Player Watch: Erik Lamela

[coys200]

Purely fitness for me. If you could count on him I think he’s a very good player that brings unbelievable heart and passion and some fine shithousery.

 

[Bulletspur]

Just makes it more painful that probably our best AM in the Champions league this year, Lucas, who not only got a hat trick in the semi was dropped. Regardless of the performance and how it all panned out, when i saw he was on the bench i was devastated and i think it's the biggest mistake Poch has made whilst at the club (don't get me wrong i am a huge Poch fan but i still can't understand this). Still have no clue how Dele and Eriksen started over him in the final when their form was average at best.

100% this! Bit off topic but I am still fuming. Poch showed himself to me of being a hypocrite by not being brave as he like to spout. We had a winning streak or formula in Kane's absence, one that took us to CL finals lead ably by Lucas. Come the day he was not brave enough to tell Kane he would be on the bench and that Lucas would start. Especially when we had recent history of Kane being rushed back into the team resulting in us losing a winning streak (Burnley). Kane as good and as important as he is to the team, is not bigger than the club but it doesnt seem that Poch realizes this. Also Kane in my opinion acted selfishly by putting his ego and needs before the best interest of the club by stating he was ready to play when he clearly was not match fit. In that match our defence and defensive midfield played brilliantly and an on form Lucas and fit again Lamela (who was available) would have made us Champions of Europe instead of Liverpool in my opinion. I am really truly pissed with both Poch and Kane on this but I will get over it.

 

[TwanYid]

100% this! Bit off topic but I am still fuming. Poch showed himself to me of being a hypocrite by not being brave as he like to spout. We had a winning streak or formula in Kane's absence, one that took us to CL finals lead ably by Lucas. Come the day he was not brave enough to tell Kane he would be on the bench and that Lucas would start. Especially when we had recent history of Kane being rushed back into the team resulting in us losing a winning streak (Burnley). Kane as good and as important as he is to the team, is not bigger than the club but it doesnt seem that Poch realizes this. Also Kane in my opinion acted selfishly by putting his ego and needs before the best interest of the club by stating he was ready to play when he clearly was not match fit. In that match our defence and defensive midfield played brilliantly and an on form Lucas and fit again Lamela (who was available) would have made us Champions of Europe instead of Liverpool in my opinion. I am really truly pissed with both Poch and Kane on this but I will get over it.

Words cannot DESCRIBE how much I agree with this post. Lucas and Lamela would’ve done what so few of our attackers did in that game: namely, attack.

 

[Blake Griffin]

poch started the right team imo, you can't legislate for conceding a penalty after 20 seconds.

 

[Vincent30]

poch started the right team imo, you can't legislate for conceding a penalty after 20 seconds.

Poch chose a team based on reputation not form unfortunately, but i'll move on. He will learn way more from that day than me as a fan. Looking forward to next season if we spend the money in a good way and bring in what is needed.

 

[TheVoiceofReason]

poch started the right team imo, you can't legislate for conceding a penalty after 20 seconds.

Poch was wrong to drop Moura for Kane.

Kane is the best striker I've ever seen at Spurs, but he was always going to play a stinker rushing back from injury. Can't blame the penalty- Kane was crap all game and deep down we all knew he would be.

 

[Blake Griffin]

Poch was wrong to drop Moura for Kane.

Kane is the best striker I've ever seen at Spurs, but he was always going to play a stinker rushing back from injury. Can't blame the penalty- Kane was crap all game and deep down we all knew he would be.

winks had been out just as long as kane and was one of our best players, thems the breaks. neither eriksen or dele were better than kane, son wasn't great either. of course the penalty is relevant, if lucas starts you still go 1-0 down inside a minute and i doubt the game goes any differently, we started with lucas up top against ajax and were doing terribly until llorente came on, something which seems to have been forgotten. lucas is a good option and has had his moments but he's not shown enough over the course of the season to say he's part of the best 11, he had an amazing 45 minutes but that's not enough to start over our best player if he's ready - how ready he was only the management will know for sure. lucas didn't exactly add much when he came on either. unfortunately there were just too many mediocre performances across the park that day that swapping one player for another at the top of it would have had little effect on the outcome.

 

[TheVoiceofReason]

winks had been out just as long as kane and was one of our best players, thems the breaks. neither eriksen or dele were better than kane, son wasn't great either. of course the penalty is relevant, if lucas starts you still go 1-0 down inside a minute and i doubt the game goes any differently, we started with lucas up top against ajax and were doing terribly until llorente came on, something which seems to have been forgotten. lucas is a good option and has had his moments over the season but he's not shown enough over the course of the season to say he's part of the best 11, he had an amazing 45 minutes but that's not enough to start over our best player if he's ready - how ready he was only the management will know for sure. lucas didn't exactly add much when he came on either. unfortunately there were just too many mediocre performances across the park that day that swapping one player for another at the top of it would have had little effect on the outcome.

I take your point, but disagree. Lucas was huge for us throughout the CL. Guess neither of us are quite over it yet

 

[ralvy]

You realise I'm gonna keep re-quoting your post when one of them scores or does something extraordinary

Nah, you only get to do that if either of them get to pull of a good performance in a CL final or a league title defining match.

 

[Gilzeanking]

I take your point, but disagree. Lucas was huge for us throughout the CL. Guess neither of us are quite over it yet

Me neither , Moura out of Final starting 11 ...still can't get my head round it..

 

[SteveH]

Suck it up people!
Then move on!
It's history.

 

[ralvy]

Suck it up people!
Then move on!
It's history.

At least give us until pre season to get our heads right, please.

 

[Shadydan]

Nah, you only get to do that if either of them get to pull of a good performance in a CL final or a league title defining match.

Yep scoring or playing well in the CL final is the only time that makes a player reliable which means 95% of professional footballers are useless in Ralvy's world - insane logic. ?

 

[ralvy]

Yep scoring or playing well in the CL final is the only time that makes a player reliable which means 95% of professional footballers are useless in Ralvy's world - insane logic. ?

Rather, finals are what separates actual reliable players from the chokers.

Look, I love all four of Harry, Christian, Dele and Son but, fact is, they all collectively chocked in the CL final and now I don't know if I can ever trust them to lead us all the way. But, hey, this is a trial and error game, so here's hoping this experience helps them to get rid of their natural chocking tendencies (will THFC ever get to see the benefits from that is a whole different matter though).

 

[Bulletspur]

winks had been out just as long as kane and was one of our best players,

Yes and his inclusion in the team was warranted as we played with a shaky midfield in both quarter and semifinals. Our front line on the other hand was on form so didnt need to be tweaked just to include an out form Kane.

The starting 11 should be picked on form and not on reputation or sentiments which your opinion would suggest

 

[tooey]

Rather, finals are what separates actual reliable players from the chokers.

Look, I love all four of Harry, Christian, Dele and Son but, fact is, they all collectively chocked in the CL final and now I don't know if I can ever trust them to lead us all the way. But, hey, this is a trial and error game, so here's hoping this experience helps them to get rid of their natural chocking tendencies (will THFC ever get to see the benefits from that is a whole different matter though).

Congratulations ralvy, you've pissed me off and it's only 6.30 on a Monday morning.

You're a shit fan and a terrible person.

 

[Gilzeanking]

Rather, finals are what separates actual reliable players from the chokers.

Look, I love all four of Harry, Christian, Dele and Son but, fact is, they all collectively chocked in the CL final

For me this isn't exactly how I see it . My primary disagreement is with Harry . He played exactly like he's played for most of 2019 , not choking . His inclusion in starting line-up was an insane decision , he then played as badly as before in 2019 so Final a continuation of his form .
CE put in a typical performance from this year too . He wants to go to RM so would have been doubly anxious to play well there in Final .
Not a chock for me...more of his continuing poor 2019 form.

Dele ? again continuation of form for me..poor form not a chock . He generally need to sort himself out , England are not starting him anymore , for good reason.
Finally Sonny . He has a history this year of fading out of games where our 2019 flatfooted Kane is playing . Its part of the Kane starting madness for me . Sonny went into his shell a bit rather than expressing himself as he has done in previous rounds . A chock ?
well maybe a half chock (OK chock joke is running thin !...its choke )

 

[SteveH]

At least give us until pre season to get our heads right, please.

Thats a lifetime! Nah get back on the horse. There is fantastic footy being played by the girls and U21’s not just that we have the cricket world cup. Soon be preseason!
Cheer up!

 

[Blake Griffin]

Yes and his inclusion in the team was warranted as we played with a shaky midfield in both quarter and semifinals. Our front line on the other hand was on form so didnt need to be tweaked just to include an out form Kane.

The starting 11 should be picked on form and not on reputation or sentiments which your opinion would suggest

how was that front line on form? our form without kane was shocking. how many games did we win in his absence? lucas' form was 45 minutes and that was only once llorente was on the field, he did nothing when it was him supported by son which is apparently what we should have started with. kane was not out of form, he was injured, are you not going to start him first game of next season then?

 

[longtimespur]

Thought chocking and chocks were for airplanes and choking or choke was what was intended in these replies
Not really a pedantic person