Player Watch: Hugo Lloris

[Flashp]

Hugo never makes those errors?

Are you sure?

Im not saying Gazzas passing is faultless, but its darn more accurate than Lloris's.

Lloris consistantly puts our back 4 under pressure. Im not sure how that can be questionned.

Lloris' short passing and ball control is a lot better than Gazzas though. Yesterday he ballooned a simple pass to Rose out over the touchline, not to mention slicing the backpass from Rose up into the air for Winks and the approaching scum player to both fall over when going for the ball inside the box.

It always looks dangerous when Lloris make those short passes to the fullbacks, but they're usually precise passes, just not the wisest when the FB have no options with the ball.

 

[Flashp]

For the record I get your point and do agree with it also.

It's obvious how big an advantage it is for City to have Ederson, who can ping both short and long passes very precisely. It brings a whole other dimension to their play.

This is obviously not one of Lloris' strong points. I do think his short passing is unfairly criticized at times though. Technically he's good, but often the receiving player has no options with the ball, and ends up passing back to him.

 

[nedley]

Lloris' short passing and ball control is a lot better than Gazzas though. Yesterday he ballooned a simple pass to Rose out over the touchline, not to mention slicing the backpass from Rose up into the air for Winks and the approaching scum player to both fall over when going for the ball inside the box.

It always looks dangerous when Lloris make those short passes to the fullbacks, but they're usually precise passes, just not the wisest when the FB have no options with the ball.

I respectfully disagree. Lloris decision making is woefully poor and not always accurate and correctly weighted.

I'm gonna rewatch yesterdays match and look at Gazzas passing. But his passing isn't my point. My point is our future no 1 needs to be better than both.

 

[kaz Hirai]

What on earth is wrong with him the last year or so.

He's 32, he should be at the top of his goalkeeping power.

Still does a lot of good but making way to many mistakes and letting in way too many tame shots

 

[ralvy]

What on earth is wrong with him the last year or so.

He's 32, he should be at the top of his goalkeeping power.

Still does a lot of good but making way to many mistakes and letting in way too many tame shots

Those shots today weren't tame, and we totally deserved to lose with that piece of shit complacent performance we gave today. But sure, let's just make Hugo the scapegoat.

 

[al_pacino]

The second shot looked soft but he had no chance with it. The issues were in front of him.

 

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

Obviously not the biggest problem today but the second goal in particular just didn’t look right. I know it’s in the corner but it crawls in. I don’t know if it’s footwork but he should be getting to that imo and he’s let in a couple of goals like that recently. First goal maybe a stronger hand? although maybe that’s a harsh call

 

[blackburn]

So many things to question, last week against Everton if we'd lost 2-0 he'd be under the spotlight as he could (should) have saved both.

Well past his best

 

[allpaths]

First and third goals he had no chance on and while the 2nd goal wasn't soft, you get the feeling that a title winning GK has to pull that save off to bail out his side who were clearly knackered.

 

[ralvy]

First and third goals he had no chance on and while the 2nd goal wasn't soft, you get the feeling that a title winning GK has to pull that save off to bail out his side who were clearly knackered.

No, you get that feeling. Please stop trying to talk for the rest of us.

You felt we were clearly knackered? What I saw was a team who was way too happy with a one goal lead (just like we were against Watford and away at Inter). Is not Lloris job to simply save us and perform some miracles when the rest of the team has clearly given up to the pressing of our rivals. About five minutes before their equalizer, it was like we simply stopped trying to control the ball and Pochetino showed no reaction whatsoever... I guess Lloris should have done something about that as well?

 

[allpaths]

No, you get that feeling. Please stop trying to talk for the rest of us.

You felt we were clearly knackered? What I saw was a team who was way too happy with a one goal lead (just like we were against Watford and away at Inter). Is not Lloris job to simply save us and perform some miracles when the rest of the team has clearly given up to the pressing of our rivals. About five minutes before their equalizer, it was like we simply stopped trying to control the ball and Pochetino showed no reaction whatsoever... I guess Lloris should have done something about that as well?

lol why would you think I was trying to talk for anyone other than myself. It's clear what I meant, and just because you're overprotective of Lloris doesnt mean your nitpicking validates anything.

Any side, even title and trophy winning sides in season defining moments will give up scoring opportunites, it's enivatable. No side can or should be expected to be able to control play in every single moment of every match. They sometimes need a winning goalkeeper to step up, stand tall and steal some points for them. Lloris very rarely if ever pulls off these big timely saves.

Lloris wasnt the main reason we lost, but he wasnt apart of the solution either. He could have done better.

 

[ralvy]

lol why would you think I was trying to talk for anyone other than myself. It's clear what I meant, and just because you're overprotective of Lloris doesnt mean your nitpicking validates anything.

Any side, even title and trophy winning sides in season defining moments will give up scoring opportunites, it's enivatable. No side can or should be expected to be able to control play in every single moment of every match. They sometimes need a winning goalkeeper to step up, stand tall and steal some points for them. Lloris very rarely if ever pulls off these big timely saves.

Lloris wasnt the main reason we lost, but he wasnt apart of the solution either. He could have done better.

I think you must have a very short term memory if you really agree with that bolded part. Lloris has been pulling out those sort of saves for most of his spurs career.

And I'm sorry but trophy winning sides don't simply surrend control for the last 25 minutes of season defining matches (as you seem to be calling it) like we did yesterday. The GK is supposed to be the last line of defense, not the only line of defense for fuck sake.

 

[AnotherSpursFan]

It was really highlighted last night just how important goalkeeping football ability is to our play. We do play out from the back and its mixed up with long balls played upto Kane.

Gazza is by far and away superior to Lloris in this department who is quite frankly shit and brings so many nervous moments to our back 4.

So there begs the question; when should we be looking to bring in a new number one.

IMO it should be a pressing issue for our club, not neccessarily a number one straight away but certainly a keeper that has the potential to oust Lloris and who is adept at playing with his feet.

All good things come to an end. I hope the club is on the ball with this

When you have 10 outfield players like pussies pointing at each other to take the ball, no keeper in the world is going to bring any difference. That includes Hugo Lloris, captain of Tottenham Hotspurs, and

 

[allpaths]

I think you must have a very short term memory if you really agree with that bolded part. Lloris has been pulling out those sort of saves for most of his spurs career.

And I'm sorry but trophy winning sides don't simply surrend control for the last 25 minutes of season defining matches (as you seem to be calling it) like we did yesterday. The GK is supposed to be the last line of defense, not the only line of defense for fuck sake.

i didnt say lloris isnt capable of making spectacular saves, i said he doesnt come up with clutch saves when we need him the most. That's why I didnt critisize the soft goals he conceded at Everton. They were irrelevant.

I dont expect a keeper to bail us out every game, but it's unrealistic to expect a football club to be able to dictate play all the time. They are going up against highly skilled professional on a weekly (daily) basis. Sometimes we are going to come under the kosh, it's a fact of life. Could we and should we have done better as a team against wolves, in a perfect world yes. But it'll be equally nice if we could rely upon our club captain to every so often save the day. (which he doesnt have to do that much at all.)

I watched the same wolves team play against Liverpool at the begininig of this festive period. And absolutely batter Liverpool at times in the first half. They were on top of them creating chances and forcing turnovers just like they did in our game. But Allison bailed them and came up with key stops that gave them a chance.

 

[AnotherSpursFan]

For the record I get your point and do agree with it also.

It's obvious how big an advantage it is for City to have Ederson, who can ping both short and long passes very precisely. It brings a whole other dimension to their play.

This is obviously not one of Lloris' strong points. I do think his short passing is unfairly criticized at times though. Technically he's good, but often the receiving player has no options with the ball, and ends up passing back to him.

Ederson is lucky because he is receiving great compliments from people who form their opinions of him from media, 3 minutes highlights, and created perspective via social media

 

[AnotherSpursFan]

i didnt say lloris isnt capable of making spectacular saves, i said he doesnt come up with clutch saves when we need him the most. That's why I didnt critisize the soft goals he conceded at Everton. They were irrelevant.

I dont expect a keeper to bail us out every game, but it's unrealistic to expect a football club to be able to dictate play all the time. They are going up against highly skilled professional on a weekly (daily) basis. Sometimes we are going to come under the kosh, it's a fact of life. Could we and should we have done better as a team against wolves, in a perfect world yes. But it'll be equally nice if we could rely upon our club captain to every so often save the day. (which he doesnt have to do that much at all.)

I watched the same wolves team play against Liverpool at the begininig of this festive period. And absolutely batter Liverpool at times in the first half. They were on top of them creating chances and forcing turnovers just like they did in our game. But Allison bailed them and came up with key stops that gave them a chance.

Lloris has bailed us out in clutch games vs Barca, Inter and at least 5 league games , are you a Spurs fan? Do you watch our games?

 

[allpaths]

Lloris has bailed us out in clutch games vs Barca, Inter and at least 5 league games , are you a Spurs fan? Do you watch our games?

What saves, I remember one clutch save he's made this season. The looper header from arnautovic against West Ham. That's it. I really believe spurs fans think it's still 2013/14 and we're still rather mediocre and Lloris' goal was getting peppered every game.

I could be wrong but every since we started looking serious and challenging I the soft damning goals seem a lot more prominant than the clutch saves.

 

[mike_l]

Clutch? Clutch?

Piss off you hipsters, just call them important or key for crying out loud...

 

[Kiedis]

I must be losing my mind.

 

[allpaths]

good input lads, can you please tell me why I'm wrong at least?