Player Watch: Erik Lamela

[Shea]

in fairness Lamela has not played anywhere near the standard of last season. Needs a rocket from Poch.

I don't think his reduced form is anything to do with motivation or decreased effort

Therefore I don't think a rocket is going to achieve anything

Perhaps he's fatigued mentally or physically and requires some active rest

Perhaps he's just sufferring from a lack of movement from his team mates and finding it hard to play those incisive passes that he plays so well when at his best

 

[EQP]

in fairness Lamela has not played anywhere near the standard of last season. Needs a rocket from Poch.

More like a 2 week break, he's clocked over 1000 miles in travelling during the summer and the international break. Needs to recharge and get back to his previous levels.

 

[bat-chain]

I'm a big Lamela fan and felt he played poorly.

But here's the thing, in the sky highlights I've just watched again he's at the heart of all our best stuff, now of course that's relative to a poor performance. But naming no names there are a couple of players you wouldn't know were on the pitch who barely feature at all.

Is he is poor form...yes
Does he deserve to be dropped... quite possibly
Does he ever hide... no
Are there other players in the team guilty of the same failings who get far less stick...undoubtedly.

 

[Hercules]

in fairness Lamela has not played anywhere near the standard of last season. Needs a rocket from Poch.

Don't say that.

 

[Francis Gibbs]

in fairness Lamela has not played anywhere near the standard of last season. Needs a rocket from Poch.

Careful fanboy @Bobbins will be after you

 

[E17yid]

Careful fanboy @Bobbins will be after you

I doubt it. The post you quoted admits that he had a good season last year. You think hes shit and has done nothing

 

[Francis Gibbs]

his lack of threat in the final third is embarrassing. He simply put continues to not offer anything near what he was bought for. I watch the quality Liverpool have in similar positions and Lamelas contribution in comparison is pathetic

 

[Francis Gibbs]

I doubt it. The post you quoted admits that he had a good season last year. You think hes shit and has done nothing

Any criticism whatsoever gets the irrational fanboys riled up

 

[SlotBadger]

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[E17yid]

Any criticism whatsoever gets the irrational fanboys riled up

That's just not true, for the most part. @UpTownSpur wrote a post on his pros and cons and it was well received and he hates lamela. I guess it's all about not coming across as a dick and recognising the good he does as well as the bad.

By the way, you still confident of Sissoko displacing lamela from the starting 11?

 

[Hercules]

his lack of threat in the final third is embarrassing. He simply put continues to not offer anything near what he was bought for. I watch the quality Liverpool have in similar positions and Lamelas contribution in comparison is pathetic

Lamela is better than Lallana? No he is not. Your points are balanced and valid. Similar to mine.

 

[Bobbins]

Careful fanboy @Bobbins will be after you

Except that I agree with him, I said so myself only a few days ago in a long-ish post about how Lamela has been on poor form, and have been saying it plenty elsewhere recently.

That's the difference between you and I Francis - I'm not completely blind to reality and do at least try and be objective, even if I don't always succeed. Anyone can see that Lamela has been on poor form lately and needs to improve to get back to his high standards of last season - the difference is that I can acknowledge where his form rises and falls like any other player, I can see the stuff he does well as well as the stuff he does badly, I'm not a fanboy at all, and I can do it without having to spam every thread with the same inane personal comments about him in every single thread.

The irony is of course that when you're not talking about him you're actually a good poster who I often give positive ratings, but your unhealthy obsession with Lamela and absolute wilful ignorance to any of his qualities ruins your interaction with this forum so often, and it's become painful and irritating to read.

 

[Eric_s]

I thought Lamela was the most creative player on the pitch today. Unlucky not to force the win.

We did not over run Bournemouth, beat them by multiple goals, Lamela did not dribble pass defenders and beat them with flair and pace countless times, he did not score nor create 10 clear cut goal scoring chances, so you are obviously wrong.

 

[Vincent30]

Lamela is better than Lallana? No he is not. Your points are balanced and valid. Similar to mine.

So the highest number of assists Lallana has achieved in one season is 6. Lamela had 7 in 14/15 and 9 last year, when he was 22 and 23 years old in a new country.

Lamela got 5 goals last year in the premier legaue compared to Lallana's 4.

I love how our fans take such awful view of players. This doesn't take into account his work rate and how much he fights for our team.

Yes the last couple of games he has been off form and Lallana has started this season well. But he is 28 years old compared to a 24 year old. I would take Lamela over Lallana any day. Have a little respect for the quality of our players rather than bash them.

You put Lamela in that Liverpool team with there pace and movement and he would be flying, he excels when we have runners and movement, other than the City game we seemed to keep playing with our backs to goal abd it's incredibly hard to create any clear cut chances.

He was average yesterday but always involved in all our key play, Eriksen and Alli sadly weren't.

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

I don't think his reduced form is anything to do with motivation or decreased effort

Therefore I don't think a rocket is going to achieve anything

Perhaps he's fatigued mentally or physically and requires some active rest

Perhaps he's just sufferring from a lack of movement from his team mates and finding it hard to play those incisive passes that he plays so well when at his best

I think Lamela is suffering from the exact same thing as Alli and Eriksen. They're badly missing Harry Kane.

 

[Hercules]

So the highest number of assists Lallana has achieved in one season is 6. Lamela had 7 in 14/15 and 9 last year, when he was 22 and 23 years old in a new country.

Lamela got 5 goals last year in the premier legaue compared to Lallana's 4.

I love how our fans take such awful view of players. This doesn't take into account his work rate and how much he fights for our team.

Yes the last couple of games he has been off form and Lallana has started this season well. But he is 28 years old compared to a 24 year old. I would take Lamela over Lallana any day. Have a little respect for the quality of our players rather than bash them.

You put Lamela in that Liverpool team with there pace and movement and he would be flying, he excels when we have runners and movement, other than the City game we seemed to keep playing with our backs to goal abd it's incredibly hard to create any clear cut chances.

He was average yesterday but always involved in all our key play, Eriksen and Alli sadly weren't.

I don't always agree with certain stats. Graeme Souness and Ary (Ech) does not neither. I will paraphrase their quote 'The naked eye does not lie'. The Lamela I saw at Roma is the one I would take over the Lamela I have seen even last season. Yes we can talk on his assists to defend his no goals ratio. You are now seriously saying that he is better than Coutinho, I now have reservations about how some of us with our understandable bias to our club clouds our judgment over another player outside of our club.

Eriksen has been poor for a very long time, and Alli was. This season the latter has given us goals whilst Eriksen should be benched. I believe that is a fair assessment by me. Lamela has this season disappointed me, whilst last season he pleased me, and I expected him to progress this season to the player that had the world talking about when he was at Roma. Sadly, as of yet I cannot support him, even if he has been the best of a bad bunch (3). If he cannot rise or surly his levels of last season with the talent he has-bench time.

 

[Vincent30]

I don't always agree with certain stats. Graeme Souness and Ary (Ech) does not neither. I will paraphrase their quote 'The naked eye does not lie'. The Lamela I saw at Roma is the one I would take over the Lamela I have seen even last season. Yes we can talk on his assists to defend his no goals ratio. You are now seriously saying that he is better than Coutinho, I now have reservations about how some of us with our understandable bias to our club clouds our judgment over another player outside of our club.

Eriksen has been poor for a very long time, and Alli was. This season the latter has given us goals whilst Eriksen should be benched. I believe that is a fair assessment by me. Lamela has this season disappointed me, whilst last season he pleased me, and I expected him to progress this season to the player that had the world talking about when he was at Roma. Sadly, as of yet I cannot support him, even if he has been the best of a bad bunch (3). If he cannot rise or surly his levels of last season with the talent he has-bench time.

Fair points.

Eriksen completely agree, feel he deserves bench time versus the quality of his performances this year.

Alli has been disappointing but is popping up with goals if nothing else.

The bad thing for Lamela is that he needs to play in the middle to get the best out of him. I didn't say he was better than Coutinho so not sure where that came from, your point was Lallana and i still believe Lamela is the better player. I don't understand your 'can talk assists to defend no goals ratio' when i clearly stated he scored more goals last year than Lallana? We can't compare Lamela in the italian league to this league, look at how Pogba has started he looks average. It's a completely different slower game over there.

TBH Countiho is far from consistent, he has a great game and a terrible game, more comparable to Eriksen for me. I'd take Isco over both of those in a heartbeat.

But yes all three AMs are missing Kane and the team has changed formations a few times this year and personal with Dembele out and now back in the fold.

My main frustration is people are quick to jump on Lamela when Eriksen has clearly been worse this season and Alli really hasn't been anything special.

 

[SugarRay]

Just because you don't particularly rate a Tottenham player doesn't automatically mean you don't support them when they play for us.

I support Lamela 100%, just as I do Eriksen too. I always want them to have great games and give their all etc

I just happen to think both are a level behind the very best in the league in their positions.

Someone like Coutinho would make such a huge difference to our attack.

 

[millsey]

Just because you don't particularly rate a Tottenham player doesn't automatically mean you don't support them when they play for us.

I support Lamela 100%, just as I do Eriksen too. I always want them to have great games and give their all etc

I just happen to think both are a level behind the very best in the league in their positions.

Someone like Coutinho would make such a huge difference to our attack.

Isco. NOT Sissoko. Problem in a nutshell

 

[Eric_s]

Lallana is better than Lamela?

Just because you don't particularly rate a Tottenham player doesn't automatically mean you don't support them when they play for us.

I support Lamela 100%, just as I do Eriksen too. I always want them to have great games and give their all etc

I just happen to think both are a level behind the very best in the league in their positions.

Someone like Coutinho would make such a huge difference to our attack.

Can you represent every poster and fan that have been posting Lamela is shite, no end products, slow etc etc etc?
Do you believe every one thinks and acts like you?
No?
You have your freedom to criticise others have their freedom to contradict.