Player Watch: Erik Lamela
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Syn_13
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After seeing some of the posts about Chadli after 3 games I bloody hope we do too.
JerryGarcia
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Didn't his brother come over with him? He spoke fluent English on Twitter before the transfer.
SonicSarr
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He seemed to settle ok in Italy at a younger age and the club looks after this sort of thing. We will not leave our 30m investment in a bedsit rocking back and forth missing home. He'll be more than fine (Optimistic punt 1)
...and he'll score tomorrow (Optimistic punt 2)
...and he'll score tomorrow (Optimistic punt 2)
Ghost Hardware
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Both Spanish and Italian are Latin based languages so it would have been easier for him to pick up a basic understanding of the local language even if he never managed to beciome fluent. English is very different. But people always say football is a universal language so hopefully he will be ok, although I am sure it would have helped to have Falqué and Ceballos around as they are both nearer his age then Soldado.
Spurs 1961
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Me thinks AVB is trying to shield Lamela from too much expectation too soon as the replacement for Bale. I think he will become our most important player but it is smart to protect him from too much hype
IMissTheWaddler
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Great Article
Roma sporting director Walter Sabatini has revealed the reasons why he sold Erik Lamela to Tottenham.
The Argentine international moved to the Premiership outfit this summer in a €30m deal, but that only happened after an Italian club – thought to be Napoli – had made a move for him.
“It was a painful sale for all of us,” Sabatini, who preferred to move him on to a foreign side, noted on Friday.
“At the beginning we didn’t think we could sell Erik and we didn’t want to. Then some new factors came into play and as time went on we started to consider the eventuality.
“A club made him an offer that we didn’t and couldn’t match. And rather than trying to win a war that we probably wouldn’t, we opted to sell.
“When that Italian club offered him €3.5m a season, as well as a €2mcommission to his agent father, we knew we had lost the player.
“His people started pushing for a renewal and that is when I started moves to sell him. Had we begun negotiations sooner then we probably could have sold him for an even bigger fee…”
As well as sacrificing Lamela, Sabatini also sold Marquinhos to Paris Saint-Germain and Pablo Daniel Osvaldo to Southampton.
“No one obliged me to sell. But it was a tough market because it came after the Coppa Italia Final loss, there was a compromised psychological dimension and we had to rebuild with what was left to us.
“However, the market was concluded satisfactorily and we are sure we have built a competitive team.
“We didn’t sell the future, we sold shreds of the future,” he reiterated. “We also signed players by spending important figures and there are still young players of value in the squad.
“Roma are not a selling club. We are working with the objective of being competitive.”
Sabatini is now the main man in the capital after director general Franco Baldini left for a new experience at Tottenham.
“Franco behaved well,” he added. “He knew that we were after certain players, but he only made moves for them after we had left them alone.
“I feel freer in my work without having Baldini, a great friend, by my side. He is certainly thriving with my absence, he seems rejuvenated at Tottenham.”
http://www.football-italia.net/39439/roma-explain-sale-lamela?
Roma sporting director Walter Sabatini has revealed the reasons why he sold Erik Lamela to Tottenham.
The Argentine international moved to the Premiership outfit this summer in a €30m deal, but that only happened after an Italian club – thought to be Napoli – had made a move for him.
“It was a painful sale for all of us,” Sabatini, who preferred to move him on to a foreign side, noted on Friday.
“At the beginning we didn’t think we could sell Erik and we didn’t want to. Then some new factors came into play and as time went on we started to consider the eventuality.
“A club made him an offer that we didn’t and couldn’t match. And rather than trying to win a war that we probably wouldn’t, we opted to sell.
“When that Italian club offered him €3.5m a season, as well as a €2mcommission to his agent father, we knew we had lost the player.
“His people started pushing for a renewal and that is when I started moves to sell him. Had we begun negotiations sooner then we probably could have sold him for an even bigger fee…”
As well as sacrificing Lamela, Sabatini also sold Marquinhos to Paris Saint-Germain and Pablo Daniel Osvaldo to Southampton.
“No one obliged me to sell. But it was a tough market because it came after the Coppa Italia Final loss, there was a compromised psychological dimension and we had to rebuild with what was left to us.
“However, the market was concluded satisfactorily and we are sure we have built a competitive team.
“We didn’t sell the future, we sold shreds of the future,” he reiterated. “We also signed players by spending important figures and there are still young players of value in the squad.
“Roma are not a selling club. We are working with the objective of being competitive.”
Sabatini is now the main man in the capital after director general Franco Baldini left for a new experience at Tottenham.
“Franco behaved well,” he added. “He knew that we were after certain players, but he only made moves for them after we had left them alone.
“I feel freer in my work without having Baldini, a great friend, by my side. He is certainly thriving with my absence, he seems rejuvenated at Tottenham.”
http://www.football-italia.net/39439/roma-explain-sale-lamela?
easley91
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He's pictured laughing and joking with non-Spanish speakers at the link below. Think he'll be fine.
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/xtra-all-smiles-at-the-photocall-130913/
WexfordTownSpur
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I think this agian shows the need to buy early, yes we bought a couple early on, but once again we left our best signings too late - and especially if they are not native speakers and from other leagues. Surly we knew who that our targets would be of this type, so once again we left it too late - If they had all come in around the same time or even before Soldado we could have hit the ground running, maybe even beat or at least drawn with the ARSE.
I know people will say football isn't like that and to get the price you wont there is a lot of negotiation - sorry but seems to me, we paid top dollar for all of our players this year, so for me that is BS, we were just to slow again.
TheAmerican
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He's pictured laughing and joking with non-Spanish speakers at the link below. Think he'll be fine.
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/xtra-all-smiles-at-the-photocall-130913/
He can still assimilate with our Brazilians. At Liverpool, all of the South Americans get together. The cultures are similar, and Portuguese is not extremely far off from Spanish. The languages have a a mutual intelligibility, meaning you can relatively understand the other language if you speak one of them. The South Americans are also known for speaking imperfect Spanish and Portuguese, and the mixture of the two there is known as Portuñol.
Kendall
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I agree. Whilst we have a fit Townsend I think Lamela will be the one we take the most time over integrating.
Basil Brush
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Hold on a sec. No way we paid dollar for eriksen? In the article, earlier on this page, Sabatini says they wanted more for lamela than we paid. Capoue and chadli seemed bargains. Paulinho and vlad are also possible bargains if you look at the alternatives like ferdinandho (spelling, man city) and sakho (liverpool). Only one that seemed high was soldado and that was due to a release clause and our desperate need for a striker.
We had an unbelievable window, price wise, especially if you include what we got for bale.
cozzo
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The mind boggles. Incredible.
beals
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"Boom Boom!!"
Have to agree with Basil.
We got the best we could in the time frame we had, while getting value for money spend. (I hope/think so, time will tell)
We bought early when we could, of course AVB & the rest would love all our buys to arrive on 1st day of pre-season, but unfortunately it doesn't work like that in reality.
When the season ended I expected Bale to stay & we'd have 2 maybe three additions + replacements.
Even though Gareth had gone (& good luck to him) I think this window has been amazing, & can't wait to see our new team evolve.
Flashspur
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top dollar, I dont think so - read this
http://hereisthecity.com/2013/09/13/jl-tottenhams-lamela-is-a-better-signing-than-wiliian/
New Chelsea signing Willian has revealed he ‘always wanted to go to Chelsea’ despite courting interest from Tottenham shortly before his move to Stamford Bridge.
The 25-year-old Brazilian midfielder explained his decision to move to the Blues this summer from Anzhi Makhachkala ahead of Spurs, stating categorically that the West Londoners are ‘better’ than the North Londoners.
“I always wanted to go to Chelsea. Chelsea presented an offer and it was always my dream to go there,” said Willian.
“Chelsea is a better club than Tottenham in every aspect. I have spoken with my fellow Brazilians at the club, especially David Luiz. I am also happy to play for Jose Mourinho. That was definitive in my decision.”
Whilst his remarks are somewhat predictable of a new signing – he couldn’t exactly say he’d have preferred Spurs, could he? – Spurs fans need not fret or bother – it was because of the club’s failure to sign Willian that they instead signed Erik Lamela from Roma.
It is my firm belief the 21-year-old Argentine is a much better signing of a higher technical quality than Willian who is four years the Spurs man’s senior. The Brazilian spent the majority of his career at Shakhtar Donetsk prior to his recent move to Russia in January.
It’s almost ironic – I wrote a piece back in January asserting that Willian may well regret his hasty move to Anzhi in January this year and, in a way, that prophecy became a reality in just a matter of months.
With all due respect to Shakhtar who have been involved in the Champions League and are the Ukrainian champions for the last three years in succession, the quality level and intensity of the Ukrainian Premier League is nowhere near the level of the English Premier League or Serie A where young Lamela has been learning and plying his trade.
In his time at Shakhtar, Willian was never a high scorer particularly – his figures in the league never reached above five goals per season and his overall totals never reached ten goals per season over the course of his six seasons in Ukraine. His stock seemed to skyrocket in his final term with Shakhtar, not only due to his performance against Chelsea, but due to his sudden form – he scored four goals in six Champions League games.
However, upon moving to Russia his form dropped considerably – he scored just one goal last term following his €35 million move and that remains his only goal for the club, despite his three appearances this term prior to his move to Stamford Bridge.
Chelsea paid £30 million to sign him from Anzhi – the same fee, incidentally, Spurs paid for Lamela. Pound for pound, I think it’s clear Tottenham got the better deal.
In one of the toughest and, frankly, most defensive leagues in the world, Lamela scored 15 goals and made 6 assists for Roma last term. He outshone the likes of Francesco Totti, and Miralem Pjanic and was their second-highest scorer.
He was the fifth highest scorer in Serie A – beating Stevan Jovetic, Mario Balotelli, and his Argentina teammate Rodrigo Palacio and on a par with Miroslav Klose, despite the fact he’s actually an attacking midfielder or winger and most of those are centre-forwards, of more experience and maturity than Lamela.
Lamela only arrived in the Italian capital in 2011 from River Plate – the former stomping ground of Alexis Sanchez, Radamel Falcao, Gonzalo Higuain, Javier Mascherano, Martin Demichelis, Esteban Cambiasso, Hernan Crespo, Ariel Ortega, and Gabriel Batistuta – the club’s former students reads like a who’s who of Argentina’s finest exports of which Lamela is certain to become.
The youngster came through the development system at the Buenos Aires-based club in his hometown as a local boy with a big future ahead of him.
Wiliian began his development at another highly-esteemed South American institute, Corinthians in Brazil but he jumped the gun somewhat with his move to Ukraine (a pattern of behaviour prevalent in his career) – he’d yet to play a full season for Corinthians in his two years at senior level and after scoring just twice, he upped sticks for Shakhtar.
Willian didn’t earn his first cap for Brazil until 2011 at the age of 23 – both friendly matches – and he hasn’t been selected since. Lamela, meanwhile, made his debut for Argentina that same year in 2011 at the age of 18 and has been included again this year in their qualifiers for the World Cup next year.
The youngster’s career trajectory is most certainly on its way upwards – he’s a rising star – where Willian’s career is a case of trying to keep up and often finding himself having pushed too hard too soon. His chances at Chelsea this season will likely decide whether or not he ever gets another call up for Brazil and whether he features in the World Cup they host next summer.
But he’ll have his work cut out for him, competing for his place on the left flank predominantly with the likes of Eden Hazard and Andre Schurrle. Lamela comes in to White Hart Lane to effectively replace the PFA and PWA Player of the Year.
He’ll have a fantastic opportunity under Andre Villas-Boas to prove his worth to the Argentina national team coach Alejandro Sabella who, intriguingly, and in a story that comes full circle, began his own professional career at River Plate before moving to England where he plied his trade for Sheffield United and Leeds.
http://hereisthecity.com/2013/09/13/jl-tottenhams-lamela-is-a-better-signing-than-wiliian/
New Chelsea signing Willian has revealed he ‘always wanted to go to Chelsea’ despite courting interest from Tottenham shortly before his move to Stamford Bridge.
The 25-year-old Brazilian midfielder explained his decision to move to the Blues this summer from Anzhi Makhachkala ahead of Spurs, stating categorically that the West Londoners are ‘better’ than the North Londoners.
“I always wanted to go to Chelsea. Chelsea presented an offer and it was always my dream to go there,” said Willian.
“Chelsea is a better club than Tottenham in every aspect. I have spoken with my fellow Brazilians at the club, especially David Luiz. I am also happy to play for Jose Mourinho. That was definitive in my decision.”
Whilst his remarks are somewhat predictable of a new signing – he couldn’t exactly say he’d have preferred Spurs, could he? – Spurs fans need not fret or bother – it was because of the club’s failure to sign Willian that they instead signed Erik Lamela from Roma.
It is my firm belief the 21-year-old Argentine is a much better signing of a higher technical quality than Willian who is four years the Spurs man’s senior. The Brazilian spent the majority of his career at Shakhtar Donetsk prior to his recent move to Russia in January.
It’s almost ironic – I wrote a piece back in January asserting that Willian may well regret his hasty move to Anzhi in January this year and, in a way, that prophecy became a reality in just a matter of months.
With all due respect to Shakhtar who have been involved in the Champions League and are the Ukrainian champions for the last three years in succession, the quality level and intensity of the Ukrainian Premier League is nowhere near the level of the English Premier League or Serie A where young Lamela has been learning and plying his trade.
In his time at Shakhtar, Willian was never a high scorer particularly – his figures in the league never reached above five goals per season and his overall totals never reached ten goals per season over the course of his six seasons in Ukraine. His stock seemed to skyrocket in his final term with Shakhtar, not only due to his performance against Chelsea, but due to his sudden form – he scored four goals in six Champions League games.
However, upon moving to Russia his form dropped considerably – he scored just one goal last term following his €35 million move and that remains his only goal for the club, despite his three appearances this term prior to his move to Stamford Bridge.
Chelsea paid £30 million to sign him from Anzhi – the same fee, incidentally, Spurs paid for Lamela. Pound for pound, I think it’s clear Tottenham got the better deal.
In one of the toughest and, frankly, most defensive leagues in the world, Lamela scored 15 goals and made 6 assists for Roma last term. He outshone the likes of Francesco Totti, and Miralem Pjanic and was their second-highest scorer.
He was the fifth highest scorer in Serie A – beating Stevan Jovetic, Mario Balotelli, and his Argentina teammate Rodrigo Palacio and on a par with Miroslav Klose, despite the fact he’s actually an attacking midfielder or winger and most of those are centre-forwards, of more experience and maturity than Lamela.
Lamela only arrived in the Italian capital in 2011 from River Plate – the former stomping ground of Alexis Sanchez, Radamel Falcao, Gonzalo Higuain, Javier Mascherano, Martin Demichelis, Esteban Cambiasso, Hernan Crespo, Ariel Ortega, and Gabriel Batistuta – the club’s former students reads like a who’s who of Argentina’s finest exports of which Lamela is certain to become.
The youngster came through the development system at the Buenos Aires-based club in his hometown as a local boy with a big future ahead of him.
Wiliian began his development at another highly-esteemed South American institute, Corinthians in Brazil but he jumped the gun somewhat with his move to Ukraine (a pattern of behaviour prevalent in his career) – he’d yet to play a full season for Corinthians in his two years at senior level and after scoring just twice, he upped sticks for Shakhtar.
Willian didn’t earn his first cap for Brazil until 2011 at the age of 23 – both friendly matches – and he hasn’t been selected since. Lamela, meanwhile, made his debut for Argentina that same year in 2011 at the age of 18 and has been included again this year in their qualifiers for the World Cup next year.
The youngster’s career trajectory is most certainly on its way upwards – he’s a rising star – where Willian’s career is a case of trying to keep up and often finding himself having pushed too hard too soon. His chances at Chelsea this season will likely decide whether or not he ever gets another call up for Brazil and whether he features in the World Cup they host next summer.
But he’ll have his work cut out for him, competing for his place on the left flank predominantly with the likes of Eden Hazard and Andre Schurrle. Lamela comes in to White Hart Lane to effectively replace the PFA and PWA Player of the Year.
He’ll have a fantastic opportunity under Andre Villas-Boas to prove his worth to the Argentina national team coach Alejandro Sabella who, intriguingly, and in a story that comes full circle, began his own professional career at River Plate before moving to England where he plied his trade for Sheffield United and Leeds.
Flashspur
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and this......
http://www.givemesport.com/380198-r...-forced-by-rival-serie-a-interest?autoplay=on
AS Roma director of football Walter Sabatini has revealed the reason behind Erik Lamela's transfer to Tottenham Hotspur, saying that interest from a rival Serie 'A' club forced them to sell, reports the Daily Express.
The 21-year-old winger arrived in north London in a club-record £30million deal, brought in as a replacement for Gareth Bale, who joined Real Madrid for a world-record fee.
Spurs boss Andre Villas-Boas was delighted to welcome the Argentina international to White Hart Lane, but the move might never have transpired, had the unnamed Italian outfit had an offer accepted by Roma.
"What were the factors that led to us selling Erik? We wanted to give him a pay rise but then another Italian club pounced on him," explained Sabatini.
"Erik had a massive deal on the table and that's when we lost him, he became unsettled here. That's why we sold him."
Keen not to strengthen a domestic rival, Roma accepted the only offer they had from a foreign suitor, but only allowed Lamela to leave Stadio Olimpico once they had sounded out a viable replacement.
"We'd never considered selling Lamela before but a number of new factors came into play and altered the scenario," continued the Roma chief.
"A club made a big offer, making it difficult to renegotiate his contract, and at that point we decided to sell.
"Lamela was sold once we realized we could sign a player of similar quality, [Adem] Ljajic, at a very good price."
The arrival of former Roma director Franco Baldini at Tottenham meant the Premier League club were well placed to negotiate a move for Lamela.
http://www.givemesport.com/380198-r...-forced-by-rival-serie-a-interest?autoplay=on
AS Roma director of football Walter Sabatini has revealed the reason behind Erik Lamela's transfer to Tottenham Hotspur, saying that interest from a rival Serie 'A' club forced them to sell, reports the Daily Express.
The 21-year-old winger arrived in north London in a club-record £30million deal, brought in as a replacement for Gareth Bale, who joined Real Madrid for a world-record fee.
Spurs boss Andre Villas-Boas was delighted to welcome the Argentina international to White Hart Lane, but the move might never have transpired, had the unnamed Italian outfit had an offer accepted by Roma.
"What were the factors that led to us selling Erik? We wanted to give him a pay rise but then another Italian club pounced on him," explained Sabatini.
"Erik had a massive deal on the table and that's when we lost him, he became unsettled here. That's why we sold him."
Keen not to strengthen a domestic rival, Roma accepted the only offer they had from a foreign suitor, but only allowed Lamela to leave Stadio Olimpico once they had sounded out a viable replacement.
"We'd never considered selling Lamela before but a number of new factors came into play and altered the scenario," continued the Roma chief.
"A club made a big offer, making it difficult to renegotiate his contract, and at that point we decided to sell.
"Lamela was sold once we realized we could sign a player of similar quality, [Adem] Ljajic, at a very good price."
The arrival of former Roma director Franco Baldini at Tottenham meant the Premier League club were well placed to negotiate a move for Lamela.
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