Player Watch: Erik Lamela

[dontsalebale]

The blind cannot see. Given Spurs failed to score, one can argue the whole team have zero substance. Dont waste time explaining colours to the blind.

The surreal world that is the Eric Lamela thread. When they run out of defensive stratagems for wonderboy they resort to this bollocks

 

[Shea]

The blind cannot see. Given Spurs failed to score, one can argue the whole team have zero substance. Dont waste time explaining colours to the blind.

Don't be so obnoxious and dismissive of others opinions

This is a football fan forum and we're here as fans to discuss our views with our fellow fans, not just those who agree with us

If you think Lamela had a good game today that's fine

Personally I don't think he did, I think he failed to produce anything of note in terms of chances for himself or team mates and looked a little bit off the pace (also leaving Walker more exposed on the right flank than he usually does suggesting his work defensively was below the standard he normally achieves)

People say he could have won a penalty, perhaps I would need to view this incident again but I never thought it was close to being a penalty at the time and would have been very very soft had it been given

As for the other players not producing anything of substance - I agree, as an attacking force in general we were poor and no one really had a good game today

But I don't get this attitude of calling people blind and suggesting time shouldn't be wasted discussing with us/them just because you have a different view point as if you're intrinsically correct and anyone who disagrees is fundamentally wrong, it's a game of opinions

 

[muppetman]

There was not a lot of space for him to work with today - or anyone else. Sometimes you have to give credit to the opposition, it's not always a failure of our players - or at least not solely.

I didn't think he had a great game today and there was a moment when we had a break on that his lack of pace was shown up quite clearly. However, he was (marginally) better than Ali and Erikson.

 

[Shea]

There was not a lot of space for him to work with today - or anyone else. Sometimes you have to give credit to the opposition, it's not always a failure of our players - or at least not solely.

I didn't think he had a great game today and there was a moment when we had a break on that his lack of pace was shown up quite clearly. However, he was (marginally) better than Ali and Erikson.

I give a lot of credit to Bournemouth, they looked a very good and well organised team today

My concern is that more than one team has done this to us now, press us hard when we have the ball and deny us space in the attacking third

when this happens we seem to get completely thrown off our game, we no longer produce any chances to speak of and most if not all of our efforts become long range individual shots. It becomes very AVB like

I hope it's not a pattern that continues (to be fair we did create chances against WBA first half)

 

[Bobbins]

Don't be so obnoxious and dismissive of others opinions

This is a football fan forum and we're here as fans to discuss our views with our fellow fans, not just those who agree with us

If you think Lamela had a good game today that's fine

Personally I don't think he did, I think he failed to produce anything of note in terms of chances for himself or team mates and looked a little bit off the pace (also leaving Walker more exposed on the right flank than he usually does suggesting his work defensively was below the standard he normally achieves)

People say he could have won a penalty, perhaps I would need to view this incident again but I never thought it was close to being a penalty at the time and would have been very very soft had it been given

As for the other players not producing anything of substance - I agree, as an attacking force in general we were poor and no one really had a good game today

But I don't get this attitude of calling people blind and suggesting time shouldn't be wasted discussing with us/them just because you have a different view point as if you're intrinsically correct and anyone who disagrees is fundamentally wrong, it's a game of opinions

How can a guy hit the post from 20 yards and "fail to produce anything of note"?

 

[Bobbins]

There was not a lot of space for him to work with today - or anyone else. Sometimes you have to give credit to the opposition, it's not always a failure of our players - or at least not solely.

I didn't think he had a great game today and there was a moment when we had a break on that his lack of pace was shown up quite clearly. However, he was (marginally) better than Ali and Erikson.

This lack of pace thing always makes me laugh - he was in no way slower than the two defenders he was up against, he got the ball, turned inside one defender and would've been clean through if not for a second defender also challenging him at the same time.

None of it had anything to do with pace and 99/100 strikers would've failed to score there as it was 2v1.

 

[muppetman]

I give a lot of credit to Bournemouth, they looked a very good and well organised team today

My concern is that more than one team has done this to us now, press us hard when we have the ball and deny us space in the attacking third

when this happens we seem to get completely thrown off our game, we no longer produce any chances to speak of and most if not all of our efforts become long range individual shots. It becomes very AVB like

I hope it's not a pattern that continues (to be fair we did create chances against WBA first half)

Good post.

At the start of the season, many people said this would be a much more competitive with almost any club able to take points off any other. I think that is what we are seeing here. We've also had quite a few injuries so early in the season - for example I think we missed Toby's distribution almost as much as his defending today.

I think we did create chances - Lamela should have done better with his and Ali had a couple of shots blocked. Bournemouth pretty much kept Son out of the game which obviously limited us. I think the right sub would have been to remove Lamela or Eriksen and bring on Janssen to play up top with Son then able to cut in from the left but Poch knows best.

I'm not one to put any of our players down and everyone deserves a chance but I'm struggling to see the point of Sissoko.

 

[muppetman]

This lack of pace thing always makes me laugh - he was in no way slower than the two defenders he was up against, he got the ball, turned inside one defender and would've been clean through if not for a second defender also challenging him at the same time.

None of it had anything to do with pace and 99/100 strikers would've failed to score there as it was 2v1.

I'd need to see it again but I remember it as a breakaway and that the defenders caught up with him?

You don't think that (for example) GKN would have beaten both defenders with his pace? I think the pace argument is overused as the ball generally travels faster than anyone can run but there are times when it matters and this was one of them. It doesn't make Lamela shit and he has other qualities to compensate but that was a chance that went begging due to a lack of pace - in my opinion of course.

 

[Shea]

How can a guy hit the post from 20 yards and "fail to produce anything of note"?

I suppose because in my view it never looked like going in so never got me off my seat or made me think we might score

It looked (to me) to be going wide and not causing the keeper trouble and I was surprised that it hit the post (rather than thinking it might be going in an registering it in my mind as a close miss)

 

[Dennism]

I thought Lamela was the most creative player on the pitch today. Unlucky not to force the win.

 

[Shea]

I'm not one to put any of our players down and everyone deserves a chance but I'm struggling to see the point of Sissoko.

After that elbow I know a number of Muay Thai coaches who would love him in their stable to be fair

 

[kaz Hirai]

Didn't watch the game, but since this seems to be the must active thread I assume it was all lamela's fault we didn't win as usual.
Everyone else was amazing except him?

 

[HildoSpur]

He played pretty well today and was probably our most effective attacking player throughout the match. Still not in great form though but at least he was better today.

 

[Shea]

Didn't watch the game, but since this seems to be the must active thread I assume it was all lamela's fault we didn't win as usual.
Everyone else was amazing except him?

He was no worse than any of our other attacking players

We really failed to unlock them and produce any real chances other than solo efforts that would have required a pretty top class goal to go in

 

[Bobbins]

I'd need to see it again but I remember it as a breakaway and that the defenders caught up with him?

You don't think that (for example) GKN would have beaten both defenders with his pace? I think the pace argument is overused as the ball generally travels faster than anyone can run but there are times when it matters and this was one of them. It doesn't make Lamela shit and he has other qualities to compensate but that was a chance that went begging due to a lack of pace - in my opinion of course.

It was a through ball and the defenders started barely behind him, the ball was travelling at an angle to the goal, and name me a situation where the defenders don't catch a striker with the ball? Travelling with the ball is by default slower than running without it.

 

[muppetman]

It was a through ball and the defenders started barely behind him, the ball was travelling at an angle to the goal, and name me a situation where the defenders don't catch a striker with the ball? Travelling with the ball is by default slower than running without it.

Was going to post a Gareth Bale pic but thought I'd get into bother with the mods.

 

[stevensthfc]

I thought Lamela was the most creative player on the pitch today. Unlucky not to force the win.

Exactly! Yes it doesn't always come off, but that's not a reason to stop and knock it sideways for 90 mins.
He was picking up some fantastic positions between the lines in the second half and on another day he would have a couple of assists.

Support him!

 

[faze_coys]

It is also hard being the creative player in a team that doesn't have a focal point.

Bet he can wait for Kane to be back

 

[Bobbins]

Was going to post a Gareth Bale pic but thought I'd get into bother with the mods.

To be fair that's a perfect example - Bale's ability to outpace defences even while carrying the ball is unique and one of the things which makes him world class.

 

[g_harry]

in fairness Lamela has not played anywhere near the standard of last season. Needs a rocket from Poch.