Player Watch: Kevin Wimmer

[Mullers]

Why would you jeopardise the key plank of our unbeaten run just to give a younger guy a game. Even against a poor side it would be entirely counter-productive.

Jeopardise? It won't be jeopardising if we've bought correctly in Wimmer. It's changing a cog in the machine with another capable one, I would expect the machine to run just as well. We need to be adaptable and to be able to compete in all competions. Just wheeling him out for cup competitions is something that will backfire eventually.

 

[Mullers]

Bullshit point, if us having a big squad hinges on the fact we do well in all competitions well then that isn't a sustainable squad and a waste of money

Personally I think Poch would move Dier to CB rather than play Wimmer and play Bentaleb/Dembele with Mason and Alli

I dont agree with Mullers, he shouldn't have played against Bournemouth but Im struggling to understand why wimmer didn't play in EL. Again its not really sustainable to have so many players if they aren't going to play in the EL. At least with the EL he could have been eased in with Toby instead of throwing him in with Fazio.

You do fear for him if he has to play for the first time in a couple of weeks against a PL team

Exactly, which is why I wanted him to play against Bournemouth. EL matches although it can be tough sometimes, it's different to the fast frenetic pace of the premiership.

 

[Shadydan]

Bullshit point, if us having a big squad hinges on the fact we do well in all competitions well then that isn't a sustainable squad and a waste of money

Personally I think Poch would move Dier to CB rather than play Wimmer and play Bentaleb/Dembele with Mason and Alli

I dont agree with Mullers, he shouldn't have played against Bournemouth but Im struggling to understand why wimmer didn't play in EL. Again its not really sustainable to have so many players if they aren't going to play in the EL. At least with the EL he could have been eased in with Toby instead of throwing him in with Fazio.

You do fear for him if he has to play for the first time in a couple of weeks against a PL team

I agree with that I think he should have played in the EL against Anderlecht but I don't see how you'd think that Poch would move Dier back to CB particularly when he's already played Wimber at CB and Dier as a DMF against Arsenal in the cup and he played well as well? There is no evidence to suggest it.

 

[spursfan77]

Bullshit point, if us having a big squad hinges on the fact we do well in all competitions well then that isn't a sustainable squad and a waste of money

Personally I think Poch would move Dier to CB rather than play Wimmer and play Bentaleb/Dembele with Mason and Alli

I dont agree with Mullers, he shouldn't have played against Bournemouth but Im struggling to understand why wimmer didn't play in EL. Again its not really sustainable to have so many players if they aren't going to play in the EL. At least with the EL he could have been eased in with Toby instead of throwing him in with Fazio.

You do fear for him if he has to play for the first time in a couple of weeks against a PL team

Have you not watched us collect players over the last decade?

 

[beats1]

I agree with that I think he should have played in the EL against Anderlecht but I don't see how you'd think that Poch would move Dier back to CB particularly when he's already played Wimber at CB and Dier as a DMF against Arsenal in the cup and he played well as well? There is no evidence to suggest it.

There is no evidence for anything, pretty much everything is guess work. However I can see Poch going for experience and putting Dier back at CB especially when you consider that Dembele did a very good job as DM

 

[neptunes]

He should be giving game time soonest possible, starting with Anderlecht game. God forbid one of our central duo gets knackered we would be in deep s**t introducing him in all of a sudden with the high tempo of the PL.

 

[Shadydan]

There is no evidence for anything, pretty much everything is guess work. However I can see Poch going for experience and putting Dier back at CB especially when you consider that Dembele did a very good job as DM

Well there is really, there is evidence which supports my argument because said evidence has already happened, where as you are 2nd guessing Poch's next move.

 

[beats1]

Well there is really, there is evidence which supports my argument because said evidence has already happened, where as you are 2nd guessing Poch's next move.

Not really, that isn't evidence, as the performance of wimmer and Fazio in the Arsenal match has meant they havent been seen again. So that isn't proof that they will make the step up from no games to first team if they were to play especially since that was over a month ago.

Nobody really knows. Doing something nearly over 6 games ago once doesn't mean he will do it again. Like we saw before instead of playing Pritchard, Onomah, Winks or Alli, he choose to play Bentaleb deep with Dier and Mason as AM

 

[Mullers]

I hope we're not going to get another Stambouli situation where it turns out that Wimmer isn't a player that Poch rates or wanted and gets sold after one season.

 

[Shadydan]

Not really, that isn't evidence, as the performance of wimmer and Fazio in the Arsenal match has meant they havent been seen again. So that isn't proof that they will make the step up from no games to first team if they were to play especially since that was over a month ago.

Nobody really knows. Doing something nearly over 6 games ago once doesn't mean he will do it again. Like we saw before instead of playing Pritchard, Onomah, Winks or Alli, he choose to play Bentaleb deep with Dier and Mason as AM

You can't lumber him in with Fazio as they are in completely different circumstances, you'd think Poch would play a defender they bought in the summer over a defender they were trying to get rid of so putting them in the same boat doesn't make sense, as I said before there is more evidence to suggest that he trust Wimmer more and will play him as opposed to putting Dier at CB as he's played more times at Centre back than Eric Dier this season, I'mm going to take the evidence presented with what has actually happened over yours and Muller's paranoia about the coach.

 

[beats1]

You can't lumber him in with Fazio as they are in completely different circumstances, you'd think Poch would play a defender they bought in the summer over a defender they were trying to get rid of so putting them in the same boat doesn't make sense, as I said before there is more evidence to suggest that he trust Wimmer more and will play him as opposed to putting Dier at CB as he's played more times at Centre back than Eric Dier this season, I'mm going to take the evidence presented with what has actually happened over yours and Muller's paranoia about the coach.

Except mine is nothing to do with Paranoia, I just think it makes more sense that manager will go with a CB experienced in the PL over a CB who hasn't really settled down yet.

Are we saying Dier is no longer a CB now?

 

[Shadydan]

Except mine is nothing to do with Paranoia, I just think it makes more sense that manager will go with a CB experienced in the PL over a CB who hasn't really settled down yet.

Are we saying Dier is no longer a CB now?

No, we're not saying that, think I don't need to repeat myself anymore so gonna leave it.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

I hope we're not going to get another Stambouli situation where it turns out that Wimmer isn't a player that Poch rates or wanted and gets sold after one season.

Don't think we are going to get that at all. We were after him in Jan as one of Mitchell's first recommendations. He is primarily back up to Vertonghen.

 

[Mullers]

Don't think we are going to get that at all. We were after him in Jan as one of Mitchell's first recommendations. He is primarily back up to Vertonghen.

I hope that's the case I don't have a problem with any of the signings since Mitchell joined. I don't know much about Wimmer but the fee was low, so it's not a massive problem if it doesn't work out.

 

[Mullers]

You can't lumber him in with Fazio as they are in completely different circumstances, you'd think Poch would play a defender they bought in the summer over a defender they were trying to get rid of so putting them in the same boat doesn't make sense, as I said before there is more evidence to suggest that he trust Wimmer more and will play him as opposed to putting Dier at CB as he's played more times at Centre back than Eric Dier this season, I'mm going to take the evidence presented with what has actually happened over yours and Muller's paranoia about the coach.

Mine has nothing to do with paranoia either, you once again bail out of a discussion when someone is challenging your views, just because you bail out it doesn't mean your view is correct. It's not like anyone is calling your names or anything, I don't see why you have to throw a strop every time.

 

[Trix]

There are certain people on here that are clearly just posting in order to create confrontation.

 

[Gbspurs]

Not everyone can play. He was bought as back up and he is only a young lad so he just needs a to keep learning in training, take the few games that come his way and be ready to step in if there are injuries.

 

[HailKingLevy]

Just an idea but what if wimmer could do Dier's job as back up as a DMF !

 

[Mullers]

There are certain people on here that are clearly just posting in order to create confrontation.

The only way not to create confrontation is not to post.
If someone posts on an internet forum surely they should know that there is every possibility that they may be confronted with an opposing view? I don't see what is wrong with that. If people don't want their views confronted an internet forum is not for them really.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

The only way not to create confrontation is not to post.
If someone posts on an internet forum surely they should know that there is every possibility that they may be confronted with an opposing view? I don't see what is wrong with that. If people don't want their views confronted an internet forum is not for them really.

There's confrontation and there's confrontation