that he feels need more cover than where he's been before.

Perhaps though he just doesn't feel it's fair to shove a young inexperienced kid in the side with our fan base at present. I mean as of now he hasn't played and so is the second coming of Dani Alves, but 2 mistakes in and he'll be on the shit heap like the rest of them.
 

Freddie

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Well he never has at any other team he's been at. Perhaps that says something about the options you are proposing, or about our current CB's that he feels need more cover than where he's been before.

Perhaps though he just doesn't feel it's fair to shove a young inexperienced kid in the side with our fan base at present. I mean as of now he hasn't played and so is the second coming of Dani Alves, but 2 mistakes in and he'll be on the shit heap like the rest of them.
This couldn't be more wrong. He has always favoured safe wing backs. Even guys who were converted wingers stuck to high-percentage plays. The obvious exception was Hakimi at Inter but he was the best wing back in the world so had a licence to take on players.

He might be justified in not playing Spence for the reasons you stated but I don't see why he'd prefer Aurier (which is the point I made). Aurier had experience but it rarely told on the pitch. He was regularly rash and error-prone.
 

Dazzazzad

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I’m inclined to agree. He’s decent defensively he’s actually fairly good on the ball and is a big lad. He could play rcb.

Same, would love to see him get more time there. It maximizes his strengths (except his incredible engine) and would limit his weaknesses.
 

YB123

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Still can't get my head full around Conte continuously playing Emerson in one of his most important positions. It's crazy.
 

brasil_spur

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I have no problem with anyone who doesn't think he's good enough for us, and argues that in a reasonable way.

You didn't do that. You called him a disgrace and said he offers nothing, which is just ridiculous.

I'm not trying to single you out especially here, but am absolutely sick of seeing the constant stream of posts in this forum calling our players shit/disgraceful etc
He's also a very decent player, just not for a system that relies on him being a creative wing back like Conte's does. Put him in a 4 at the back formation and he'd be a great player, able to get up the pitch a bit and then release to an attacking player.
 

mil1lion

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Still can't get my head full around Conte continuously playing Emerson in one of his most important positions. It's crazy.
It's hard to tell if he does favour him to Doherty. Before the injury Doherty appeared to be first choice. It took him some time to fully recover. He seems to be getting there now but I don't think he was ready to play 3 in a week. I still expect a level of rotation but expect we'll see more of Doherty now.
 

spurmin

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Well he never has at any other team he's been at. Perhaps that says something about the options you are proposing, or about our current CB's that he feels need more cover than where he's been before.

Perhaps though he just doesn't feel it's fair to shove a young inexperienced kid in the side with our fan base at present. I mean as of now he hasn't played and so is the second coming of Dani Alves, but 2 mistakes in and he'll be on the shit heap like the rest of them.
Doherty was on the shit heap for a long while. I regularly saw that he should never be seen in a Spurs shirt again. This is where we are getting with Emerson who is only 22. Already slated on here for any cross that’s not met by a bullet header or a misplaced pass, even though he has been decent in some games. You can hear the groans in the stadium.
 

Trix

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Doherty was on the shit heap for a long while. I regularly saw that he should never be seen in a Spurs shirt again. This is where we are getting with Emerson who is only 22. Already slated on here for any cross that’s not met by a bullet header or a misplaced pass, even though he has been decent in some games. You can hear the groans in the stadium.
For me Emerson is just well unspectacular, but that's fine because he's 22. He defends well enough, gets into decent positions, but is too cautious at times when he does. His final ball is lacking for sure but again he's 22. He certainly isn't that bad that he deserves the "disgrace" tag, because whatever else he does he always puts the work rate in, getting up and back. As someone else said earlier he isn't rapid quick and I think in some eyes that makes him shit. He isn't shit at all he's just as I say not spectacular. Trippier had the same issue with a lot of our fans, he wasn't Kyle walker quick and so he was "shit". Then he goes off to Athletico and wins La Liga and "we should never have sold him", despite being exactly the same player.
 

Nick

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For me Emerson is just well unspectacular, but that's fine because he's 22. He defends well enough, gets into decent positions, but is too cautious at times when he does. His final ball is lacking for sure but again he's 22. He certainly isn't that bad that he deserves the "disgrace" tag, because whatever else he does he always puts the work rate in, getting up and back. As someone else said earlier he isn't rapid quick and I think in some eyes that makes him shit. He isn't shit at all he's just as I say not spectacular. Trippier had the same issue with a lot of our fans, he wasn't Kyle walker quick and so he was "shit". Then he goes off to Athletico and wins La Liga and "we should never have sold him", despite being exactly the same player.
Not weighing in on the debate. Just informing he's nearly 24.
 
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